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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 04:51 PM Original message |
San Francisco to Consider Cat De-Clawing Ban |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. then they should also ban bobbing dog's tails and ears. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. I agree on all counts. We also have one cat who needed surgery but he kept his unaffected claws. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. and all pugs, bulldogs and other smushed nose breeds that have breathing problems. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Totally agree.... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
151. they certainly should |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
190. Absolutely agreed. I have a beautiful, pound adopted Soft Coated Wheaten |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #190 |
192. okay, i'll bite- why do you oppose the ban on declawing cats...? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. I'm not in favor of declawing but a ban isn't acceptable to me |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #193 |
195. the ban allows for medical necessity. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good! n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. I always thought declawing cats would confuse them... |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. From evidence researched in a number of areas |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. My cat is declawed and is a biter - it's her only defense |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 01:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
203. We had a cat |
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raincity_calling (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
147. My cat is de-clawed - sweetest little thing you can imagine |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #147 |
199. You're lucky |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
166. My best friend adopted a young stray declawed cat that he found a little over a year ago. |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #166 |
198. It's that way with most cats |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think declawing should be allowed on one condition. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Actually trimming the nails can sever the vain inside the nail |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Not really, if you mean the quick |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Agreed - I've trimmed cat nails for a good decade and not hit the quick. nt |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. It can, but only if the nails are cut too short. |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
100. I am very skittish about clipping our cats nails and won't do it |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
129. Yes it can. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #129 |
142. Realize that even if SF institutes a ban there would be exceptions for medical necessity. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
207. I've Been Trimming Kitty Nails For 30 Years. Never Even Close |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. I can not imagine what my furniture and my legs would look like |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. My furniture looks fine with 5 unmutilated cats |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:19 PM Original message |
+1 ...... - 4 unmutilated indoor cats here |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
30. 3 cats here, 6 others over the past 20 years |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
39. Yeah, all the ones I have had have been fine... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
141. Four here too. No problems. The EU has already banned paw mutilation |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
167. You must be a fan of Maru, the WonderCat with the bag on his head, |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #167 |
189. OMG. I'm *DYING* over here! That Maru looks JUST LIKE my Maru !! (pic) |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #189 |
197. Your Maru is beautiful! nt |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #167 |
202. You forgot one! |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:27 AM Response to Reply #202 |
204. Actually, I had never even seen that one. Thanks! It's |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I remember years ago, I had a wicker clothes hamper |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. 5 here as well... |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
35. Shelters are full of poor kitties |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
168. I train my cats with finger snaps. A snap, accompanied by a |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #168 |
175. exactly! nt |
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FarrenH (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Cats climb and grip things with their claws |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. I'm almost with you |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
66. The San Francisco SPCA and Pet's Unlimited, |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #66 |
154. You are certainly correct about the convenience part |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. Dumb..nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
73. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. It's "you're" and they use their front claws to climb |
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raincity_calling (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
148. I do not condone the practice however my cat has been |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
169. I mentioned above that I often take care of the stray declawed cat |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. No, it is not fine. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. I am quite educated thanks...nt |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Perhaps, but not about cat mutilation commonly known as declawing. (n/t) |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. My Cats are not Mutilated...but thanks for your concern.. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. And instinctual scratching proves what? |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Yes, they instictually stratch like normal...even without front claws.. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. But they can't scratch. I had a mastectomy and I sometimes get an itch |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
143. Yes they are. Just as surely as you would be, if... |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #143 |
170. Not the fingernails--the entire finger, up to the first knuckle. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
153. apparently not, based on your previous posts |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #41 |
159. Here's a start |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
200. I certainly appreciate |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
125. Become biters? |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. Depends on the cat, certainly. |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #125 |
161. Happened to one of my friend's cats. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
140. Get a scratching post and stop complaining |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
155. 1) Domesticated cats belong indoors. 2) My cats claw my stuff and I couldn't care less. nt |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
187. 2 indoor kitties here with claws |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. Banned in Great Britain. n/t |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. Declawing is inhumane and is banned or discouraged in nearly two dozen countries. |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. I showed this to my cat, Animal, and she said |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. How pretty! She looks just like my Chessie girl. :-) |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Thank you! |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
82. Wow, what a beauty |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
11. Sure, if they ban pit bulls, too! nt |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. This has been one of the most divisive topics |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. This is an excellent point. nt |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. we did it with mine for somewhat different reasons |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
150. He couldn't wear sleeves around her?**nm |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #150 |
174. It was his hands as much as his arms |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #174 |
183. Sounds to me like... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #183 |
184. We had compromises all around, for sure. |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #183 |
201. Funny |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
53. I agree that the place to start is |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I agree. I think most pet owners care for their pets and just |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Good points - education is always the key! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
79. I'd never even heard of soft paws |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. Against the practice for my own cats but a flat-out ban is going |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I see your point but should pet owners have rights that override those of the animal? |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I'm not sure how to attribute the difference in results. |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Still have reservations... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. My daughter has a friend whose finger was blown off 2 years ago. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. complete exaggeration... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. "Declawing" is amputation of the cat's toes to first knuckle. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Bullshit... |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Jesus fucking christ. Yes it is. Know what the fuck you're defending. Google is your friend. |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. It is an amputation but I haven't personally seen the loss of functionality |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #64 |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Don't think you were talking to me but just in case... |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. So I would assume that you have not had them spayed or neutered either.. |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
90. Of course they are fixed! |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
103. Sorry, but you can not have it both ways... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. Deleted sub-thread |
hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #103 |
205. I don't want to butt into a private argument here |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
94. Fail. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Riiiiiiight, babycakes. Check my profile. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. And you know they were fine because they told you so. |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. I know they were fine because they walked just like cats with claws, |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. So, because the cats you, personally, observed seemed fine... |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. No. What I'm saying is that at least two indoor cats have had the procedure done |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. The procedure is the same for every cat. |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. I have cats with claws intact and although we do have scratching |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. I don't know why you assume that most cats live indoors in San Francisco |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #109 |
120. Well, I assume most cats live indoors in the city because in densely-populated areas |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #120 |
137. That is because you do not know the terrain of San Francisco. |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. Again, like I said, it's highly situational. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
188. Closing your mind to the facts does not alter reality. |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #54 |
157. It also affects the muscle in this part of the cat's paw. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
67. +1 and thank you...nt |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
20. I had a cat declawed once 30years ago |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. It should be banned |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
77. Cruel for a cat to be indoor? |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
104. Interestingly... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. Good! I won't even use a vet that performs the procedure. |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
37. When i mentioned declawing to him... |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
42. Barbaric. Cats are EASILY trained NOT to scratch the furniture |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
47. I bet it is still legal to cut off the tip of human baby's penises. nt |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Only on the males.... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina. nt |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Really? Many TG people will differ with you. |
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pyoom (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Oh, come on. That's just petty. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. So would some unfortunate amputees. nt |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
49. People who want to adopt a cat need to understand that it's a living, breathing creature |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. ... |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. That wasn't explained? |
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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. Agreed - many don't want to accept responsibilities of ownership. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
83. In regards to all the "De-clawing is cruel" crowd.... |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Can you explain the purpose of spaying and neutering? It is to decrease the number of cats killed. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Well to be fair neutering is castration. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. That's one way to perform a sterilization |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. What others? Male cats are castrated. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. Not implying. Can and are done. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. What exactly "can and are done?" |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #115 |
126. The stupid. It burns. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #126 |
132. The stupid. It does burn. What about |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Well, devil's advocate here, but declawing also decreases the number of cats killed. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
107. +1 Trotsky...thanks.. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #96 |
113. Not directly; if the cat doesn't exist, it can't be euthanized |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Sorry, didn't see the post where you said that. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
135. That's not completely accurate. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 07:24 AM Response to Reply #135 |
172. Uh, I think you've got that a little backwards. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
138. There are numerous ways to keep a cat from scratching without amputation. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 07:25 AM Response to Reply #138 |
173. Well sure in an ideal world. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #138 |
179. My cat has allergies so what he scratches is himself. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #85 |
131. FYI: You're wrong about the surgeons. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Hahahaha!!! |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Plus who said anything about not "altering" a cat |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. Your husband hasn't been castrated I hope? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. Aahh, just found that out. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
136. Vasectomy isn't a great option for an indoor cat because it |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. Find out what an orchidectomy is and get back to me |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Why don't you read how the procedure is done in animals. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. I obviously know far more about this than you do; you seem to be unaware of much |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. I provided a link and you just run your mouth. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Talk to yourself much, babycakes? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Hah? |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. I've supported mine. You run. Bless your heart. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. I personally don't think you have a clue about "many, many |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Bless your heart. I know you don't think. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Why don't you quit running your mouth and provide links |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. What are you babbling about? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Do you own any cats or dogs? |
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Hallie Burton (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #133 |
177. You might want to do yours |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #83 |
114. Keep trying to justify your cruel decision. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #83 |
144. Er, yeah. Humans legally have THEMSELVES sterilized, but it is NOT legal for |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #83 |
156. "psychical alteration" - you're a laugh riot!! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
91. Should those in favor of this be compelled to take in every clawed kitty? |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I feel as though I have ... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Me, too! |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #97 |
146. We currently have ten, down from twelve. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:18 AM Response to Reply #146 |
162. Yes! That's it! It's just stuff! |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #162 |
178. Maybe because it's DU and not "rate my space." |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
102. I agree that declawing is a questionable procedure |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
112. a barbaric practice |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
123. Our declawed Maine coon kitty can climb trees... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
145. I've read that claw damage is the #1 reason that cats get surrendered to shelters, or worse. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #145 |
158. how do you explain all of the declawed cats in shelters then? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:56 AM Response to Reply #145 |
165. You read that, did you? |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #145 |
180. Declawing didn't save my best friend's cat from the shelter. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
149. My 1 year old orange Tabby Daisy has her claws. She drives me crazy scratching our chairs but I |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:48 AM Response to Reply #149 |
163. That is so nice! |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
152. I thought humans were supposedly the more intelligent animal... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
160. Fine with me...as long as I can still have Tom...circumcised |
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LLStarks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
164. My uncle is a vet and works for Purina, he believes that front declawing is beneficial to cats. n/t |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #164 |
176. Belated Welcome to DU! |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #164 |
185. What is the benefit? |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #164 |
194. "Beneficial"?? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:39 AM Response to Original message |
171. Seems like you'd be tinkering with a cat's psychic myth thingy if you |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
181. Good ! |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
182. Good! Next they need to ban tail and ear docking in dogs. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
186. It is a barbaric procedure. I agree wholeheartedly... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
191. I had my cat declawed because of different reasons... |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
196. My Goldmine is declawed in the front. |
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206. Breaking: SF shelters overrun with unwanted cats. |
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