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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 01:57 PM Original message |
I expect all the people that bashed Obama over torture prosecution to issue a mea culpa.... |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. They've already been posting "its not good enough", etc.... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:43 PM Original message |
Let's face it, for some anything that is done will never be good enough. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. We will see if they are going after anyone who matters, then I'll judge |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Your second sentence indicates you've already pre-judged to a degree |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes, I have. You are correct. My expectations are low. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Then don't spout off about how you'll "wait to judge"... you already have... and... |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. I'll spout off about as much as I fuckin' please |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 06:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
71. This could easily be theater |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 06:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
73. As have you... |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
82. Then That's On You Thom! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 06:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
68. Expectations |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. if nobody had raised hell about prosecution it probably would not have happened |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. +1, nothing happens without a LOT of pressure |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
64. EXACTLY!!! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 06:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
69. the ACLU has persued this for years |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
92. +1 |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. It seems quite the opposite is happening.... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
41. What's vomit-inducing are torturers |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. What is vomit-inducing to me is the crowd where nothing done by the Obama administration is .... |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 06:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
72. I disagree. It's definitely too soon to call this a good thing. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. An independent prosecutor, especially with the background of the one chosen,... |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. You are right. It may yet turn out to be fruitful. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. I agree, a good dose of skepticism is healthy.... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. Depends on if this is a Lindy England investigation or not. nt. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. So... the "Lindy England" thing is the new talking point? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Yes I just got my memo from CP-USA HQ. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Actually you are worse than Repos. Will Cheney and bush be investigated? Woo? or is it |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. And if it was the "bashing" that precipitated this move? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. The bashing did NOT precipitate this move. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. These posters have wanted to axe Obama since the Iowa Caucus. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Really? All of us? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. "I hoped accountability on war crimes including torture would be part of the change I voted for" |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. "and you're actually bitching and moaning about it." - actually all moaning is from you. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Fine. For the record: Endarkenment is not "one of those posters" |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. One hair off a very broad brush. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. How about you're taking offense where it wasn't intended. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 06:33 AM Response to Reply #40 |
67. right - my fault, obviously no offense intended - my mistake - so sorry |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. You're the one who keeps responding. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. that was actually funny |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
16. I think you need to start a few more threads about this |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I don't have any other threads on this |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
18. C'mon |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Assigning a special prosecutor and starting an investigation is a "big nothing"... |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Well look |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. "This is a big nothing." Dag, the depths of stupidity, historical illiteracy and ... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'm running out of crow for these folks |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
23. Yoo, Addington, Cheney, Rumsfeld |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Not "mea culpa" for doing what is right... "mea culpa" for thinking Obama WOULDN'T |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. 'Seven months'? Is that how long you think |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. 7 months is how long they've been waiting ON OBAMA |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
24. The arc of history may be long |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. Deleted sub-thread |
mulhollanddriven (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. I disagree |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
30. Let's not pretend |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
33. Pathetic.....just pathetic. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. "Divisive and unproductive" |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
93. He's had a lot of practice. n/t |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
35. Why the hell do you think they're doing that? If everyone was a good little lapdog like you suggest, |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Oh right. Holder was reading DU and quaking in his boots |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Not DU, Critics on the left in general. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. take the fucking blinders off. You think DUers have been the ONLY ONES |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
42. if you think Bush, Cheney, Rove and the other top pigs are ever going to serve time, |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
43. I'll be glad to if they prosecute -- I'll be happy. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
45. FINALLY!!! They are going after Bush/Cheney/Etc!!! |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Not quite, unfortunately. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
46. They're either gonna say it's not good enough or totally ignore it. |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
47. I personally believe that everyone that works for the CIA |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
49. Let's see where this goes -- and how effectively . . . meanwhile, good SOMETHING is happening .. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
50. dupe |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
51. Also looks like Panetta was fighting this -- time for Panetta to move on????? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
52. Meanwhile Bagram AFB remains open for business, |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
53. Unfortunately Obama constantly has to be pushed into doing the right thing by the progressives in |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
55. You haven't read the news story, have you? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Aww, you're going to spoil his tantrum. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
56. You're more childish than anyone you're railing against. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
83. You Sure About That? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Yes, quite sure. |
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Romberry (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
57. Please do hold your breath |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
59. Holder's "preliminary review" is far away from any prosecution. |
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Krashkopf (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
62. Did you read your own clip? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. +1 |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
63. I won't hold my breath for JUSTICE...& this COMPLETELY IGNORES the bush* administration completely.. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
66. are you fucking kidding? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 06:42 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. true, this is Holder's deal nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
74. Durham's mandate, the sources added, will be relatively narrow: to look at whether there is enough |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
75. The mea culpa's in the mail... |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
76. Ah yes- such a pleasant thread |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. The mods could control this, if they wanted to. The OP posts nothing but this sort of thing. nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Wrong. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. 90% of the nastiness on this board is the work of only five or six posters. |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. This is a Democracy-At-Work-Zone. Unlike that messy FR site, |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
86. Hooray!!!!!! Lynndie England:CIA Version |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
88. It's Funny How When the Justice Department Defended DOMA, Everyone Screamed That Obama Had Nothing |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
89. Some people forget that Obama has been pretty busy since he took office |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
90. Obama changes his stance and you want people who were unhappy with the first stance to take blame? |
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