Ron Paul: Bush administration felt ‘glee’ after 9/11

[kpete]

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Thursday that President George W. Bush’s administration was actually happy after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2011.

Speaking to about 1,000 students on the Iowa State Campus in Ames, Iowa, Paul explained that the Bush administration was eager to capitalize on the attacks.

“Think of what happened after 9/11, the minute before there was any assessment, there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq, and so the war drums beat,” Paul told their crowd, according to Politico. “That’s exactly what they’re doing now with Iran.”

“I think extremists have taken over,” the Texas Republican said, referring to neoconservatives in the government. “They’re the ones that run the foreign policy and that convinced us as a country to go along with all these wars.”

MORE:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/09/ron-paul-bush-administration-felt-glee-after-911/

[coalition_unwilling]

1. Ron Paul bashers, please note: even a broken clock is right

twice a day :)

[UrbScotty]

3. Twice a day ain't much. Other than things like this, he's not much different than most Repubs.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12/07/the-candidate-of-no-legislation-ron-paul-has-voted-against/

[coalition_unwilling]

7. No disagreement from this Dem. Socialist - n/t

[Ohio Joe]

15. I still don't feel a racist douchebag like this deserves praise of any kind

Is he right on this... Yeah... But I still say fuck that racist douchebag.

[coalition_unwilling]

26. Paul reminds me of the stereotypical 'crazy uncle' everyone tries

to keep hidden in the attic at holidays and neighborhood gatherings.

If you put a monkey at a keyboard, eventually it will type "Hamlet." Likewise, the crazy uncle Paul is bound to get one or two things right. Doesn't mean he ain't crazy though :)

[LanternWaste]

23. Unless it's a digital clock...

Unless it's a digital clock... then it simply blinks, and we're down to being right only once per day.

[krucial]

24. Paul is right

It did not take Ron Paul,or anyone else to tell me that Republicans were in glee.
They were looking for a reason for war from when Clinton was in office,and 9 11 was a God sent gift to them,they did not care how many Americans were killed and sacrificed,as long as they had their reason to go to war.
During the Bush admin,the evil Darth vader Cheney and his GOP right wing Israeli warmongering minions,were scheming,manufacturing and planning to dress up US troops as Iranian military and attack and kill our own troops,and then blame it on Iran, so we could get a legit reason to also attack Iran

[newspeak]

35. yeah, and I will never forget little boots saying more than once

how he hit the trifecta. The man is an outright sociopath--I'm sure him and Laura had a great year-not so much those who died in those attacks, nor their families. Of course, those victims, well, they're just collateral damage to "catapult" the propaganda and agenda.

[bahrbearian]

47. Yes and Paul can see It,

[bahrbearian]

46. Better than Bait and Switch

At least he is consistent

[Huey P. Long]

2. kr for truth. -eom

[woo me with science]

4. The "What If" speech:

The "What If" Speech

“Madame Speaker, I have a few questions for my colleagues. What if our foreign policy of the past century is deeply flawed and has not served our national security interests? What if we wake up one day and realize that the terrorist threat is a predictable consequence of our meddling in the affairs of others and has nothing to do with us being free and prosperous?

What if propping up oppressive regimes in the Middle East endangers both the United States and Israel? What if occupying countries like Iraq and Afghanistan and bombing Pakistan is directly related to the hatred directed toward us? What if some day it dawns on us that losing over 5,000 American military personnel in the Middle East since 9/11 is not a fair trade off for the loss of nearly 3,000 American citizens no matter how many Iraqi, Pakistani, or Afghan people are killed or displaced?

What if we finally decide that torture even if called “enhanced interrogation technique” is self destructive and produces no useful information and that contracting it out to a third world nation is just as evil?

What if it is finally realized that war and military spending is always destructive to the economy? What if all war time spending is paid for through the deceitful and evil process of inflating and borrowing? What if we finally see that war time conditions always undermine personal liberty?

What if conservatives who preach small government wake up and realize that our interventionist foreign policy provides the greatest incentive to expand the government? What if conservatives understood once again that their only logical position is to reject military intervention and managing an empire throughout the world?

What if the American people woke up and understood that the official reasons for going to war are almost always based on lies and promoted by war propaganda in order to serve special interests? What if we as a nation came to realize that the quest for empire eventually destroys all great nations? What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq? What if a military draft is being planned for, for the wars that will spread if our foreign policy is not changed?

What if the American people learn the truth that our foreign policy has nothing to do with national security and that it never changes from one administration to the next? What if war and preparation for war is a racket serving the special interests? What if president Obama is completely wrong about Afghanistan and it turns out worse than Iraq and Vietnam - put together? What if Christianity actually teaches peace and not preventive wars of aggression? What if diplomacy is found to be superior to bombs and bribes in protecting America?

What happens if my concerns are completely unfounded? Nothing. But what happens if my concerns are justified and ignored? Nothing good.”

And I yield back the balance of my time.”


This was spoken by Ron Paul in front of the House of Representatives in February 2009. Why is it that the only politician we hear speaking these truths is an extreme libertarian who would also rip away our safety nets and abolish critical government functions and safeguards?

Where is our DEMOCRATIC candidate saying these things?

The only way things will change is to get the money out of politics. We must take back our party from the corporate interests who have purchased it.

Support OWS

[coalition_unwilling]

9. Kucinich and Barbara Lee would probably agree with Paul - n/t

[UTUSN]

5. K&R #2. Broken clock/etc. He said the same in '04 debates and the

"serious" candidates scoffed and sneered.

[Maccagirl]

6. For once I agree with him.

Too bad the Dems don't have the kahunas to state the obvious. What kind of blowback will they get if they speak the truth?

[redqueen]

16. They'll be 'Gored' by the M$M.

And they all know it. The same will happen to Paul if he doesn't fizzle out like most early fringey candidates who start off well but don't toe the establishment line.

[Pirate Smile]

8. I think that is bogus. Everyone was horrified. Groups of people were flinging themselves off 100+

story buildings.

I certainly think they used it to invade Iraq and I was against that from the very beginning - but, yeah, it is pretty despicable to say the Bush Administration felt "glee" when we were attacked. That is the same as some of the truly outrageous things they say about President Obama wanting to bring down the US.

[Huey P. Long]

11. "We hit the trifecta'.

[SammyWinstonJack]

28. That is what first came to mind when I read this, bush saying

"We hit the trifecta" Sounds like glee to me. :shrug:

[coalition_unwilling]

12. Sociopaths like Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, et. al. by

definition are incapable of feeling empathy or feeling 'horrified'. They view all of us 99%ers as mere pawns in their global game of chess. But our individual lives mean absolutely nothing to them.

[WilliamPitt]

17. *sigh*

How the memories have faded.

"We have to counteract the shockwave of the evil-doer by accelerating individual tax cuts and thinking about tax rebates."

- GWB, 10/04/2001

Sound horrified to you?

[woo me with science]

36. Thank you. nt

[mod mom]

27. What about the PNAC "new Pearl Harbor" wish?

I hope Paul runs as a libertarian.

[Enthusiast]

30. They felt glee.

The Bush Administration could hardly contain themselves. It was all too obvious.

[newspeak]

40. so, you didn't hear the "heh, heh" I hit the trifecta?

Or the statement about laura and I had a good year? Or looking around a desk for wmds while our soldiers and the iraqi people have been maimed and killed?

[earthside]

10. Insane Repuglicans.

I disagree with about 70 percent of what Ron Paul proposes.

I am not inclined towards his brand of Rand libertarianism.

But Paul's principles sometimes put him on the correct side of the truth; and he is practical enough to make common cause once in awhile with people (Kucinich) on the other side of the aisle (in other words he comes across as civil as opposed to the fanaticism of the rest of the Teabagger Repuglicans).

However, it just shows you how insane the rest of the Repuglican Party has become when they prefer a nut-job sleaze like Gingrich over a principled guy like Ron Paul.

Ron Paul has appeal because he does seem to base a lot of his positions on issues based upon some philosophical principles, whereas all the rest of the Repuglican candidates are just typical, expedient, corporately-owned politicians. So, even though I ardently oppose his ludicrous ideas to eliminate the Dept. of Interior, for instance, at least he purports to have a principled reason for his proposal.

So, I suppose we should be glad that the Repuglicans are headed towards Gingrich or Romney, because if they did go with Ron Paul it could signal a game-changing philosophical realignment of the GOP.

[ensho]

13. he is right - they were so gleeful they could hardly contain a straight

face. at the time I commented on it numerous times.

the bushgang/neocons did the dirty deed. murders one and all.

[Poll_Blind]

14. They did, Paul was right about that. But that agreement doesn't excuse or condone Paul's...

...preferences on other topics, which are (put kindly) evil.

PB

[Fly by night]

18. Of course, they were. That was one PNAC-predicted "Mission" that was actually "Accomplished".

And no amount of sarcasm will ever convince me otherwise.

[Huey P. Long]

20. you are correct. -eom

[Fire Walk With Me]

19. He's right, but then again, -we've- been saying this for years.

[Fumesucker]

21. Can you even imagine a Democratic candidate for POTUS saying this?

I sure can't.

[RZM]

45. You probably wouldn't hear it. Except maybe from Kucinich

But one reason you're not likely to hear it from Democrats is that many of them probably don't believe it to be true. It's probably not a widespread opinion outside of places like DU and the Ron Pauliverse.

The belief that some influential neocons were itching to get rid of Saddam is common knowledge. But Bush himself being glad that 9/11 happened from the very beginning? I'm not so sure.

9/11 very much transformed the Bush presidency and pushed his policies in directions that he hadn't planned. I also wonder if at the very beginning he worried that the country would turn on him and blame him for what happened.

In the end I think it did help his political career and quite possibly made the difference between being a one or two termer. But at the moment of the attacks I think Bush was probably filled with fear, remorse, and anxiety about the future.

[JaneQPublic]

22. Wow. If a Dem had said that...

...James Carville would be sticking a trashcan on his head.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

25. Why Do You Think Bush Allowed It To Happen?

Of course they were gleeful. Just that shot of Bush pumping his fist minutes before going on TV to tell the American public what was going on should have made that clear.

I will go to my grave knowing one thing: if Al Gore had been President, 9/11 would never have happened.

[Enthusiast]

31. And that is why Gore was never allowed

to take the office of President that he fairly won in the election.

Remember, Gore even proposed strengthening airline cockpit doors well before 9/11. I remember hearing Limbaugh poo pooing the idea because it would have cost $300 per air liner door. Of course Limbaugh was against anything proposed by Democrats. Limbaugh's attitude toward Democratic proposals now extends to the entire Republican Party. Is this a great country or what!

[Enthusiast]

29. He is exactly right on this one.

Too bad he's such a loon on other issues.

[gratuitous]

33. Which is why he's allowed to say it

And the popular media, if they notice he said it at all, will dismiss it out of hand as just more loony rantings from Ron Paul. My guess is they won't deign to notice it. Though I was a tad surprised to see a teaser this morning for one of the Sunday talk shows (Meet the Press?) that they were going to have Paul on. If the interviewer is prepared (big motherfuckin' IF there), he can make Paul look like the nincompoop he is. If the interviewer isn't prepared, Paul will tie him in knots with wrong ideas couched in pleasing, earnest phrases.

[Solly Mack]

37. Yep

[fascisthunter]

32. of course they did... they are sociopaths who see opportunity in tragedy

it is how their sick brains are wired.

[City Lights]

34. I agree with Paul on this one.

Junior used 9-11 as a free pass to do whatever the fuck he wanted to do.

[indepat]

38. The glee seemed so robust to this bunny, it should have been virtually audible

even to the deaf. :patriot:

[Prometheus Bound]

39. Well, duh!

[JuniperLea]

41. Like the devil hisownself...

Will mix truth with lies just to keep you off balance.

[ecstatic]

42. That might get him votes from DU, but I don't think that will help

him with the tea party. I could be wrong, lol.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

43. 911 was the greatest day in Bush's political life

It doesn't take political brilliance to see that truth. I agree with Paul on our various wars and foreign policy. I just as strongly disagree on his positions on medicare, social security and a host of other social issues. He's better than the other wing nuts by one issue.

[sarcasmo]

44. Kick!

[stuntcat]

48. I've known this all along. But did anyone care when *I said it? no

No one in the world benefited as much from 9/11 as the Bush administration. This was obvious from day one.

Oh but now the world is figuring it out and giving Ron Paul credit for it!! That's Humanity :) yep.