Cheney's a horrible, evil demon. But please don't make sport of his desperate illness.

[MannyGoldstein]

We're better than that - that's why we're Democrats!

[ruggerson]

1. Couldn't agree more - rec

[vanbean]

83. I agree. It can does us no good to be mean spirited.

[felinetta]

105. I wholeheartedly agree. I am tired of Faux and Repigs pol idiots always wishing our democratic

politicians awful catastrophes.I don't want them to throw it
in our face if we go nasty on Dick.Don't give them any
opportunities.

[bluestateguy]

2. Tell you what

If he apologizes for the Iraq War, then I will think about considering what you said.

[mokawanis]

11. I'm with you

His crimes cancel out any sympathy I may have.

[Texasgal]

3. We should be better than that.

Agreed.

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. I liked it better when you used "fuck" instead of demon.

[MannyGoldstein]

7. As it read, it could be read as "he was lousy to have sex with"

Which was a pretty disturbing mental picture. Had to change it.

Ewwww.

[TheCowsCameHome]

10. Troo dat.

:rofl:

[Chemisse]

18. Thanks for sparing us the visual n/t

[daleanime]

34. Definitely a disturbing image....

and probably true.:evilgrin:

[puzzlingpond]

5. I agree with you. Good post.

[cwydro]

6. Thanks

Thought I might have to start my own thread and I never do.

I don't like grave dancing.

[stray cat]

8. There is no evidence that we are better than that - but we should be

[gateley]

9. Sorry. I'm not better than that. At least in this instance. I have never believed

in evil, but I really have wondered since observing Cheney over the years. It seems as though his heart has been dead for a long time, and he showed no empathy for all the lives he's affected. I'm usually a soft touch, but this is easy for me. I want him to suffer.

[MannyGoldstein]

15. He's mentally ill.

It so happens that he's also very effective at getting done the hideous stuff hatched in his defective brain. He should be stopped from doing his evil works, but he should not suffer. The Creator just made him that way.

[gateley]

22. I don't care. nt

[backwoodsbob]

16. the last time I visited my Grandfather

he had spent 30+ days in icu with a tube down his throat...he asked me to do things I wouldn't do..he died that night

I hope Cheney lives for years in that agony

[gateley]

23. That is my hope as well. If he dies he gets off too easy. nt

[bdamomma]

97. very true, he needs a little more pain in his life.

[Joe Fields]

40. agreed

[emilyg]

12. k/r

[tinymontgomery]

13. I don't want him to die

I'm going to hate to see the flag lowered to half mast for him.

[ingac70]

14. Fuck that bastard, living only because of my tax dollars. n/t

[patrice]

17. There are no absolutes and if there is such a thing as an exception to the common rule of decency wh

ich you cite, Dick Cheney is very probably that exception.

Let the dancing begin.

[patrice]

20. P.S. We're the little people, they don't give a shit what we say anyway.

[gateley]

47. +1 nt

[Bonobo]

19. There is tremendous irony and meaning behind his loss of humanity.

He had no heart and his heart was damaged.

He had no heartbeat and now he has no pulse.

It is karma in action.

It is the revelation of the method.

[elehhhhna]

30. damn, bonobo, you are smart & I LOVE your posts.

[Bonobo]

45. Thank you.

That was beautiful of you to say such a nice thing to me to brighten my day.

Let me know how things work out with your cannabis issue. I have 3 kids too. 15, 13 and 6.

[WillyT]

21. Sorry... Can't Do It... Too Much Blood On His Hands...

Link: http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/

And the suffering caused by the wrecked Economy...

:shrug:

[Chemisse]

24. You are so right. To wish for someone to suffer, and to rejoice in it,

even someone who is as evil, despicable, and inhuman as Cheney, is to take away some small bit of our own humanity. In that way it brings us a little bit closer to being like Cheney. To mock him at this time is to become more like him!

As Democrats we are better than that, and as human beings we are better than that.

[DCBob]

25. Absolutely.

rec

[Bobbieo]

26. WHO???

[Peregrine Took]

27. My husband is a heart attack victim. I have nothing but sympathy for them.

[Dogtown]

108. I'm a heart attack victim.

I still have no sympathy for Cheney.

[roamer65]

28. He made sport of the ending of hundreds of thousands Iraqi lives.

So I have no sympathy for him.

[HipChick]

29. I'm not going to celebrate...I have someone going through advanced heart diease now

I'm scared that everytime I hear the phone ring or open an email..it will be informing me he died..a 25yr+ friendship...hopefully a higher power will give Cheney his just desserts when the time comes

[gateley]

51. I'm so sorry, HipChick. I know it's terribly hard. Best wishes to your friend, I

hope he has good care and isn't in pain. :hug:

[Parker CA]

31. Nice post. K&R

[notadmblnd]

32. No, it's not why we're Democrats. It's why we never gain any ground.

too damn many people saying we have to take the high road. We have to be better than that. It's ridiculous to say it's what makes us Democrats. I'm a Democrat because I'm a liberal. And as a liberal, I believe that people should be allowed to express themselves verbally even if I don't agree with what they're saying. You don't have to dance on his grave, but you should not admonish people who do. What you can do, is ignore their comments.

[MannyGoldstein]

33. Nah, different thing.

We need to stop people who fuck with us. But we don't have to fuck with them - just stop them.

[bdamomma]

99. I like your comment Manny.

[Lint Head]

35. Sorry. In the name of the innocent dead and tortured I cannot

find an ounce of sympathy for this despicable person. I have close relatives that have suffered and died from heart disease. I wish the innocent Iraqi children could have lived long enough to actually have the frail ailments of age.
I am a Democrat and your damn right we are better than this war criminal no matter what.

[UTUSN]

36. No, we are HUMANS. Nobody is better than anybody. Everything is ALL good&evil. n/t

[pocoloco]

57. ....and we are all equal!

It's just that some are more equal than others....

[a la izquierda]

37. I just can't do that. Sorry.

His legacy of violence, destruction and hate have ruined thousands of lives world wide.

[yowzayowzayowza]

38. K&R, but once that mechanical heart dies.... n/t

[RedCloud]

39. Right, He'd save us if we were in need. right?

That chupacabras they shot in Texas still has a functioning heart...

[lynne]

41. I watched my father suffer for years and die of the same illness that Cheney has -

and I agree with you 100%. Every thread mocking his illness makes me sad as it reminds me of the suffering my father - and our whole family - went through.

No matter what I think of him politically, I have sympathy for anyone battling this disease and for their family.

[we can do it]

42. I Want Him To Rot In Prison

[Beetwasher]

43. Let Me Get This Straight: One Of The Most Vehemently Anti-Obama Posters On This Board Is Pleading

For us to give Cheney a break? Got it.

[MannyGoldstein]

44. Neither Cheney nor Obama should suffer

But they should both be stopped.

See the difference?

And no, I'm not saying that Obama's as bad as Cheney, either.

[Beetwasher]

46. Obama NEEDS TO BE STOPPED? Really? This Is What You Believe?

My my. How revealing.

[MannyGoldstein]

48. This is a surprise?

He's continuing the evisceration of the middle class, and has kept most of Bush/Cheney's egregious policies and even added extrajudicial execution warrants for US citizens. And a side order of attacking Social Security.

[Beetwasher]

50. No, I'm Not Surprised YOU Want To "Stop" Him

Not at all.

Personally, I'd like to persuade him to change his mind about a few things, but "stop" him? No way in hell, Chester.

[MannyGoldstein]

53. I guess that, on balance, you think he's doing a good job

I don't - and I'll try like hell to get an actual Democrat elected President in 2012.

[Beetwasher]

54. Yes, Yes, Sure You Will

I'm sure you will work oh so hard there, cupcake, to make that happen. As you attack the actual Democratic president who will be on the ticket. :eyes:

[dionysus]

64. +1

[Beetwasher]

67. Personally, I've Recced This Thread

I think it needs to be seen more.

[Fuzz]

49. Bah, fuck that immoral piece of shit.

[scheming daemons]

52. His problem is that his heart is three sizes too small.... n/t

[InvisibleTouch]

55. Sorry, but I've never felt any obligation...

...to feign empathy or sympathy for someone who unquestionably deserves to suffer. And I can't fault anyone for enjoying it even just a little.

[Urban Prairie]

56. To an alleged leader of this country who said "So" ?

to 2/3 of the nation, after being asked if he cared about their feelings that the war was not worth fighting.


Nah, Cheney can go fuck himself.

There are many Republicans who might deserve my deepest sympathies if they became seriously ill, and near death, but that soulless scumbag can fry in the deepest bowels of Hades, after he dies, as much as I care.

[tabasco]

58. Whoever told you Democrats are expected to give shitstains like Cheney any respect

whatsoever was a dumbass.

[MannyGoldstein]

59. No need for respect

No need to wish suffering, either.

[Sal Minella]

66. I could feel sorry for Cheney, but I seem to have other priorities. n/t

[Individualist]

60. I haven't seen any posts making sport of his illness. The well deserved bashing of Cheney

is not the same as making sport of his illness.

[Touchdown]

61. The memories of 5000+ soldiers, 1M Iraqis, and 11 oil rig workers disagree with you

Sorry, but society benefits when he's gone.

[Cleita]

62. I respect you're taking the high road and you are a better

person than me. I cannot feel much kindness towards someone who had absolutely no compassion for any living being, either plant, animal or human throughout his miserable, mean and cruel life.

[K8-EEE]

63. Absolutely! The Freepers disgusted me when Ted Kennedy died

I would really want to think we have a little more class then them, don't blow it for me!

[WinkyDink]

82. I hardly equate TK with DC.

[lonestarnot]

65. You can kiss his ass over his illness, not me.

[niyad]

68. I wish him EVERYTHING he deserves

[hobbit709]

69. Normally I'd say "De mortuis nil nisi bonum"

But he ain't dead yet.

[FreeState]

70. K&R

When we diminish others humanity we also diminish our own

[Sal Minella]

77. Many of us discern precious little "humanity" to diminish in this instance --

that's the problem, you see.

[Amaya]

71. fuck him

nt

[DemoTex]

72. From the pages of the WSJ (Cheney's Bible)

[BolivarianHero]

73. Aside from the World Cup, South Africa has something else to celebrate...

Ask people who lived under Apartheid how vile this man is.

[JoeyT]

74. Through torture and murder he gave up his humanity.

If you can't mock the death of a person that had a hand in the deaths of hundreds of thousands and the torture of hundreds(maybe thousands), who's it ok to make fun of? I'm sure it would upset his family, but from what I've seen they're all scum too.

[hyphenate]

75. Wait a minute--we're talking about dickhead, right?

I thought you were referring to a human, not a disgusting, scheming, ratfaced lying sleazebag.

I don't give a fuck about being "better" than them--dick is evil, and after 8 years of being subjected to his visions of doom and gloom, I only hope he gets payback for all the fuckups he's been in charge of for all that time. His constant lying, subterfuge, conspiracies and greed have lead the US to the deepest abyss of life in this country, with those lies leading to a pre-emptive strike in Iraq, Halliburton, and Blackwater making possibly billions of dollars from deals made with the Iraqis, thousands of deaths of both military and civilians, and untoldpain and suffering.

Hate Dickhead? YES. And he deserves only as much consideration as I'm sure he would show to me--or any of us--as I would give to an ant. I'm not forgiving, and I don't give a fuck what happens to him. He shouldn't be alive anymore anyhow, as I'm sure the devil demanded his soul a long time ago.

[eridani]

76. The main thing I resent is having to pay for it

Too bad the useless parasite isn't on the hook for the bills himself. Not enjoying the thought of suffering though--hope he gets pain relief.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

78. LIVE Dick LIVE! I want to see you & dubya in Orange Jumpsuits

picking up litter along a highway

[Jakes Progress]

87. That's the ticket. +100

[eowyn_of_rohan]

93. Then we could drive by and heckle them!

:bounce:

[Downtown Hound]

96. Heckle them? Shit...

I'd commit a crime just so I could get put on the same chain gang as them, and then I'd really make their lives hell...

[eowyn_of_rohan]

98. LOL - love it

I'm too puny to do them any physical damage.

[Downtown Hound]

100. 'S'okay, the nice officers give you a pickaxe...

[MrMickeysMom]

79. The one thing I wish to say about Mr. Cheney and his LVAD...

That piece of technology is the only thing left to circulate enough cardiac output in his ever-increasing inability to sustain that hell of a thing we must recognize as his life.

Isn't it strange how instrumental this human error of DNA was from the start of Bush 2 in bleeding out the cor fluid of the earth?


Here we are trying to patch up the resulting errors stemming from an energy policy he allowed the industries to control. Now, we get to foot the bill for Cheney's left ventricular assist device. We pay as he goes, and His industries allowed t run amok can't plug the earth's biggest failure.

What a criminal. No wonder that pump of his is dying off a little more each day. I hope he enjoys the run up to staying out of CHF. I hope all of you tax payers love paying for it. Mostly, I hope he lives a really long time with CHF because I know what he's going to be going through.

Mr. Cheney. You can run, but you can't hide from what your own body is doing. Oh, yes, you deserve life. That, and SO MUCH more.

[Brooklyns_Finest]

80. Grave Dancing Sucks

People who do so are no better than the server who spits in a rude customers food. Neither actions are anything to be proud of.

I hope Cheney recovers and retires peacefully with his friends and family.

[Downtown Hound]

88. Would you have wished the same thing for Hitler, Pol Pot,

Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, or many other individuals that put their boot down on the human race while they were alive and left a trail of misery and tears everywhere they went? Is Cheney spared this condemnation in your mind because he's an American?

[LanternWaste]

94. If grave dancing could prevent the aforementioned activities

If grave dancing could prevent the aforementioned activities, I'd be all for it. Yet as it can't, it is at best, merely a waste of one's time.

On hearing of the death of Duvalier, I merely noted his passage and then went back attending to those things I needed to attend to. I cannot imagine what positive consequences (other than a base and visceral satisfaction... which advertise more about me than Duvalier)it would result in.

[Downtown Hound]

95. Of course it won't prevent the atrocities

But if it makes some of the victims of them feel better, then I say by all means, dance a jig.

[LanternWaste]

101. We allow ourselves to feel better or feel worse despite...

We allow ourselves to feel better or feel worse despite an inconsequential thing, not due to it.

[Downtown Hound]

102. I'll tell you what

When you've lived the life of an Iraqi civilian that has watched their country destroyed, their family members killed, their environment irradiated and poisoned, their countrymen tortured, then come back and preach that oh so enlightened philosophy to me. As far as I'm concerned, all that turn the other cheek forgive and forget bullshit only serves to keep the oppressed down and prevent them from fighting back because "they have to be better than their oppressors."

We're human, we have feelings, we get hurt. When people do this to us it makes us angry, and you know what? THAT'S OKAY. It's okay to be angry and it's okay to hate when you've been royally shit upon. And if I choose to feel that, then that's my mother fucking right as a human being.

[LanternWaste]

104. Who is denying your rights?

It's hardly an enlightened philosophy. Merely one side of the human condition as you so aptly illustrat the other side. :shrug: Who is denying your rights? I see merely suggestions and conversations.


"and it's okay to hate when you've been royally shit upon."
I imagine some may even believe that to be the case.

[Downtown Hound]

106. I never said anybody was denying my rights

I said I had a right to hate evil, destructive men, and I'm not going to follow your suggestion or the OP's about not grave dancing. When the fat fuck gremlin Cheney dies, I'm going to go look outside at the sun and know that it is shining on a better world for not having that subhuman piece of shit in it.

Comprendo?

[marions ghost]

89. Look at the bigger picture

beyond the physical entity of Dick Cheney. The evil that he spawned lives after him. His criminal actions and stealth presidency will have consequences for decades, maybe the whole century. The death of his physical body does not end the suffering of millions.

"Grave Dancing" = just a small Final FU from the hugely fucked over. A healthy ritual exorcism.

As for recovering and retiring "peacefully" with his friends and family...he deserves none of that.

Cheney's legacy and what he stands for--ie. the symbolic aspect of the man--is what we should fiercely in the strongest language, OPPOSE FOR ALL TIME. Make him a pariah in history, similar to the H-man. That is what he deserves.

[Dogtown]

109. " I hope Cheney recovers and retires peacefully with his friends and family."

I hope he lives another hundred years. And has a heart attack every hour on the hour.


I also hope a server spits in your food.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

111. Why am I not surprised that you've more sympathy to Cheney than to the victim of Mel Gibson's abuse?

[WinkyDink]

81. No. I'm a Democrat because I want to help those in need, not evil wealthy cruel lying greedy tor-

turers.

MY religion requires contrition and penance to obtain absolution.

Sorry.

[Downtown Hound]

84. The only reason I'm not making sport of his illness is because his illness

is way too easy for him. The fat fuck deserves much worse. If this makes me a not so good person, well, I can live with that. But I'm tired of pretending that I don't hate these men with the fire of a thousand suns and wish them all the torment they can possibly endure and a bunch they can't.

Cheney can go to hell, and every moment of misery he experiences is music to my ears. And I have no intention of giving that up.

I think I'll go play with my Dick Cheney voodoo doll now. Maybe it's working, 'eh?

[joe black]

85. Please don't tell me what to do.

[Jakes Progress]

86. This is one of those cases

where venting should be stifled for the greater good.

[hayu_lol]

90. I'm sure that the Phelps family...

is brokenhearted at losing such a prominent funeral they could have gone to.

No remorse for anything that Cheney is going through. Ask the GIs in permanent residence at Walter Reed what they think.

[Jakes Progress]

110. Go ahead and vent. It will make you feel good.

Should cheney die he should roast in hell for eternity. He is an example of how low and how base a human being can be. That this country and this administration sheltered him from prosecution is a stain that the country and the white house will not erase.

See you can complain about what an example of dung he is. But celebrating death is not a good thing. It only feeds the other side. But if you think your personal desire to grave dance is more important than what might be good for the party, go ahead. Being selfish is a good way to celebrate the life and death of an extremely selfish ass like cheney.

[walldude]

91. I'm with you... that tasteless "official death watch" thread disgusted me

And man you should have seen the responses when I said so. Kind of like what you are getting in here only I seemed to be the only one at the time. Except for the mod who finally locked that thing.

Will the world be a better place when he is gone? YES. Will I be happy? YES. Do I need to celebrate like some kind of morbid tea bagger? NO.

If it were a Democrat who was sick and the Freeps had a "death watch" thread all these people who are celebrating Cheney would be hammering the freeps for their tasteless crap.

[uncommon]

92. I'm not better than that.

:shrug:

[skip fox]

103. There always seems to be a good reason to inhibit speech.

[Feron]

107. Well if you can't say anything nice...

sit next to me!!

There are people with whom I disagree with politically, but are good and decent in general.

And then there are people like Cheney that have no redeemable features at all. I think a large part of the glee comes from the fact that Cheney will never be punished legally for his actions. So his illness is viewed as the only punishment he will receive. People are delighting in the fact that he won't get away entirely scott free.

Personally I'll reserve my concern for people worthy of it. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to dig out my dancing shoes. They haven't seen any action since Falwell died.

[hamsterjill]

112. I find it hard to hope that someone will die.

I think it's bad karma to hope for someone's death. Maybe Cheney's an exception for me. I don't know. I'm having a hard time having any compassion for the man who I think was the puppet master during the Bush terms - all three of them.

But I try to remind myself that this man has family members, etc. who will be saddened by his passing. I try to feel compassion for those family members.

Even still, I will totally admit that I know that I'll feel safer when he's gone, because then I will know for sure that he can no longer cause people to die.