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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:27 AM Original message |
"massive taxpayer-funded student debt, with little hope of repayment" |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Any good small government conservative should oppose these for profit schools getting govt. loans |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Its odd.... |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Same in Southern California - prominent signs for U of Phoenix and Devry |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. They are the modern PTAs |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Phoenix is owned by the CARLYLE GROUP. Won't happen. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. I went to DeVry in Columbus. Its accredited by the same bodies that accredit Ohio State University. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. The worst part is that these loans are usually not dischargeable |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Yeah, this has always struck me as particularly insane. |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Student loans *are* dischargeable but ... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Thanks. I was unaware of the "undue hardship" provisions in the |
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EmmettKelly (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
5. As a favor to an old friend I recently interviewed a young man |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. 80K is about right for a PHD these days... His loan totals probably include undergrad also |
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ashleyforachange (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
6. That's me.... |
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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Hi Ashleyforachange, welcome to DU. You might consider consolidating |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. +1, definitely. nt |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
7. It's not just the for profit colleges. They're just the worst offenders. |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. That's right.... |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
8. My daughter, a straight-A, advanced-placement student, may not go to college because of this. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Why should student loans be any more forgivable |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Student loans are way less forgiveable than any of the types |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. I was responding to a sub-poster |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. If you are happy "with the fact that Federally-guaranteed student |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. So, would you favor raising the age |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I actually think loans should be replaced with grants (no repayment |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Would you give out grants |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Student Loans are a "bad investment" |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Living conditions |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Why not consider a design program at a state |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. I sort of agree |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Plenty of state universities have design departments |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:06 AM Response to Original message |
9. As a general policy we do not hire grads from these "schools" |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Because those "schools" aggressively advertise, and no one counter-advises... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
14. Recommend |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
18. These for-profit schools need to be regulated in a vise |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
24. A significant part of the problem can be traced to the students, parents, and society. |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Zombie? That's me! |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Correct.... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. That problem doesn't exist with students who have properly formulated career goals. |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. To some extent.... |
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forty6 (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Well, as a person with experience teaching at college and with two M.A.'s |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You had a goal. You may have changed it, but you're still fundamentally different than the zombies. |
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forty6 (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Excuse me, but I find calling college students in the USA "Zombies" rather |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. Kids would be dropping out of school all over if there were good jobs. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. +1000 |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
29. STOP PAYING. If we're ever to get control of the gov't/banking situation... |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Won't solve the problem..... |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
34. With no Statute of Limitations on the debt and the IRS as collection agency |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
35. Interesting that in my area these colleges are targeting TV ads to older students; 30-45 years old. |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
40. Might be time for a really large jobs program. Still. eom |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
48. More b.s. to make more b.s. cuts. Lies. |
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