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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 11:56 PM
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Government programs that are successful tend to grow and are hard to get rid of
Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Head Start, AmeriCorps, SCHIP, the list goes on. All these programs started out as programs with a limited reach. They had their skeptics and opponents. People who said they would fail, but they were proven wrong. Instead, such programs endured for decades, and survived opponents' efforts to swing the budget ax at them. They were popular programs and more Americans wanted in. These programs grew, and legislators opened the doors for more and more Americans to participate (sometimes with Republican support too).

So think about this when we start hashing out a public option in Congress. It will likely be a more limited PO than any of us want. That's unfortunate, but I will predict right here that if it is administered well, it will grow and more Americans will be made eligible to participate.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:06 AM
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1. Hope you're right.
But Head Start is one of the most successful government programs ever - and it's shrinking, not growing. :(
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 02:29 AM
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2. Why get rid of a successful program?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 03:38 AM
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3. The National Park Service is another good example.
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 03:39 AM by lamp_shade
If you watched Ken Burns series you know what I'm talking about.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 06:28 AM
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4. One problem--it won't take effect until 2013
That leave four more years for the system to swirl completely down the drain.
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:05 AM
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5. All the more reason to avoid delay. [nt]
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:08 AM
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6. None of the public option proposals should pass at all for this reason
Just let everyone buy into Medicare voluntarily. That could be implemented immediately.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 09:50 AM
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11. That is the ultimate solution. I will go one step further and say that
Medicare should be made available to everyone who wants it. They already pay into it. Raising FiCA a couple of points would cover the extra expense. The administrative part is already in place. All that would be needed is hiring more people to handle the extra work load. Imagine that more jobs and a health care plan every American can rely on?
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:56 AM
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7. isn't that exactly why some republicans oppose it?
Because it might be successful?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 09:04 AM
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8. Yeah.. DAMN those successful government programs!
amazing
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 09:35 AM
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9. What if Baucus's final bill, the big corporate welfare one, is the one
that makes it? It will be successful for the health care industry. Will it grow and be hard to get rid of? I get a headache thinking of where this could go like maintaining the military since WWII. We can't seem to rein it in and stop the march to unnecessary wars because it became so successful at generating more wealth for the already wealthy.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 09:37 AM
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10. +1 nt
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:58 PM
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12. The repubs are terrified to open the PO door even a crack...
If given half a chance, businesses would shed employee benefits in a heartbeat and a public option would grow so fast it would make your head spin.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:50 PM
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13. --
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