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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 06:59 PM Original message |
How are the anorexic images of the fashion industry affecting |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Most Men like Women with a more Robust figure....or maybe I'm just speaking.. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Twiggy and Audrey Hepburn |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. apart from audrey's training as a ballerina, you do know why she was so thin? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Interesting. I didn't know this. n/t |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
70. Hepburn almost starved to death in WWII |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
74. British teens -- males and females -- in the 60's were thin because of malnutrition |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. in Second Life, one giveaway that a female avatar was created & is played by a RL guy |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Which reminds me. I heard of some research where they showed |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 05:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Short and curvy for the win! |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's not really a new thing. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I remember Twiggy very well, and that was part of my point. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The way I remember it is that she wore the swimming suit called the mono suit |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I blame Barbie directly, and I'm only half-joking. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. That distorted Ralph Loren image looked a lot like a Barbie. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Funny how that works, isn't it? n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. It has been around a long time. I read that 60% of the 4rth grade girls |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. In 1984??? If it was that high in 1984, imagine what it is now. Yikes! nt |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Here's a comparison of some models from the 60s and today. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. None of the women in your "today" shots are models |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. I always loved what Kevyn Aucoin said about Kate Moss.. |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 01:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I agree with you that many women are naturally skinny. One of my |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 05:14 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. That "healthy" model wasn't healthy after all. She was a cocaine user. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 06:07 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Still threre actually are naturally thin people |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Most "naturally thin people" aren't so thin they look like anorexics or drug users. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
63. I agree but some do not |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. With 2/3rds of Americans being over weight, anyone who is of normal weight would look anorexic. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Fashion models aren't normal weight by any standard, |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Lizzi Miller is considered "plus sized" |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. And that right there is a problem. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
86. Marilyn Monroe was a size 12 ... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-14-09 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. It has shown me how my tastes differ from the so-called fashion industry: |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
82. What are you doing tomorrow night? |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. you have to think about the huge industries this kind of image supports--the diet industry, for one |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Again, I'd love to recommend a single post |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 05:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Marilyn Monroe did not wear a size 14. She was tiny. |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 06:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. modern size 8-10 according to a quote on the Snopes page |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 07:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Exactly. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I can believe it was a 14, because she was NOT wearing modern dresses. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. I was speaking in terms of today's sizes. Actually, she was probably more likely a 6. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Marilyn's size varied over the years -- but, whatever size she wore, she was always CURVY. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. But you're comparing models with actresses. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
83. In the nekkid pic, she's got BIG thighs |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. No they weren't Xema. :-) |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. BIG= bigger than I've ever seen on any model |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. But she wasn't a runway model. She was an actress. There are lots of voluptuous actresses out there. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. She looks bigger than that size 12 model upthread: |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Her size varied over the years, but she was always lovely. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Definitely. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
77. It's not about "only tiny women are beautiful" at all. It's about the disconnect... |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
73. +10000 ... don't forget the gym and personal trainer industries n/t |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
89. I keep saying that Marilyn Monroe was a size fourteen |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. A 5'5" inch tall woman would have to weigh about 180 to fit into a 14 dress. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
23. This is odd |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
27. Just look at online diary sites like OpenDiary, Xanga, LiveJournal, etc. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
30. Its BEEN happening, |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
32. I think the world of high fashion is inhabited by people with serious issues. |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
34. Consider porn/nudie models, for instance |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
35. Perhaps it will help reduce obesity |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. I think it does the opposite. Bulimics are often overweight. n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. They're obviously not doing it right |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. There is no "right" way to be a bulimic. It is an extremely dangerous practice. n/t |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
78. LOL n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
37. wasnt 38 24 38 suppose to be the ideal. i heard it all the time growing up. dont |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. I remember 36- 24- 36 (from somewhere) |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Just ring 362436, I lead a life of crime! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Sir Mix A Lot too: "36 24 36? Only if she's 5 foot 3." (nt) |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. "Brick House" by the Commodors |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Yes... and gah... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. lol lol.... oh that. lol. nt |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
38. Weight has always been an issue for me |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. I'm glad your husband was so helpful to you in this. It sounds like you were |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. I married a great guy. |
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Ocracoker16 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Sounds like a good approach |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
46. Do you think having high self esteem is a helpful thing? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I was talking about healthy self-esteem, not the kind of false and/or |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. HOw can you measure one from the other? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. How can you tell apart shades of gray? It is a judgment call. And we need to |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. It is not a judgment call - it is a measurable thing psychometrically |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I am not in favor of falsely inflating self esteem |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. Self-respect is a very good term. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. According to many reports, there is a high amount of drug abuse |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
52. Women have to stop obsessing over their looks. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Yes -- I agree. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. and just watch the screaming hysteria when a celeb finally says "f*** you" to this mess--do you |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Well Tyra did it and she got a TV show. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Some actresses have already started. Models too. |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
79. At least 66% of the US is overweight. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
80. I remember reading something about designers like their models |
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EndersDame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
81. I have a model friend who was teased for being too skinny and no curves when she was growing up |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
85. It's not good. |
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