Bill Clinton is now a WHAT??!!??

[Archae]

According to ABC news, Bill Clinton is now a vegan!

Another sucker for vegan propaganda.

[AtomicKitten]

1. He could use the heart-healthy diet of a vegan.

[Archae]

3. That's just it, pure vegan, is NOT "heart-healthy."

It's one thing to cut down on animal products, but those cutting them out completely belong to a cult.

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[Fearless]

9. Ohh.. comeback of the evening! +1!

[calimary]

73. Guess we'll never know...

[handmade34]

7. silly!

many, many of us are vegan or almost so... very healthy for most... key is to know your body and understand its needs

[peacetalksforall]

28. Since you didn't make a case to persuade anyone, I'll just call it your opinion.

Many of us hold the opposite opinion, maybe not pure vegan and maybe he didn't go the pure route, either. Not everyone knows the meanding of vegan, but use the word for everyone.

[flvegan]

37. Really? Back that up. Bet you can't.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. I might not like it, but Dr. Ornish has very good results

with patients with a similar history to Bill Clinton. You might want to read on his research. Cult it is not.

[JanMichael]

53. a cult! Why get me some smellin' salts....because the drama

expressed in your post is giving me the vapors.

[WinkyDink]

57. Let me know after you've had the heart problems erstwhile-omnivore Bill has had.

[LaurenG]

72. Yes its heart healthy. There are too many studies that will tell you otherwise.

Both of my parents died of heart disease and were on all kinds of meds by my age. The rest of the non vegan siblings are all on htn meds. I have a calcium score of 0 and on no meds at all and I am vegan.

[elleng]

2. Been that way for a while, maybe over a year, daughter Chelsea's wedding.

She encouraged it.

[Nye Bevan]

25. If my daughter encouraged me to go vegan

I would not be quite as receptive.

[LeftyMom]

26. That's nice.

[Nye Bevan]

29. Not really. But I'd rather be a carnivore than be "nice". (nt)

[demwing]

34. Wow. That's a swell opinion.

bro

[Nye Bevan]

38. Everything in moderation.

:D :thumbsup:

[demwing]

47. Sorry

should have used the sarcasm tag

[Nye Bevan]

59. Apology accepted (nt)

[demwing]

68. Cool!

:sarcasm:

[Nye Bevan]

75. .

:yourock:

[LeftyMom]

4. One of us. One of us.

Chelsea probably recruited him. I'll ask her at the next meeting.

[Major Hogwash]

5. Just making up for devouring 2500 cows and 11,000 chickens during his life.

"This looks good, what is it?"
"It's what's left after we make pig's knuckles, Mr President."
"Oh, well, pour some gravy over it and I'll try a plate."

[csziggy]

6. He'll apparently be on Sanjay Gupta's special on CNN

I think the name is "The Last Heart Attack" and seems to feature a no fat, low or no meat diet. I've only caught a couple of pseudo news advertisements for it and wasn't paying much attention, so I don't know the details or when it will be aired.

[brewens]

8. I thought he was a vagitarian! n/t

[Whisp]

15. *chortles

[TK421]

21. ah no! you DIDN'T go there!!! did you?

[roomfullofmirrors]

10. when does he get his vegan superpowers?

[Recovered Repug]

13. Has he graduated from the Vegan Academy? nt.

[TwilightGardener]

11. Hope it helps his cardiovascular situation.

[Fearless]

12. Good for him, I hope he lives long and healthy!

[Lucinda]

14. Saw him in an interview about it. He says he feels great

and wants to live long enough to play with his(eventual)grand children. More power to him. His body his choice.

[TK421]

23. it's good...he had more chins than a Hong Kong phonebook n/t

[JI7]

16. i remember reading about him picking up some burgers and fries

[richmwill]

17. I'm sure I could tempt him into having a burger... (n/t)

[handmade34]

19. probably not... being healthy tastes so much

better than a burger...

[Kurovski]

18. Dang

Not a homosexual unable to legally marry his beloved?

[Nye Bevan]

20. There's no way he's not craving steaks.

Clinton is just not a tofurkey type of guy.

He may not live longer, but it will seem like it.

[demwing]

35. (Excuse me.....you're projecting again....)

[MagickMuffin]

22. So, What's your beef?

Since when did you become his guardian :shrug:

[Bluenorthwest]

24. Bill is the very first good advocate vegan diets have ever had

because he speaks of it as a diet not as a philosophy, and without all the 'your mother was a murderer and your culture is a holocaust' right to life style hyperbole that is usually served up along with the vegan lunch. He will do more to promote that way of eating than all of the wildly aggressive language in the world. I hope the movement takes a lesson.

[LetTimmySmoke]

27. Before I clicked the thread, I thought it was going to be "Republican"

[Warpy]

30. ABC has no frigging clue what the word means, apparently

since Clinton also admits to eating egg whites and fish.

I'm just glad the guy is taking care of himself. He's obviously looked at Cheney and wants to avoid that fate at all costs.

Bye bye greaseburgers.

[LeftyMom]

31. Are you looking at articles from last year by chance?

At that time he was describing his diet as being mostly vegan, but with occasional fish. The recent articles I've seen all say that he's now totally vegan. "The former president now says he consumes no meat, no dairy, no eggs, almost no oil.
'I like the vegetables, the fruits, the beans, the stuff I eat now,' Clinton told Gupta."

[flvegan]

39. Nazi.

Just stop it. Let them think what they want. Jesus.

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[pinboy3niner]

33. OMG, it's worse than we thought!1!!

I knew he changed parties, but that's old news. He became a Sexagenarian five years ago (and who didn't see that one coming?).

I don't know what a Vegan Sexagenarian is, but it doesn't sound good at all!1!!

Some say not to worry, just give him a few years--they wouldn't be surprised if he even switches affiliation again and becomes a Septuagenarian! (Some say it might even have something to do with his becoming a Vegan--as if that's even a real political party!).

Whichever party he joins, I hope he enjoys it in good health! :toast:

[flvegan]

36. Vegan propaganda. Your words. Back them up.

OR shut up.

[rug]

66. Here, put this on your shirt.

http://ih3.redbubble.net/work.7196489.2.flat,550x550,075,f.choose-vegan-propaganda-poster.jpg

When I find a matching cape i'll send it to you.

[Starry Messenger]

41. I too was almost seduced by the wiles of Big Vegetable©

:cries:

I eat meat and don't understand your outrage. Is there a rule that former Presidents are required to eat living flesh or something? I think that ended with Reagan.

[flvegan]

42. This should actually be locked.

Not that it will be, but:

"It's one thing to cut down on animal products, but those cutting them out completely belong to a cult." is an attack on not only other DUers but on health and science itself. Matter of fact, you'd have to be an absolute fucking idiot to have made the statement I responded to.

No, really.

[Liquorice]

43. I always thought Bill was too intelligent NOT to be a vegan. I'm glad

he finally saw the light and made the change to a plant-based diet. He will live a long healthy life because of it.

You sound very misinformed about nutrition, or maybe your brain is just addled from years of eating a very high fat, meat-based diet? :shrug:

[flvegan]

44. Do you, as a furry or "feathersona" feel vegans

work against your online advancement? I'm curious, considering.

[Raine]

45. GOOD for him! I'm just a mere vegetarian but

I have to admire him for being able to go all the way! :applause:

edit: typo

[yewberry]

46. Oh no! That 'scientifically proven to reduce heart damage' lobby

must have warped his mind!

Those poor, under-funded, unsubsidized meat and dairy campaigns to save his life have failed! Only 74% of government subsidies are spent on

Got Milk?
Pork: the Other White Meat
Beef: It's What's for Dinner
The Incredible Edible Egg


Damn that vegetable lobby! Damn them to Hell!

[MN TN]

48. Becoming a vegan is about the best thing you can do for the planet

According to Paul McCartney

[malaise]

49. Saw that on ABC last night

Good for him

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[watercolors]

51. America needs to have more Vegans!!! So healthy for you.

[Kablooie]

52. Wow. Vegas mist be getting crowded.

[JanMichael]

54. so what?

I personally didn't wake up this morning worried about what the man ate for breakfast?

[fujiyama]

55. I'm mostly vegetarian

I do like some chicken and seafood occassionally. I don't see why people make such a big deal about other people's diets. I also don't understand why it's controversial or offensive to state that this country's dietary habits are not particularly healthy, and that this country consumes way too much meat and dairy in general, and red meat and cheese in particular...and not enough healthy vegetables (and potatoes don't count).

One thing to keep in mind - there's a greater knowledge of different ethnic recipes in this country than there was in the past. And when looking at different ethnic foods, you realize that meat and cheese doesn't necessarily have to be part of EVERY meal. There's a lot of tasty ways to prepare meals without animal products, while still maintaining adequete protein requirements. And with the US being more diverse than in the past, it's easier to get hold of various spices and condiments, ensuring that vegan and vegetarian meals need not be bland or un-appetizing.

[Ilsa]

56. Uh, maybe he feels better, has more energy, has better labwork, etc on a vegan diet. nt

[Zorra]

58. How horrible! He's also a sucker for anti-tobacco propaganda.

He doesn't smoke!

[BiggJawn]

60. Is he really Vegan, or just a Vegitarian?

You know how much our MSM fucks-up even the simplest story...

[frogmarch]

61. Shame on him

for waging an all-out war against the cattle industry, oh, and maybe also the poultry industry! :sarcasm:

[BiggJawn]

63. Maybe the cattle industry will sue him like they did Oprah. n/t

[Dappleganger]

62. It is his heart and health, not yours.

The only sucker is someone who doesn't believe in personal choice.

[Odin2005]

64. I believe his doctor ordered him to do that for health reasons.

[CleanGreenFuture]

65. Werer humans vegetarians for the first 10,000,000 years of our evolution?

I know we're omnivores, but was meat bad for ancient humans too, or just modern humans?

[Odin2005]

67. Of course not, but even hunter-gatherers eat less meat than we do.

Most food they ate were fruits and veggies collected by the women, supplemented by small game. The big feasts of large game were the stone-age equivalent of the big Sunday dinner.

[Scruffy1]

69. So was LBJ.

He quit eating meat and smoking after his first heart attack.

[LaurenG]

70. Propaganda? Are you now or have you ever been a vegan? nt

[slackmaster]

71. He may be a vegan, but he's still made out of meat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaFZTAOb7IE

[jmowreader]

74. I'd call him a vegetarian rather than a vegan

Vegetarian: a person who eats no animal-derived foods. (They've got lesser degrees of vegetarianism, such as lacto or lacto-ovo, where it's okay to eat the food if no animal died to make it.)

Vegan: a person who uses no animal products at all in any way, shape or form, including wearing animal-derived clothing. The real serious vegans go out of their way to advertise that they are--bumper stickers, t-shirts, blasting The Smiths' "Meat Is Murder" at stoplights and so on. (And the REALLY REALLY serious vegans break into the cooler at the Iowa State Fair and put anti-dairy signage on the butter cow.)

I SERIOUSLY can't see Bill Clinton in canvas shoes or pleather.

[pipi_k]

76. If it makes him feel better, then what is the problem?

I mean, it's not like he's coming to your house forcing broccoli and brussels sprouts down your throat.