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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:08 PM
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There's gotta be a word for it ...
... we've been hearing a lot lately about businesses that play FOX on their TVs.

But, there's no word to describe this particular form of propaganda.

So, what say you DU? What is this kind of crap called?

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:10 PM
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1. KO nailed it -
Faux News.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:10 PM
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2. You answered your own question: it's crap. nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:16 PM
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3. I just wonder if Faux has deals with all these stores?
Like, we'll buy all your TV's if you show Faux exclusively.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:18 PM
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4. I thought I read the other day that McDonald's had such a deal. n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:21 PM
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5. If the deal is real...
There's a list somewhere;)
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:27 PM
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6. I suggest "Henhousing" n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:37 PM
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9. Nice. n/t
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:30 PM
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7. Fascism.
They might not be in control right now, but it is fascist. We are still fighting it. Make no mistake, This election did not make it go away.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 05:33 PM
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8. douchebaggery or
Edited on Mon Jun-08-09 05:35 PM by Catshrink
Hannitizing the News

O'Realism

Cavuting the News

Beckoning the News

Limpballing the News

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 06:10 PM
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10. Lowbrowing the News
I'd say. (My most recent novel featured a Super Villain called "Lowbrow" I based on Limbaugh).
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 07:54 PM
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11. Kick. n/t
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:04 PM
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12. I may not have a name but I have a cure...
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:09 PM
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13. I Would Call It "Improperganda"
Propaganda that unveils itself in the most improper settings.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:11 PM
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14. Ideological Hegemony, aka: The Matrix
Edited on Mon Jun-08-09 08:21 PM by kenny blankenship
Ideological Hegemony

Gramsci accepted the analysis of capitalism put forward by Marx in the previous century and accepted that the struggle between the ruling class and the subordinate working class was the driving force that moved society forward. What he found unacceptable was the traditional Marxist view of how the ruling class ruled. It was here that Gramsci made a major contribution to modern thought in his concept of the role played by ideology.

Often the term "ideology" is seen as referring simply to a system of ideas and beliefs. However, it is closely tied to the concept of power and the definition given by Anthony Giddens is probably the easiest to understand. Giddens defines ideology as "shared ideas or beliefs which serve to justify the interests of dominant groups" Its relationship to power is that it legitimises the differential power that groups hold and as such it distorts the real situation that people find themselves in.

The traditional Marxist theory of power was a very one-sided one based on the role of force and coercion as the basis of ruling class domination. This was reinforced by Lenin whose influence was at its height after the success of the Russian Revolution in 1917. Gramsci felt that what was missing was an understanding of the subtle but pervasive forms of ideological control and manipulation that served to perpetuate all repressive structures. He identified two quite distinct forms of political control: domination, which referred to direct physical coercion by police and armed forces and hegemony which referred to both ideological control and more crucially, consent. He assumed that no regime, regardless of how authoritarian it might be, could sustain itself primarily through organised state power and armed force. In the long run, it had to have popular support and legitimacy in order to maintain stability.

By hegemony, Gramsci meant the permeation throughout society of an entire system of values, attitudes, beliefs and morality that has the effect of supporting the status quo in power relations. Hegemony in this sense might be defined as an 'organising principle' that is diffused by the process of socialisation into every area of daily life. To the extent that this prevailing consciousness is internalised by the population it becomes part of what is generally called 'common sense' so that the philosophy, culture and morality of the ruling elite comes to appear as the natural order of things.

Marx’s basic division of society into a base represented by the economic structure and a superstructure represented by the institutions and beliefs prevalent in society was accepted by most Marxists familiar with the concepts. Gramsci took this a step further when he divided the superstructure into those institutions that were overtly coercive and those that were not. The coercive ones, which were basically the public institutions such as the government, police, armed forces and the legal system he regarded as the state or political society and the non-coercive ones were the others such as the churches, the schools, trade unions, political parties, cultural associations, clubs, the family etc. which he regarded as civil society. To some extent, schools could fit into both categories. Parts of school life are quite clearly coercive (compulsory education, the national curriculum, national standards and qualifications) whilst others are not (the hidden curriculum).

So for Gramsci, society was made up of the relations of production (capital v labour); the state or political society (coercive institutions) and civil society (all other non-coercive institutions).

Gramsci's analysis went much further than any previous Marxist theory to provide an understanding of why the European working class had on the whole failed to develop revolutionary consciousness after the First World War and had instead moved towards reformism ie tinkering with the system rather than working towards overthrowing it. It was a far more subtle theory of power than any of his contemporaries and went a long way to explain how the ruling class ruled.

Now, if Gramsci was correct that the ruling class maintained its domination by the consent of the mass of the people and only used its coercive apparatuses, the forces of law and order, as a last resort, what were the consequences for Marxists who wished to see the overthrow of that same ruling class? If the hegemony of the ruling capitalist class resulted from an ideological bond between the rulers and the ruled, what strategy needed to be employed? The answer to those questions was that those who wished to break that ideological bond had to build up a ‘counter hegemony’ to that of the ruling class. They had to see structural change and ideological change as part of the same struggle. The labour process was at the core of the class struggle but it was the ideological struggle that had to be addressed if the mass of the people were to come to a consciousness that allowed them to question their political and economic masters right to rule. It was popular consensus in civil society that had to be challenged and in this we can see a role for informal education.

Overcoming popular consensus, however, is not easy. Ideological hegemony meant that the majority of the population accepted what was happening in society as ‘common sense’ or as ‘the only way of running society’. There may have been complaints about the way things were run and people looked for improvements or reforms but the basic beliefs and value system underpinning society were seen as either neutral or of general applicability in relation to the class structure of society. Marxists would have seen people constantly asking for a bigger slice of the cake when the real issue was ownership of the bakery.


Ideological Hegemony is not something that just creates itself. It has to be attended to, fostered, policed, and heavily promoted. That's what is behind the preference for FOX News on TVsets belonging to corporations large and small. It's not that they want to watch FOX News all day long, it's that they want YOU to watch it and grow accustomed to thinking of it not only as the voice of authority, but a voice as pervasive as daylight.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:29 PM
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18. Great post! Thank you! (nt)
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:15 PM
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15. There's a German word,
commonly used for all sorts of indoctrination by media: Meinungsmache .
Literally translated, it means opinionmaking = the deliberate manufacturing of widely held opinions.

Maybe 'opinionfoxing' could become a household word if some influential people start tossing it around.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:20 PM
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16. I like these too. Thank you for posting. n/t
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:24 PM
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17. Ambient brainwashing.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:34 PM
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19. I like this one too! n/t
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:51 PM
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20. foxbait: for those who won't think or read
Here's a link to the tidbit about McDonald's and Fox Entertainment Division.

http://www.newschannel10.com/Global/story.asp?S=10353076

I also read that many businesses purchase basic cable and Faux is often the only cable news channel included with basic cable. I don't know how true that is, however.




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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 05:36 AM
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22. I woke up thinking about this....
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 05:38 AM by OneGrassRoot
and I liked foxbait as a term to label their particular brand of propaganda, so much that I got the domain foxbait.com.

Foxbait: Luring small minds; controlling with fear


There are several "boycott Fox" sites out there, btw. Faux' viewer numbers have to be inflated, just as Limbaugh's numbers are manipulated.

My personal hope is that watching Faux News will be socially unacceptable and generally ridiculed. The hardcore base will continue, and be emboldened as Faux and their heroes are exposed, but hopefully the fence-sitters will see the light and start to READ and not depend upon TV news for facts.


:)


Edited for clarity; as usual, not enough coffee :)
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:27 AM
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23. "Foxbait: Luring small minds and making them smaller."
"Opinionfoxing The Great Unwarshed Since 1984!"
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:29 AM
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24. Isn't that the truth?! LOL n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:53 PM
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21. Nazi sympathizers
That's the way I think of these fools.
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Sigh Sister Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:32 AM
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25. Sheep feed n/t
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:38 AM
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26. "Capitalist Rhetoric"
It's all about the benjamins baby.
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