Reply #26: Yes, my fault not quoting you verbatim

[AlGore-08.com]

However, "all Dems" involved in counting the votes, even tangentially, would have to have been involved in this conspiracy in order for it to work.

Have you ever worked an election? There are always individuals who are in charge of watching the polling stations for potential fraud, and the campaigns are constantly checking the names of the local voters rolls against the names of people who actually vote, to make sure that they've gotten all their supporters to the polls. In a national election, you end up with very large numbers of people doing this work.

And in a close election, the lawyers spend hours trying to figure out whether they have grounds to demand a recount. Kerry made a big show before the election of pointing out how many lawyers he already had, ready to contest the election. He promised on the record at a large number of events that he would not concede "too early".

In order to achieve the kind of vote fraud you're talking about, you'd have to include "all Dems" who were part of the Dem poll watching teams, "all Dems" in the local Dem headquarters who were organizing the poll watchers, "all Dems" who volunteered to work the individual polling stations, "all Dems" in the local media who failed to notice the discrepancy at the time and ignored it subsequently, but most importantly, "all Dem lawyers", who decided that there were no grounds for contesting the election.

I stand by my statement that you can't get that level of cooperation from a group of people that large, especially if they're Democrats.

Look at the 2000 election in comparison. All day long, Florida voters were calling their local Congressfolk to complain about not being allowed to vote. The NAACP was on the case almost immediately. Individual voters were in the street all day long, protesting - - including WWII vets! After the networks had called the election for Smirk, Dems on the ground in Florida were still watching the count, and seeing that it was trending Gore, and trending enough to give him a victory. They called up the chain of command until one of Gore's inner circle got the heads up that Florida was still in play. Knowing that he probably won, but not being certain, Gore still refused to concede until he was out of legal options. (And he has never stopped saying how much he disagrees with the ruling in Bush v. Gore, and has said a number of times on the record that he thinks he won Florida.)

All during the recount, the last thing there was, was solidarity on the part of the Democrats. Elected Dems organized protests for and against Gore. Alex Penalas actively worked to end the recount in Miami Dade. The freakin' chair of the Dem party got on national TV and told Gore to concede. 14 Congressmen tried to challenge the Florida electors, but not a single Senator would agree to do so.

I submit that if you couldn't get the Florida Democratic party to act as one to ignore the vote fraud in the 2000 - - which involved tens of thousands of people being denied the right to vote - - you couldn't get the Ohio Democratic party to do so either.