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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 10:57 PM Original message |
I go through TSA on a regular basis for work. |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Do you regulary have to go through the "porno-scanner"? |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I leave from BNA, which uses the LH3 machine |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
87. I went through two weeks ago... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
93. WTF with calling it a "porno-scanner"? People are fine with tweeting ones erect penis, |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Because some people resort to inflammatory... |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. 150 flight experiences out of hundreds of millions per year isn't maybe the most rock-solid |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Granted, no. But the problem obviously is not as widespread |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Wait, where do you get "obviously"? |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. If you flew as much as I did, it would be obvious. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. Translation: I've never had any trouble, so there's no problem. nt |
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KarenS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. +1 n/t |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Translation, I kept hearing about "other people's problems" |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. My personal experience is that many TSA agents are polite and many are rude. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. ok, so HOW is it Irrelevant? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. It is irrelevant because it is not the good outcomes of these encounters |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. BUT, the "bad" outcome is not always as it is presented. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Again, the issue of whether this woman needed to change her grandma's diapers more frequently is... |
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Dept of Beer (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:41 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. If you have ever had to change anybody's diapers, a child's or a parent's, |
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personman (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Checking old people's diapers makes us safer...think otherwise & you're a lunatic. nt |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
86. "Once every six months or so we see some claim of impropriety." |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. How did the poster... |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
64. B-I-N-G-O |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. "stupid travelers" ? |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. I guess that means any traveler who holds him up for more than a sec. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Your "guess" would be wrong. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Well, let me share one experience |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. You used that phrase in a specific way in your OP |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:18 AM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Yes, there usually are 2 lines for the "expert traveler" and the "casual |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:06 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. So, you equate "casual" with "stupid" |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
71. No, but I equate heading toward a metal detector wearing a ton of jewelry as "stupid" |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I used to wear belt buckles, necklaces, my good watch, etc. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. And those things had to come off pre-9/11 too |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #73 |
91. What? |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #19 |
40. I used to fy all the time but haven't recently. The dimwit that packed a boxcutter in hi carryon |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
96. most ridiculous part of their 'allowed' section |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'm sure you need no warning that anything that contradicts the party line will be ridiculed. nt |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. What is your personal experience? Please share. nt |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. Even as innocuous as you make this sound, |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. So you think the Bush Administration would punish dissenters... |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. That wasn't my point. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
43. I agree, but sometimes you have to choose your fights. |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. You really think it is that political, and you also don't have a problem with that? |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
8. This is a continuation of another thread? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. Oh. Well, that's alright then. Glad you cleared that up. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. I'm just saying, don't be so quick to judge. nt |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Heaven forfend that I ever judge you. Please do carry on. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Well, I am sorry if I interpreted your response as "sarcasm" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
13. My SIL doesn't travel regularly. But she flew to NY |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. OK, this just reeks of BS. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #26 |
51. I have stopped flying. Many people have stopped flying. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
82. "many and increasing reports from passengers across the country" |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
74. Not everyone enjoys having their personal "junk" viewed by complete strangers |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. Why would she have been shocked? That they use scanners |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
18. Oh, and btw, it was much safer to travel when Bush was president. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Since 2007 pre-Obama. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Not in my experience. Under Bush I always had to undergo |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:33 AM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Under Bush you didn't have to go through Naked Scanners or 'Enhanced Pat-downs' |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Like Bush, you seem to have forgotten he was President for 9/11. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. It was safer from molestation by Government Agents for innocent |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Unfortunately, Obama will never be able to rollback the post 9/11 |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Under Clinton several major attacks were prevented without |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:13 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. The scanners were introduced in 2007 when the shrub was President. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. You forgot to mention that only a few were installed in |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
80. Clinton did allow the intelligence community (or perhaps made them) to do their job. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
23. I was over once for something absolutely trivial. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. well, if you read the PSA's that are staring at you while you are in line |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
33. I flew for my vacation a few months ago |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
37. but your threshold is too high --basically you have no problem if they follow their own rules |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
39. I've had only positive or neutral experiences, too, though I don't fly as frequently as you. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
55. It depends on the airport |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
57. Next you'll be saying that you aren't hungry & know no one that is... |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
59. Same lame shit said by white guys about DWB. no cop ever treats them that way |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. It is pure politics with this one, he all but said this happy horseshit would have been a problem |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
89. ^^^ This. |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
60. cool. there must be no problem. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:57 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. How well you are treated is not the issue... |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
63. Do you wear a diaper? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #63 |
76. I don't know about him.... |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
65. Mussolini: he makes the planes run on time. |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
66. I agree about the TSA BS...I fly 2-3 per week.. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
67. 75,000 miles the last 6 months... |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I've never taken liquids out or used those silly bags either.. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. I find the smaller airports are the ones who are sticklers. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
69. WOW, I guess police never mistreat people either because they have been nice to me? LOL |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
70. Pavlov's dog... |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
75. And I call BS on your BS. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Why |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #78 |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
81. As someone wisely said above and I'll repeat. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
83. The operative word in your entire post is "I" |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. "Hundreds and thousands of reports of TSA outrage" |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
85. they're not all professional |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
92. Guess what L-3 used to do before they made the Nudoscope |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
94. "expert traveler line" ??? |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Sadly, yes. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. The line moves faster because "expert" travelers |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. And what would that be? Bend over and cough? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
99. Mr. "See No Evil" vs. 6 egregious examples to the contrary: |
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