It is NOT a leak.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

This damn thing is a flood, a catastrophe of the first order, a horrifying flood of toxic oil.

The word "leak" is so damn convenient, and so damn wrong. There has to be another, much stronger, much better word.

Leak makes it sound like some little dribble down there, away from us. It is not.

Damn.

:rant:

[gateley]

1. Randi Rhodes called it a volcano. nt

[redqueen]

5. Yep...

that's what I call it.

I don't know why anyone calls it a spill. We went way past 'spill' back when it started...a MONTH ago.

[W_HAMILTON]

64. That's a good description for it.

I saw footage on TV, a different shot than I was used to. I had the sound turned down, so I actually thought it was that volcano in Iceland. It wasn't till I watched a few seconds then read the banner that came up that I realized it was footage from the oil pipe.

[barbtries]

2. it's not a spill,

it's a spew.

[spanone]

3. nor is it a 'spill' it's an ecological disaster of incredible magnitude

[dana_b]

4. a gusher -a torrent

a flood - anything but a "leak". A leak is what I have under my bathroom sink.

[glitch]

26. Gasher

I feel like it's a gash in the side of the Earth, an arterial wound.

[dana_b]

32. good one

very fitting

[Canuckistanian]

6. Faucets leak. Uncapped oil wells are a torrent.

Yes, there should be a better description other than "leak" or "spill"

[seabeyond]

7. someone complaining about spill, so i went to leak, and thought more than a leak

cant say gush. what would the appropriate description be that we could use

[seabeyond]

9. thesaurus.... flow is good

Synonyms: aperture, chink, crack, crevice, decrease, destruction, detriment, drip, drop, escape, expenditure, exposure, fissure, flow, hole, leakage, leaking, loss, outgoing, percolation, pit, puncture, short circuit

[lonestarnot]

8. It's a raging blow!

[Art_from_Ark]

10. Whatever it is,

it is an environmental disaster of epic proportions.

To paraphrase Shakespeare:

A skunk by any other name would stink just as bad

[Uncle Joe]

11. It's a gusher as in Gulf Oil Gusher, AKA GOG as in Gog and Magog.

Thanks for the thread, CaliforniaPeggy.:thumbsup:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

13. I had to.

It was either post or explode.

[HOLOS]

72. This is a Catastrophic National and Planetary Emergency...Where is Pres. Obama??

[Lorien]

29. Yep, and it's still hard to believe that it's still gushing a month later

we can put a man on the moon but we can't stop this? Please!

[Uncle Joe]

78. It took ninth months to plug one up in far more shallow water a few decades ago, in that case divers

were able to work on it.

[texastoast]

12. And it's in the Louisiana swamps

http://www.click2houston.com/news/23616177/detail.html

[CaliforniaPeggy]

14. It sure is.

Just sickening.

[texastoast]

15. That picture looks like blood in the water

It just breaks my heart for all the animals. For all of us.

[revolution breeze]

16. Yep!

Plaquemines Parish now has 24 miles of dead, contaminated, destroyed marshland! And the rest of the coast sits and waits. I am furious!

[AnArmyVeteran]

17. The so-called 'liberal media' sure protects corporate interests doesn't it?

I know there is no such thing as a 'liberal media'. It is a complete fabrication. The media are corporate owned and corporate driven. All they care about are money and profits. Any pretense of the media actually seeking to uncover the truth fell victim to their collective lusts for riches long ago. There is so much incestuous behavior between the media and and corporations they report on resembles an orgy of the rich & powerful more than anything else, and certainly not any attempt to gather facts or the truth.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

19. You could not be more right.

This is very well said, and I thank you for adding it to my simple rant.

[jotsy]

18. I get numb when I go there because the capacity for damage is so open ended.

They've cut into an artery of the earth and the toxins in its blood are destroying segments of life vital to our own survival. There are not bigger fools of a more dangerous sort.

+1,000% Miss Peg. Hugs and kicks.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

20. An artery of the earth...well said!

Thank you, my dear jotsy.

[glitch]

27. Arterial wound

That's what I called it upthread before I read your post. Horrified minds think alike. :cry:

[jotsy]

35. Sad and scary days they are, glitch.

Us heartier hearts must find a way to prevail over the hardened and hollowed ones for the sake and principle of preserving whatever quality may be left to a man made more finite destiny.

Be as well as any of us can. A black tide of tough times is part of our future, no matter how much it hurts or makes us mad or justified both are, like it or not. We need sentient, sensible, and sensitive beings like yourself to see us through. We all need the best of our collective strength to see if a chance can be made to present itself.

[glitch]

39. Good advice. Thanks for the centering. Likewise you be well. :hug: nt

[nichomachus]

21. It is a leak

in the same way that 9/11 was a "plane crash."

[CaliforniaPeggy]

41. Exactly.

A great metaphor.

Thank you...

[NYC_SKP]

22. It's a stabbing, a brutal stabbing into an artery of our Mother Earth.

We fucked up big time.

x(

I made this video in a grad school class in 2003: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPz8k0R7eEs

As Americans, we have to do better, much better.

:patriot:

[Cetacea]

36. +1

Nice work on the video!:toast:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

40. My dear NYC_SKP...

That's a terrific video...

I gave you a thumbs up, and I saved it to my favorites...

Well done, sweetie!

:applause:

[ljm2002]

23. It's an oil gusher...

...an underwater oil gusher, way bigger than most, and under extreme pressure due to the depth -- therefore it is gushing faster than a similar one on land would be.

[SidDithers]

24. It's an oil spill. A gargantuan oil spill of epic proportions...nt

Sid

[Karenina]

38. No, it is NOT a "spill." NOT, NOT, NOT.

A "spill" refers to a finite quantity like when we don't cry over spilt milk. This is a SPEW, GUSHER, GEYSER and before it's over (particularly if BP remains "in charge") has the potential to become an ERUPTION. LET'S NUKE IT!!! :eyes:

Has the Gulf been a dumping ground for the U.S. MIC? Anyone know what's down there??? :SIGH:

[Ticonderoga]

74. It's an unreachable, undersea,

torrent of death and destruction.

[greencharlie]

25. shhhhhh...

don't distract the administration. They're busy spending money and fighting wars.

:sarcasm:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

28. Oh yeah...

I'd like to stuff this "distraction" down their throats.

I hear ya...

[kctim]

30. Such a catastrophe

that this atheist is going to say "AMEN CalPeg, AMEN! Don't stop preaching that."

[CaliforniaPeggy]

31. Thank you!

I really appreciate your sentiment...

[SoxFan]

33. 'Tis but a fleash wound

[CaliforniaPeggy]

34. In the midst of this horror...

You managed to make this angry old lady smile, and for that I thank you...

Some flesh wound, hey?

I thought those weren't supposed to be fatal...

[Tommy_Carcetti]

37. From the video it hardly looks like a leak. It looks like a geyser. nt

Video

[amborin]

42. kick

[CaliforniaPeggy]

43. Aw, thanks...

:hug:

[DesertFlower]

44. it's a disaster.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

47. That it is...

[DesertFlower]

48. i heard a scientist say

that when we eat fish we'll be eating poison.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

49. I wouldn't doubt it.

At least fish from the Gulf, for now...

Who knows later on? The toxicity will spread and affect a lot more fisheries.

[DesertFlower]

50. the guy seemed to think it was going

to spread.

[cwydro]

45. Thank you Peg.

I am so incensed, so heartbroken, so in disbelief...I cannot speak of it without a rise in blood pressure.

It is a geyser and they are putting that chemical dispersant poison in the water in god knows how many quantities...which only MAKES IT SINK TO THE BOTTOM. What else is sinking to the bottome? All the creatures great and small killed by this.

What a nightmare. It is in the loop current and expected to show up here in the Keys by next week.

Fucking criminals...fucking liars. I heard the fucking head of BP just went back to England to celebrate his birthday. Omg, I can't even stand the anger I am feeling.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

46. My dear cwydro...

I hear you, sweetie...

You mirror my feelings exactly.

Thank you for expressing them so eloquently...

:hug:

[Bigmack]

51. Blowout! nt

[cwydro]

52. kick

rec

[cwydro]

53. kick

again...

[BrklynLiberal]

54. K& R..for the spewing oil in the Gulf

[BadgerKid]

55. Eco-disaster, definitely; but still a "leak" in terms of volume? (check my math!)

for example, the Mississippi River has an outflow of around 13,000 m^3/s, or about 80,000 oil barrels per second, which is around 7,000,000,000 oil barrels per day.

One estimate for the oil pipe rupture is 120,000,000 oil gallons thus far, or about 2,850,000 oil barrels.

One barrel of oil yields about 28 gallons of gasoline. That means about 1,900,000 gallons of gas potentially lost.

Call the national average of gas to be $3/gal, thus a loss of around $6 Million in gas revenue.

If the calculation is correct, $6 M is reasonably little to an oil company. They can afford the loss. Or any multiple thereof if the oil rupture volume is actually a multiple larger.

Conclusions:

1. a rise in gas prices at the pump seems unjustified.

2. an oil company wins and still profits. The Earth and is inhabitants still lose.

[cwydro]

58. Way way more than that going into the Gulf...

Check the latest stats.

Way WAY more.

This is a horror.

And no one is even thinking twice at letting them use the dispersants, more toxic than the oil.

This administration is dropping the ball.

[truedelphi]

61. I really think this shows we need a one term Presidency

Give the position five years or six years, but let's have no more of these "leaders" who tiptoe around when they should be showing some bullocks.

What is Obama so afraid of? That his little BP friends won't support his re-election?

By now, someone like Harry Truman would have had the best and brightest minds from around the world working to salvage this disaster. And not the BP smug heads that are not doing a damn thing.

[BadgerKid]

75. Not trying to downplay...so what's the biggest

official outflow rate that's out there? And then we'll assume it's much bigger than that.

[NoSheep]

56. And the Earth didn't "spring" this "leak" either. It was drilled.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

59. Exactly.

And of course, that makes it so much worse.

It would still be horrifying if it had happened naturally, but it didn't.

This was done on purpose.

[HooptieWagon]

57. K&R n/t

[yoyossarian]

60. It's the end of the world as we know it...

And I DON'T feel fine. I feel like cryin'...
This whole last month I've been so goddamned depressed; I just can't believe how stupid America is... that we could allow this sort of drilling to begin with, and then to react to the crisis with such a weak, tepid, pathetic response in the face of this mind-numbing horror... for weeks and weeks, it's like our government is in deep denial or something!

Where's the submarine with the robot arms? The one they just re-outfitted with a special nose that has a hole that, if you maneuver just so, fits right over that pipe and irises down like a sci-fi spaceship doorway and clamps onto it nice and tight, and the oil is received into a special chamber in the hull and then pumped to surface tankers... where? Where the fuck is that thing???

I think BP's upper management are criminally negligent. I think they should all be boiled in oil.

Where's Mexico on this? They must be REALLY pissed at us; they share the Gulf with us, not to mention Cuba... and it's rapidly becoming a really huge, really nasty, really disgusting toilet... and this shit will continue to spread and spread and spread, throughout the world...

GOOD NEWS, though: Maybe it's NOT the end of the world... dare I hope???

THE COSTNER SOLUTION!!!

President Evil Online has risen from the grave!

[WinkyDink]

66. "British" has us stymied. Obama's personal governing style leaves him ineffective. Corporate bosses

prevent action.

But mostly, IMO, once Obama takes control, it becomes HIS problem to solve. And he is no political fool.

[amb123]

62. It's a "cascade", a "flood", a "deluge", a "tidal wave".

It's not a "leak", a "spill", or even a "boo-boo".

[BlancheSplanchnik]

63. I'm at a loss

no words.

the animals.... the poor animals :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[reggie the dog]

65. how many families will be ruined???

dad loses fishing job, starts drinking, loses wife, kids lose dad at home.......

[WinkyDink]

68. And murders will result, as the sun rises in the East.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

71. let's not attack each other

that was my sentiment.

isn't there enough negativity?

we gravitate to the issues we gravitate to. There are enough to go around.

[Stuart G]

67. Yes, you are correct, the asshole media is wrong..nt

[carlyhippy]

69. this is no "leak".....

2012 may be correct, but it wont be due to some meteor or natural catastrophe, humans will cause it...how sad that is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZoOJga5wbc&feature=related

doesnt look like a "leak" to me....

[Nordmadr]

70. This is an environmental and economic disaster of

epic proportions. If you thought the economy was recovering; best think again. The environmental recovery will take longer than I'll be alive.

[Technodaoist]

73. Ive been using the wildcatter term Gusher

...in conversation recently when talking about 'the leak' "Oh, you mean the month old gusher?"

[carlyhippy]

76. WOW compare the videos of the disaster a couple of weeks apart

it's getting worse....
now:
http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream2&hpt=T1

earlier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZoOJga5wbc&feature=rela...

[Desertrose]

77. An artery of Mother Earth's oil (blood).

That's what I call it.