Reply #12: WHEN are they going to challenge more of the other dubious

[salin]

claims made - the centrifuges --- what exact language did Bush use for these? Not sure if it was SOTU - but I believe that several times he refered to these (or others did) as having NO OTHER USE but for nuclear weapons - even at the time those statements were made they were disputed by experts.

I have seen a little bit of early questioning in mainstream media about the dubious al queada tie/claims made - what was said in the SOTU and how well documented is it that this too was in no way a certainty.

They won't fall on the Uranium/Niger claim alone. It will be the PATTERN of deception and use of intelligence... especially at a time when intel was supposed to be "strengthened" due to "failures" (that they have blocked investigations into) that purportedly led to the lack of preparation/response to 911. Put all of those things together and only the most diehard supporter will still remain steadfast in their trust of the bush admin.

Folks who claim that part of the voting reasons in the next election will be based on "security" (people are still scared and angry). The strategy taken now should not just be outrage at the lies - but at the misuse of power and intel - that leads to the US being LESS SECURE. THat is the message that, in my opinion, would resonate.

Sure WE express that here - but for many folks not paying close attention to the news this is not a common sense sort of thing. Tie the stories that ARE finally making it into the public psyche and the common sense assessment that we make here, will become much more mainstream.