Rosie off the View: Payback has Started?

[cgrindley]

Sometimes I feel like I'm trapped in The Untouchables only it's backwards... put one of his men in the hospital, he puts one of ours in the morgue.

This is why getting into it with the right wing is so dangerous. They're vindictive. If we get Imus kicked off the air, they'll retaliate by getting three or four of ours kicked off.

I don't even like Rosie, but I see what's happening.

[Lex]

1. Rosie only signed a 1 year contract with The View

in the first place. Then she would decide after 1 year whether or not she wanted to come back.

[cgrindley]

2. Not being renewed = being fired

It's like being "asked" to resign.

[Tempest]

3. She wasn't fired if it was her decision not to come back

[Lex]

9. Exactly.

Sheesh. Words confuse people I guess.

[Javaman]

20. "you can't fire me, because I quit!!" LOL nt

[Lex]

21. ABC wanted her for 3 more years--she only wanted 1 more year

under contract.

Wow, that's some firing, eh?

[Javaman]

22. I was only quoting George Castanza. LOL nt

[Lex]

24. I think it predates him.

nt

[Javaman]

27. ugh. whatever. no one has a sense of humor anymore. nt

[live love laugh]

42. She wanted more money. They didn't offer it. I think that equates to firing.

If they wanted to keep her, they would have paid her within the range of what she was asking. I'm not saying that she had to get every penny she asked for, but negotiations are done based on the offeror's desire to retain the services of someone. Obviously they did not want to keep her or they would have paid her more.

Also, I am sure that her contract won't allow her to discuss the details of the negotiations so there is no way to know how big the gap was between what they offerered and what she asked for. But were that available, it would speak volumes about whether she just left or was fired.

[mondo joe]

44. That's plain idiotic. Not meeting someone's demand isn't firing them. nt

[live love laugh]

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[Canuckistanian]

48. "I want less time working for you" / "No, we want MORE time"

Yeah, sounds like they wanted to get rid of her REAL bad.....

[mudesi]

29. Don't kid yourself: She was fired

The writing has been on the wall for months that Rosie was not going to last. This is not the first time Ms. Walters has lied about such things in order to save face. She attempted to do the same with Star Jones without success.

There is no doubt in my mind that Ms. O'Donnell was fired. Ms. Walters has not been a fan of hers for quite some time, despite the spike in ratings. You can even tell that Ms. Walters was not comfortable with Ms. O'Donnell's outspoken, take no prisoners style, from the way Ms. Walters constantly added little "disclaimers" every time Ms. O'Donnell said something even remotely controversial.

[Tempest]

32. I'm not kidding myself

Her contract was for one year and Rosie was asking for more money than they were willing to pay her.

Considering how big an increase in viewers the show saw after Rosie started appearing, it's ludicrous to believe they didn't want her back.

But feel free to believe whatever you want.

And while you're at it, read post #21.

[Lex]

8. SHE asked for a one year contract so SHE could decide

not to rene--and she decided not to come back.

How hard is this for you to understand?

[Honeycombe8]

23. She said they wanted 3 yr new contract, she wanted only 1 year...

and other contract disagreements that they couldn't work out.

But she is leaving on good terms, she said, and will be back to guest host the show, as well as doing specials for the network.

It sounds legit to me. Unless they let her say this stuff so as not to hurt her reputation.

[BlooInBloo]

33. Why is it sooo impossible for people to believe that a liberal can leave without being fired?

There's enough outrage to go around without making the shit up without evidence, and with actual evidence to the contrary.

[slj0101]

4. She was way too big a name to share billing with three others.

It showed from day one. I don't buy for a second that it had anything to do with her 9/11 opinions. My guess is she asked for more money, didn't get it, goodbye Rosie.

[marshall]

43. I agree, she didn't fit the format

The show is four women with the occasional doyen Walters chatting about the PTA and other light minded things. Rosie came in and turned it into her own show--"Rosie and Sidekicks". And Walters did not like being a sidekick on her own show.

[CJCRANE]

5. I read on another blog

that she may get her own show (let's hope so).

[orleans]

34. (didn't she already have her own show?) n/t

[gatorboy]

6. You have a link to her being fired?

I'd love to see this considering she's been a ratings juggernaut since hosting the show.

Besides the Imus angle is pretty dumb. The man was very much against Bush. The think the right were attracted the man so much because they basically share the same bigoted opinions.

[Divine Discontent]

10. she wasn't fired, she wanted too much

and obv. some at Disney figured, let her leave then, and so the others agreed who liked her, but their ratings will drop 20% when she goe$.
http://www.yahoo.com/s/565576

[gatorboy]

11. I had a feeling the OP was misinformed.

either that or it was a case of wishful thinking. :)

[Divine Discontent]

36. bradblog did the same thing... made it sound like firing

the fact is, rosie can command an easy 15 mil to do a daytime show again, she got around 30 5 years ago. she probably wanted too much, and they wanted her for 3 years, she's tried for weeks I read... oh well... no reason besides Joy to watch the show anymore, so I won't see it much..

[Divine Discontent]

7. hardly

If I was her I would have demanded a lot more considering ratings skyrated and I had to put up with so much crap... ratings will drop when she goes, it's just a fact. in a way, they're glad she's gone, but also, it'll hit their pockets.

Of course nutjob rightwingers and regular small town folks will say they got rid of her... let him have their laughs, they NEED them this year (bad year for repubs)

[xultar]

12. No it isn't payback. Prez Hilton reported months ago that she had her own show in the works.

The show will be on ABC.

[TahitiNut]

13. She didn't want the daily grind - and long term contract. They wanted to lock her in.

So, because they love the ratings increase she brought, she's going to guest host (with very healthy compensation, I'm certain). That's hardly 'payback' or a firing ... that's ABC on their knees and Rosie saying 'enough!'

[rurallib]

14. Maybe, just maybe Limbaugh, Hannity, Reagan, Wiener

etc. will all get caught in this idiocy. Now that would be ironic.

[AndyA]

15. This was Rosie's decision, from what I understand.

She specified a one year contract so she would have options, and apparently she decided in order for her to come back for another year, they would have to cough up REALLY BIG BUCKS to keep her.

The show's ratings are up, due to Rosie. Advertisers want to advertise on the show. They just can't afford her.

I would bet Rosie has something else in the works. Working with Baba Wawa every day has to be "difficult". Just ask Kathy Griffin!

[partylessinOhio]

16. I don't feel the true story is out yet. Rosie hasn't updated her blog today.

I'm sure she will have much to say when she does.

Rosie has been targeted for some weeks now almost nonstop on certain cable nonsense channels. I'm certain that took a toll on the negotiations with ABC.

Any strong voice of truth must be silenced by the BushCabal. Everyone knows that but keeps tiptoeing around it.

[erpowers]

17. Wish She Had Stayed

I wish Rosie had stayed at least for a little while longer so the Republicans would not be able to say they forced her to leave. Even though it seems to be her decision and she may have a show of her own soon it gives Republicans at least a little time to claim the made this happen. In addition, I contend the media will run with the Republican side of things or try to promote the Republican side as much as possible. I imagine the news reporters today and tomorrow will ask what role her latest comments and her previous comments had on her departure.

[Matariki]

18. was Imus 'right wing'? n/t

[cgrindley]

37. I was just assuming since he was being racist

I've never listened to him.

[Raine]

38. No he wasn't

he supported progressive causes but he made a stupid ignorant remark which was his undoing.

[sandnsea]

47. Just a racist sexist pig

run of the mill "independent" white male asshole who thinks ridiculing liberals is great sport.

The right wing loved him. Why anybody on the left gave a shit about him is beyond me.

[Bitwit1234]

19. It is a stupid show anyway

That Elizabeth acts like she is a prima donna and when she uses the bathroom it doesn't stink......I saw bits of it in passing. I am sure Rosie doesn't care what the republicans think.

She has a quiz show in the works and I am sure the ratings will overpower the View any day of the week.

[earth mom]

25. I am not happy about this at all-especially with the election coming up in 08.

Rosie's voice has been one of the few voices being heard in rebuttal to the lies from the corporate media and now it's over. That it was her decision doesn't ease any of the loss about this turn of events.

It sucks. Simple as that. :(

[soothsayer]

26. She asked for $40 mil, they said 'no', she's got another deal in the works.

[mudesi]

28. Worse, Hasselbeck is still there

Let's hope they replace Rosie with a liberal who won't take any of Hasselbeck's nonsense.

[ecstatic]

30. Blame Barbara Walters. She has no backbone and is a traitor

First Starr, now Rosie. The "story" Rosie had to tell to explain the situation was disgusting. BW must think we're all a bunch of idiots.

[mudesi]

31. Precisely

This is not the first time Ms. Walters has saved face.

[Robson]

35. SURPRISE: An outspoken Irish lesbian gentile gets canned from ABC and US media cabal

Why was Rosie O fired? Irish American gentiles that represent 10% of the USA are vastly under-represented in the US media. BTW I'm not Irish but I strongly believe in media representation based upon US demographics.....and that is not as it now exists.

[riverdeep]

39. The official story is that she was not forced out

but considering Bawa's history on this matter regarding Jones, it's probably good to be skeptical.

The right wingers are jumping for joy, and especially that buttmunch, Trump (yes, I know he hates Bush), but what are they gonna talk about for hours on their show now. When the Walter Reed story was discussed on real news stations, Fox was talking Rosie.

My own belief is she's had enough. She has had some mental issues, and I think the show and it's attendant critics are proving to be too much and wearing her down. But you know, you can only burn white hot for so long, then you burn out. She touched so many third-rail issues, in a format not used to it, from a fat lesbian, in a not always altogether tactful or even deep way, that something had to give. Too bad, she's the only reason I watched.

But she won't actually be leaving until June, and you better believe she's gonna go out with both barrels blazing.

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[matcom]

41. word on the street is Karl Rove got her pregnant on purpose to kill her career

really.

[Warren DeMontague]

46. It's payback for "Riding the bus with my sister"

now THAT was criminal.