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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:55 AM
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Bayh's BS statement

Bayh claims excessive partisanship motivated retirement

by Jed Lewison

In a statement, Evan Bayh claims he is retiring because excessive partisanship has brought the U.S. Senate to a standstill:

"Two weeks ago, the Senate voted down a bipartisan commission to deal with one of the greatest threats facing our nation: our exploding deficits and debt. The measure would have passed, but seven members who had endorsed the idea instead voted ‘no’ for short-term political reasons," he said. "Just last week, a major piece of legislation to create jobs — the public’s top priority — fell apart amid complaints from both the left and right. All of this and much more has led me to believe that there are better ways to serve my fellow citizens, my beloved state and our nation than continued service in Congress."

The one thing we know is that statement is total bullshit. If Evan Bayh were in the least concerned about legislative gridlock, he'd have been fighting to get rid of the filibuster instead of using it at every opportunity to slow down or scuttle Democratic initiatives.



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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:00 PM
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1. Yeah thanks to him and the conservadems!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:03 PM
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2. So you just QUIT, Evan?
You spineless little worm.
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democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:14 PM
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3. I'm glad that he's gone, I'm not a fan
But I'm also fairly certain that this is an orchestrated succession plan. He's clearly collaborated with the state party to get out at the last minute, giving them the power to draft the best possible candidate rather than risk a crazy open primary. That candidate is almost certain to be a sitting Congressman--either Baron Hill or Brad Ellsworth, both of whom are actively campaigning for re-election to their respective seats.

This way, they simply move into a new slot, with the state party again choosing who runs for the abandoned Congressional seat.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:29 PM
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6. He's been a traitor to the party for years. He just quit and threw a big fuck you to the Dems.
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 12:30 PM by JTFrog
Tomorrow is the last day that a candidate can start collecting signatures for a Senate race. By Friday, that candidate needs to have 500 valid signatures in all nine of Indiana’s congressional districts.

I'm sure they'll get someone in... but what a fucked up way to leave the party hanging.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:41 PM
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29. That is a BIG FU! Your post is alarming! Can the state Dems recover from this?
Might he have told the state party early enough that he may not run again so that they be prepared?

It would be nice to think he held off announcing his decision until a near deadline to throw off the state's Republican party. But I'm not holding my breath.

Were there any Dems working to primary him?

If not, how are the state Dems going to recover?

I just logged on to DU & am not up to date on what's really going on - but your post is alarming to me.

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:18 PM
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19. He's not running for re-election
He'll finish his term
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:14 PM
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4. When did Sarah Palin become his speech writer?
:shrug:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:26 PM
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5. Spineless DINO
good Bayh, good riddance.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:39 PM
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7. Bayh pulled a Palin.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:15 PM
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17. No, he's finishing his term
and not running again. He's not resigning now.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:43 PM
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8. Although his timing screws Dems, I'm glad he'll finally be somebody else's big bag of useless. nt
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:55 PM
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12. Exactly. We have 4 days to find a candidate.
Bayh's decision will set Dems scrambling for a replacement. The deadline to file to reach the ballot is Friday, meaning any Dem considering running for the seat must make a decision quickly.

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/02/bayh_to_retire.php

He was an asshole right to the end.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:26 PM
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15. The actual deadline is TOMORROW at noon!
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:28 PM
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27. No, the party can pick a candidate after that
If nobody qualifies by Friday.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:31 PM
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44. Has Bayh already filed?
I know in NJ, when Torecelli was pushed not to run, well after the primary even - the Democratic party was allowed to replace him with Lautenberg. For different reasons, candiates who have died have been replaced.

This timing just does not jibe with Bayh's reasons.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:46 PM
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9. He's compalining about the Estate tax fix
That's the criticism "from the left" he's describing.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:48 PM
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10. He wasn't a Democrat, anyway. We're better off with a Repuke. n/t
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:17 PM
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18. You do realize that committees are controlled
by the party in charge and what legislation gets to the floor?
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:39 PM
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22. Of course I do. I know all about governance and am a political scientist by trade.
However, what good is it if Bayh was actually contributing to the problem? He voted with the Repukes throughout his entire Senate career.

Don't be naive, please. The Democrats never really controlled the Senate. With a number of Blue Dog Democrats and DLCers who tended to vote with the Republicans, not to mention the likes of Joe LIEberman, we never really had power. The obsession with bipartisanship, coupled with the lack of leadership from Harry Reid, made things worse and impossible to govern.

Please don't lecture me about these things, sweetie. You have no idea who you're dealing with.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:47 PM
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23. Sweetie?!?
You're patronizing me while you use silly, juvenile constructions like "LIEberman"?

Don't worry. I won't bother with you again.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:53 PM
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25. Yeah, don't bother me again, SWEETIE!!!
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:43 PM
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30. Wow. You're being rather patronizing and pissy, arntcha?
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:04 PM
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32. No, I am not. This person attacked me and was patronizing towards me.
I am fighting back because I'm tired of it on DU.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:26 PM
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37. Attacked you?
The poster merely asked if you were AWARE of something.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:39 PM
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39. If that was an attack, I'm the rightful Czar of all the Russias.
And your response WAS pissy and patronizing.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:28 PM
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43. ATTACKED YOU!? Rigoddamdiculous.
Hogwash. In fact, I call shenanigans.

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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:00 PM
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49. You call what she wrote an attack?
And she was patronizing, and the bad guy here? Really? Did you follow what transpired? Because it seems to me that the only way that could be true is if your name was Prolesunited instead of hers.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:44 PM
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51. I don't consider LIEberman a
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 06:45 PM by Enthusiast
juvenile construction. It perfectly illustrates the turn coat and dishonest nature of LIEberman. Hundreds of us use it and every chance we get. So lighten up Francis. Or is that Sweetie?

Sometimes it's fun to be juvenile, especially when denigrating such a cartoonish figure as LIEberman.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:08 PM
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33. "Repuke" "LIEberman" - Yeah, you're a deep thinker all right.
A regular Noam Chomsky you are.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:09 PM
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34. You're defending the Republicans and Joe Lieberman and yet you go after me
for being a "deep thinker"? Disgusting and ignorant.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:14 PM
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35. I'm not defending either one - I'm commenting on YOUR use of elementary school invective
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 04:30 PM by Richardo
Including 'sweetie' in reply to a poster upthread. Not very becoming of a 'political scientist by trade'. Not one to be taken seriously anyway.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:47 PM
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47. Richardo - for your tireless work in the field of Political Science,
I hereby award you a certificate in "Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence"!

It will be mailed out soon, Honey-Nuts!


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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:02 PM
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50. Maybe he's a political analyst at Politico.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:42 PM
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41. I must say...
that your reading comprehension appears to leave much to be desired. He attacked your choice of words, and you say he's defending the Repubs and Lieberman? Not. even. close.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:34 PM
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45. Having the chairs is important
Right now we are usually failing to pass legislation we want, but when they had the majority. we were failing to stop them from destroying things already passed and from passign things like the bankruptcy bill.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:57 PM
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48. Do some research.
"He voted with the Repukes throughout his entire Senate career."

That's either an intentionally false statement or a lack of knowledge on your part. (I'd guess both)

Look up his votes. (I already have, but I'd rather such a renowned political scientist do a simple google search, before I respond further.) Sure, I'd have rather had an actual progressive Democrat as Indiana senator, but he in no way did he vote "with the Repukes throughout his entire Senate career."

Look it up, darling.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 07:15 AM
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59. Evan Bayh has voted with a majority of his Democratic colleagues 71.3% of the time
during the current Congress.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/b001233/

Perfect? No. Could it be better? Absolutely. Would a Republican vote with the Dems 71.3% of the time? Not a fucking chance in hell. Someone here is naive and it's not prolesunited. Don't make up bullshit facts and patronize her with your misogynistic "sweetie" bullshit.

"You have no idea who you're dealing with." :eyes: Take yourself a bit too seriously much?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:30 PM
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28. I don't think we'd be better off with a Repuke in any instance --
there seems to be no chance of the current crop EVER supporting anything we do. At least with Bayh there, there was a CHANCE -- not a big one, just teensie weensie, but a chance nonetheless.

Wonder what's gonna happen.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:52 PM
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11. So one of the biggest grid-lockers in Congress complains of grid-lock.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:20 PM
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13. Goodbye to the Honorary Co-Chair of the 'Committee to Liberate Iraq.'
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 01:52 PM by flpoljunkie
If you're wondering who his co-chair was, it was none other than Holy Joe Lieberman.

Evidently, Bayh did this to stick his finger in the eye of liberal democrats. He's a former chairman of the DLC, as well (2001-2005). We are the base, Senator Bayh. 'Centrist Dem' is another word for 'Corporate Dem'-beholden to the same special interests as Republicans.

Bayh is said to be upset about the 'personal attacks' on his wife who has earned, between 2006 and 2008 Susan $2.1 million from health insurers. Susan Bayh refused to step down from WellPoint's board and her husband denied the millions she earned from them would influence him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-sledge/evan-bayhs-very-long-2009_b_462736.html
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:48 PM
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52. Nice post!
Fuck a bunch of DINOs.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:23 PM
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14. Even you recognize that Evan Bayh is bullshitting us!
Wonders never cease!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:11 PM
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16. A lot of what he says is true though, the Senate is broken
when a phony like Bayh can see that, something needs to change. The Senate is broken, and right now it is an obstacle to governing.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:23 PM
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20. Notice that Bayh did not blame the GOP for the abuse of filibuster
We all know why the Senate is broken!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:34 PM
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21. he is a very dishonest man, but I'm grading him on a curve
He at least mentioned the 7 GOP dogs who voted against the deficit reduction panel after co sponsoring the bill.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:49 PM
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53. And this is the point.
Instead of defending Bayh we should be shouting out why the damn Senate is broken.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:49 PM
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31. Bayh was part of the problem.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:51 PM
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24. Quitter. The message is, all Republicans have to do is keep up
the obstruction and hateful rhetoric until they make the rest of the incumbent Democrats cry and quit. And wasn't Bayh who said we needed 60 votes to get anything done? Not only is he a wuss, he's a capitulating wuss.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:21 PM
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26. Something is very fishy about all of this. Has he got a soul mate somewhere?
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:48 PM
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42. Another posting is suggesting something similar... n/t
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:16 PM
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36. Bayh/Palin 2012
Quitters with bad excuses!

:rofl:


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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:51 PM
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54. They could "claim" bipartisanship.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:31 PM
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38. So you think he is disingenuous in mentioning gridlock as a reason to exit?
What do you think his motives are?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:41 PM
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40. Evan Bayh is the worst democrat in the Senate
and the second worse person in the caucus, he will not be missed by anyone other than his donors.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:41 PM
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46. Bayh voted with Dems only 71% this session of Congress. Deemed most likely to vote with R's.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:44 PM
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57. Do you have a link for what you post? n/t
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:52 PM
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55. +1, Jake! nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:23 PM
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56. So he goes out as a BIG
WHINO.

First I heard he's retiring and I can't help but think since he's a dino and deceptive that this is good for the country.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 09:24 PM
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58. "WHAT BAYH IS THINKING"
"WHAT BAYH IS THINKING.... Sen. Evan Bayh's (D-Ind.) retirement is a shocker, leading many to wonder what on earth a popular incumbent with plenty of money and a big lead in the polls is thinking. Bayh alluded to his frustrations on the Hill as part of his rationale.

"Two weeks ago, the Senate voted down a bipartisan commission to deal with one of the greatest threats facing our nation: our exploding deficits and debt. The measure would have passed, but seven members who had endorsed the idea instead voted 'no' for short-term political reasons," he said. "Just last week, a major piece of legislation to create jobs -- the public's top priority -- fell apart amid complaints from both the left and right. All of this and much more has led me to believe that there are better ways to serve my fellow citizens, my beloved state4 and our nation than continued service in Congress."

This sounds a bit like Bill Bradley's rationale in 1996 -- politics on Capitol Hill has become ugly and difficult, so I'm walking away.

But it's not exactly a compelling explanation. To hear Evan Bayh tell it, Republicans have made it impossible for Congress to work on issues important to him ... so he's decided to make it easier for the Republican caucus to have more power.
When the going gets tough, the conserva-Dems pack up and go home?


What's more, while I'm hardly familiar with Indiana's election procedures, reliable sources report that the filing deadline for candidates interested in the Senate race is this week, meaning Dems will have to scramble. If these reports are accurate, it would appear Bayh is hurting Democrats twice -- once by walking away when they need his vote, and again by making it extremely difficult for the party to find, recruit, and qualify a top-tier candidate to run in his stead.

For what it's worth, a great deal of the early talk -- and by "early," I mean "the last hour" -- is about the DSCC recruiting Rep. Brad Ellsworth (D), a Blue Dog and former county police sheriff from Indiana's Southwest corner.

Stay tuned.

Update: It appears that the signatures for a prospective candidate are due tomorrow, and it's extremely unlikely any Dem could pull this off in time. What's more likely, then, is that the Indiana Democratic Party will be responsible for selecting a candidate -- there would be no primary."

—Steve Benen 11:25 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (45)
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

So, not only does bayh go out whining he goes out at a time that seems deliberately calculated to hurt the Dems. Now there's a shocker.
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