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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:07 PM Original message |
Mandatory Vaccinations |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. In the past the government has ordered and implemented mandatory vaccinations |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. To deny |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. No it isn't. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. show me where someone is talking about denial of emergency care |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. That 300-500M figure is *for the twentieth century alone*, too |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
73. What part of "any" |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. your reading apprehension is below that of a 5th grader |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
129. maybe if you would stop waving your arms like a little girl |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #80 |
130. Hey grantcart |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Polio isn't quite gone yet, thanks to antivaxxers here and there. (nt) |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. It should be a personal choice |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Depends on the disease. With smallpox, "fuck personal choice" was a good decision. (nt) |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. San diego had an outbreak of measles because of unvacced kids |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Why, it was the *right* of those other parents to kill that baby! (nt) |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. What other part of your body |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Thats not the point |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
125. IT IS THE POINT |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Exactly! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
93. If you want to live out in the woods away from everybody else, fine. Don't get vaccinated. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. Yep, and if you make that choice, you also choose to stay away from the general public |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Why would you think that? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Because, if you read, |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
94. Because this is basic Biology 101 stuff. |
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Beacho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
90. Endangering other people or the public at large is not a right |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. But when there is an outbreak CDC goes into the are and a mandatory |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. The CDC only has jurisdiction over five percent of the planet's populace |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. So now |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Wow, let's see what else you can lie about me saying. This should be fun. (nt) |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I find it strange |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. your choice |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Shift them goalposts! Load that language! (nt) |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. No, the UN has that authority |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
82. The "UN" actually does not exist as a unified structure |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Thought they were part of the UN |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. There are only 5 "organs" of what people know to be the UN |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Yes but what about a world dominating garage sale? |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I'm sure you'd be the first one |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #92 |
105. And your a parrot |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Hey... as a proud mother of two feathered children |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
76. The WHO has been very successful with mandatory world wide vaccines |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. They always turn to being about all vaccines |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #41 |
97. Realize in Mexico you want to send your kids to school |
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Beacho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
99. The CDC doesn't have any jurisdiction over anyone |
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lefty369 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
127. Should be manditory and likely will be soon |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fair's fair. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. Other countries |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. In other countries |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Oh, so your saying |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. No I'm saying |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. But they have the choice.. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Oh, they may have a choice |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. You sure like to exaggerate |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I do? |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Yes you do |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. When were you a kid? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
120. In the UK, vaccinations are not mandatory |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. Great for Big Pharma |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. "Big Pharma" |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Oh? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. The gov'ment told them to make it |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. And you don't think |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. How many people in the US? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. "at cost" largely precludes any real profit, so probably not. (nt) |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Actually, even the new ones. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Even 7% |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. LOL |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. How many people in the US |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I'm saying that |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. you have to be freaking kidding me |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
103. I'm saying that you are believing in a risk that is negligable... |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. Yeah, those money-grubbing fiends, selling something that results in fewer expensive hospital stays |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
27. Who is financing the web site you linked to? They SELL health insurance there! |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I hope you're right |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Here's the point |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Though with the drinking issue.. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. You're wrong |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Why? |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. What if under the next |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Because |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 01:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
114. Did you hear there are death panels too?!!!! I am series!!!!!! |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
42. So..its ok to let people die if their shots are not current? |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Exactly! |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. How many people will die |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. If it's a choice |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. *BECAUSE* |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. So I guess you will volunteer to be first with all the new shots :) |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. So people should |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. so yes...I would say your "extrapolating" all right ...and making crap up too. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. You put others at risk |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. You go ahead and give up your choices |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Well then, |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #64 |
111. I apoligize for trying to communicate with you...my bad. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #62 |
117. There are some adults who cannot take some vaccines. |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. It makes me one of the people that CANNOT take the shots... |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. at any given time...there are many children in the public NOT inoculated against everything... |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. San diego had an outbreak of measles because of unvacced kids |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. according to you..that baby should have been vaccinated already. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. No, I just read |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. I will spell it out for you real slooowly so you can understand... |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. I don't believe that |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
100. Yep, what do you think Area 51 is for SHEESH |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #83 |
119. aliens? where the hell did you get aliens out of this conversation... |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. And I will add |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Another person for overturning the indoor smoking laws |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
96. Do you think the UK government is in on it as well? They're having outbreaks too among unvaccinated |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #66 |
98. Also, the vaccination schedule for measles has the first shot between 12 and 15 mos. So baby would |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
121. Young babies cannot be vaccinated against some diseases. Many vaccines don't work for small babies |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Do what you want with your body |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. No, I read |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
101. Here is a free clue |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. I agree |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
108. Given those of us in public health understand |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
67. People don't have a right to be Typhoid Marys. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. The government |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Then I guess we should never have medical quarantines, either! |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Or health and safety acts in general. (nt) |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
95. Yep some folks REALLY want to go back to 1775 |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
102. Is this a trustworthy source? |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. I'm having that same problem. |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
104. I don't like Mandatory anything... |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. If it comes to an epidemic |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-06-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #104 |
131. I agree - except in extreme cases, vaccines should be universally available, not compulsory |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
110. Has anyone even bothered to fact check this? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Of course not |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
112. Oh my god! from an insurance companies website no less |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. But, see, it reinforces their personal opinions, therefore the source doesn't matter! |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
115. if you don't want to be a part of society then please go somewhere there is none. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Well that was a totally |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
123. Now *there's* an unbiased source with no likely profit motive! |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. LOL! |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
128. yeah lets see how that flies |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-06-09 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
132. Vaccinations need to be mandatory, sorry |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. a cow has no choice as to what the farmer sticks in their body.... |
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bralessforthelord (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
134. It's warm and fuzzy fascism...no more, no less |
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