The greatest evil in our world today is CORPORATISM. If greedy Big Oil had not gone into the

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Middle East nations, and under one pretext or another rob them of their oil over the
past 60+ years, 9/11 would never have happened. And all the mildly unpleasant as
well as the deadly consequences resulting from 9/11 would never have happened either
-- from the long waits and humiliating inconvience of being strip-searched at airports,
to the incredible horrors of the Middle-East wars.

As Shakespeare had said: "The evil that men do, long liveth after them."
And corporatists aren't through with their evil ways yet -- not by a long shot. This
is what happens when too many sociopaths are holding high positions, both in private
industry as well as in government.

When will we begin to understand that the more sociopaths we elect to high office,
the more misery they will bring down upon all of us? Sociopaths ARE the biggest part
of THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS.

Both APAs (American Psychological Ass'n and American Psychiatric Ass'n) refrain from
making any official statements on this subject, because it's their policy to not
involve themselves in politics. But, just google "Bush and Sociopathy," or "NeoConservatism
and Sociopathy." There are hundreds of thousands of articles, many of them by prominent
professional mental health workers, expressing their opinions of the grave outcomes that
can be expected from this situation.

Good luck to all of us.

[jody]

1. Please repeat the pledge below:

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2. How awful, yet how true!!

[wundermaus]

3. The Lightbulb Conspiracy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1xt4nEvipg

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10. The first part of your message made me think that you might be interested in

spirituality, and the second part that you might be a great fan of the occupiers. :)

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[stellanoir]

7. The Aramaic root for "evil" is unripe.

I'll post about what my perspective on that on edit.

For now just perhaps consider that "evil" is "LIVE" backwards.

Beyond that. . .

Until enough of humanity is able to accept that

to be human is to embrace the reality that within each and every one of us

is a miraculous blend of attributes and frailties,

and we learn to honor that truth,

by simply learning to share fairly,

like terrifically two year olds,

we will fail to recognize that whenever one of us suffers,

we are all diminished.

Corporations are not people.

They don't have a singular beating heart.

And are just plain heartless.

They aren't one with the whole.

And inequality will not wane.

But guess what. . .?

Enough people are getting it with each and every passing day.

Things will get increasingly revelatory for those who pay attention.

And shit, even that pustule of an alleged human being Frank Luntz is scared.

Hooray

on edit-The Aramaic root of the word "evil" means "unripe."

That suggests something that requires more sunlight (aka consciousness), nourishment, water (aka emotional support), and time (patience), though I've heard no one else elucidate it as such, yet most metaphysicians don't live on farms. That perspective sure beats all the tiresomely unenlightened dualistic shadow projections that are bandied about these days.

[Enthusiast]

23. Nice

[Grateful for Hope]

8. K&R

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[bhikkhu]

11. What the heck is a corporatist?

I would think, looking at the simple root of the word, that it is any group of people working together. I asume you mean something else, but without defining what you mean its all dog-whistle to me.

[stellanoir]

12. Perhaps they are people who believe that

corporations have the same inherent rights as human beings and are deluded enough to believe that they are not thoroughly expendable

Over time.

consider seeing my post upthread

[jody]

13. Benito Mussolini supposedly adopted the following quote as his own "Fascism should more

appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power."

Mussolini was made a honorary member of the American Legion which was organized by business leaders in 1919.

Of course one should always consider wikipedia Corporatism

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21. Some people credit Mussolini with having been the first Fascist, that he

founded Fascism. Right-wingers are doing what Mussolini was doing, only they
avoid using the word Fascism. It's part of their attempt at fooling the masses.

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17. I am referring to someone who strongly believes in, advocates and wouldn't hesitate

to use unfair and deceitful means to advance his company, and especially to advance himself.
The corporatist tries to align his company with and enlist the aid (often through dishonest
means) of the government.

There are many people working in corporations who do not behave as described above. They,
to me, are not corporatists.

[Enthusiast]

24. Good answer.......nt

[BOG PERSON]

14. what good does it do to locate the problems of the world in psychology,

on a relative minority of people with bad minds, whom nobody can do anything about? the problems lie with the institutions those individuals work for. because, as we all know, institutions are stronger than individuals.

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19. Aaaahh! But the Occupiers think differently, and are doing something about this mess. And I am

for the Occupiers.

[Initech]

15. Actually the greatest evil in this world is GREED, corporatism is a by-product.

[BOG PERSON]

16. WRONG -- the greatest evil in the world is the SINFUL NATURE of MAN

which can be changed only by THE POWER of THE SPIRIT of GOD

[Initech]

18. Ok I can live with that one.

[Zorra]

27. OK. Corporatism is the ultimate manifestation of the sinful nature of man.

And so, God, distressed at this growing evil that had spread to the four corners of the earth, created OWS, and said through spirit, "Go forth, and Occupy".

"When the Power of Love overcomes the love Of power, The World Will Know Peace"
Jimi Hendrix

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29. Roughly 4% of the general population have this anti-social personality disorder (sociopathy). The

theory of the cause of sociopathy is that both genetics and environment play a role
in bringing it about.

As for treatment of the problem, sociopaths never go for therapy voluntarily. They
think they are the only ones who are right, and all the others are wrong. A few
are sent to therapists for counseling by the court as part of their sentence. And
as soon as the time specified by the court has been met, sociopaths never see their
counselors again. They cannot change their ways.

Genetics offers hope. Some day the genes for sociopathic traits might be isolated
and altered, so that no more sociopaths will be born. This will be an incredibly
difficult undertaking. Just think of all the screening, testing and willingness and
cooperation on the part of the people involved!

But don't all couples want their children to be intelligent, good looking, tall,
healthy both physically and mentally...etc...? Some day, all these qualities that
parents desire for their offspring can be met. They can be made to order. Can you
imagine such an ideal future world? There still will be enough differences among the
offspring, because different parents have some difference in tastes :)

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20. And this greed has to be put into action by human beings before it can do any harm.

[blindpig]

22. Chicken or egg?

Greed is a human behavior trait which has always been with us. It is I think an infantile disorder. In many societies there have been social conventions which hold it in check, at least to some degree. However, in capitalist society this trait is rewarded, encouraged, even lionized.

I don't think there is much to be done about a trait of this nature other than that method of time immemorial, ostrazation. However, we might do something about a system of social organization which enables and hands the levers of power to such afflicted individuals.

[Enthusiast]

25. k&r NT

[Cal33]

26. Muchas gracias!

[socialist_n_TN]

28. I HATE beating around the bush about it.........

corporatism is just a synonym for capitalism. And capitalism is just a synonym for greed. Capitalism is a system that ENCOURAGES greed and which leads to fascism.

Call a spade a shovel. Not a rake.

[Cal33]

30. There are any numbers of businessmen who are decent people and antifascist. I find

it unfair to put them all in the same category. Why not reserve a separate
word, corporatist, for the crooked ones who are really fascists?