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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:02 AM Original message |
Should the American people decide the immigration issue instead of elected officials? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. No. Right now, nativism has returned through concentrated |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. I totally agree Robson, |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. But they don't get it |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. I agree, Robson. I quit posting on this subject for a while |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. My rule with regard to politicians responding to "popular will": |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. LOL |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
6. No, this is a Republic. That means that we have protections against a straight |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. That is consistent with what I was telling Robson. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. your link is irrelevant bullshit |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. And where is your proof of all the evils caused by people 'illegally' in the USA? |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. that discussion is happening back at the thread you linked to... |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
8. they should quit trying to shove amnesty down our throats... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
10. Most polls show that most Americans favor "a road to citizenship". |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. They are not immigrants,they are univited guests used by big business to improve profits on our $$$ |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. There is already a road to citizenship |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
11. The Minutemen would find absolutely nothing to disagree with you about |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
13. If I thought the American people as a whole had any depth... |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. yeah, why should Americans get to make decisions for America? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. We do - we get to decide through representation. If you're ready to abandon the |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. It is wonderful to hear all of the kind words for our representative |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. It's easy for me - all I have to do is consider same sex marriage, or interracial |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I see where you're going with that, but immigration is not a civil rights issue |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Irrelevant. That's just an arbitrary distinction. NT |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. This is not our country......it's belongs to big business and the political parties |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-18-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
55. We do-- indirectly through our elected representatives. |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-18-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Have you ever heard of Sen Mike Gravel's National Initiative for Democracy ? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-18-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Dupe Please delete.... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-18-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I certainly agree that the results would be interesting, |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
16. Doesn't Bush support this move toward amnesty? |
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dave_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Doesn't the KKK oppose it? |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Touché |
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dave_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Yep |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
18. No thank you |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. Why...do you think the bought and paid for politicians know more than you? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I think the average congressman |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Big difference - average Congressmen have special interests - they benefit |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Me neither. For the same reasons. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
25. See the way it works is, we elect the officials and then they come up |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. We have referenda in California |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Same here in Colorado. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
27. Fatally flawed argument from the beginning. There are two issues, immigration, |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. oh, brooooother... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Apparently I didn't make myself clear... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
29. I think there are some things NOT suitable for referendum... |
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enfield collector (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. yes they should, since they're the ones paying for it. |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
33. Sometimes the masses are rational, sometimes they are not. This is not one of those times. |
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RL3AO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. No. We are a representative democracy. Lets keep it that way. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
37. Constitutional Republic Not Democracy |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Americans would do those jobs, if paid a fair wage. |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Reality Check Needed.....MOST Americans are not racists and are not ignorant |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. YES! K&R! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
44. No. This Is The Exact Sort Of Thing That Government Is Supposed To Handle. |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. We need a say before they screw us, not after |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. You have control |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
50. No, because we a re a Representative Republic |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
51. Um...isn't that why we have elected officials? To decide these matters for us? |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. But our government can be better and more responsive |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. Because this is a republic, not a democracy. |
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