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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 02:45 PM
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There are three reasons why people (Republics) are freaking out about Sotomayor's one sentence
Edited on Sat May-30-09 03:24 PM by EFerrari
out of a ten minute speech about diversity on the bench where she has the temerity to say that a Latina might have something special to offer because she brings first hand experience with discrimination to discrimination cases:

1. They hate hearing that minorities have their own, different experience in America because difference challenges their authoritarian world view simply by being different. These are the same people who still resent the fact that women are allowed to drive and to vote.

2. They are afraid their own bigotry will be turned back on them because reciprocal punishment is fundamental to their binary thinking and so, naturally, what they expect from brown people. If there were no left wing in this country, the right wing would have to invent it in order to have someone to project their poison all over. (Oh, wait . . .)

3. They want to shut down the discussion, ironically a speech entitled "A Latina Judge's Voice", because it disrupts their idea of America where all the girls are blond and all the men are in charge and power always speaks in the same voice -- which sounds a little like Charleton Heston to them, presumably.

And the Republics are playing these fears and hatreds like a violin. They've taken the same gesture that mentors speaking to college classes always make to their audience -- Yes, you have something to offer -- and have twisted it into the monster under the American bed. Rarely do we get to see such a fulsome racist reaction to the empowerment of women or minorities whipped up so transparently by the party who is barely surviving on rumors of leprous illegals and Obama's birth certificate.

I hope this judge kicks their @ss once she gets on that bench.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 02:48 PM
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1. 4. She wasn't nominated by a Republican president.
This also covers reasons 1 thru 3.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 02:50 PM
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2. Exactly. The 1-3 is just how they get people to freak out like
someone is coming for their wimin and wallet.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 02:52 PM
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3. But E, they'll take our jobs!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:06 PM
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7. I'm not sitting on the Supreme Court, so I'm pretty safe!
lol

:)
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:51 PM
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26. Funny thing is, she was. The first time, anyway.
Those GOPers with balls should be getting in line with the Dems to have a good, mainly centrist judge on the bench, saying if she was good enough for Bush I, she's good enough now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 04:15 PM
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32. But wouldn't that require summoning a memory, which is the opposite
of getting people to fear what is before them immediately?

The Republican "party" has no interest in having their base activate their experience, either. :)
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 02:53 PM
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4. A Very Good Analysis, Ma'am
"Your fear of someone is the measure of the wrong you have done them."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:09 PM
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10. Could Obama have made a more provocative choice?
I think not. Good for him!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:19 PM
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13. Well I think he could have.
Good that she's a latina, that's for sure. But I have come to believe that she is actually a centrist and I was hoping for someone more to the left to help counter Junior's right wing appointments.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:21 PM
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14. It's hard to know what happens after she gets the seat.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:38 PM
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16. Yes that's true.
Don't want to rain on the parade. I am certain she will be confirmed anyway. Let's have this discussion another day, OK?

Peace, it's still a good idea.

:hippie:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 04:01 PM
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30. I'm not Miss Cleo but I bet Sotomayor will not be a disappointment.
It's hard to see how anyone who doesn't position them self as a centrist would expect to get ahead in this climate.

I don't know very much about her but do remember my aunt talking about her about 15 years ago. My Aunt Grace never made it to law school, she was an immigrant and there was no time, let alone money, for that. But, she did the next best thing and became the first official Spanish interpreter for the city and county here in the courts. Sotomayor reminds me of Grace -- whom you'd need a tank to shake once she felt she was on firm ground. lol

We'll see. :)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:18 PM
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33. May I add ...
"and the power they have or may obtain."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:20 PM
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35. Yes. And in addition to just being a fine choice for the Court
this was a brilliant choice by Obama because the bait was irresistible to the Thuggery.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 09:29 PM
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46. Hmm. I had not thought about that angle. Good point.
Edited on Sat May-30-09 09:29 PM by spooky3
I do find it ironic (and quite typical of the right wing) that at the same time they sling outrageous amounts of mud at Sotomayor, they also claim that everyone will tiptoe around her, handle her with kid gloves, etc., because she is not a white non-Hispanic male. Given how they treated H. Clinton, this is deja vu.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 02:58 PM
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5. One explanation for all three reasons you give. They are bigots. n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 02:59 PM
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6. Verdad.
Edited on Sat May-30-09 03:01 PM by Bluebear
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:55 PM
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27. I think the fastest way to make their brains explode is just to chant a list
of minorities. The next battle in the War on Christmas, let's rewrite The 12 Days. :evilgrin:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:06 PM
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8. Powerful points, but what really struck me was your little throwaway line...
"If there were no left wing in this country, the right wing would have to invent it in order to have someone to project their poison all over. (Oh, wait . . .)"

Any country in which the right can get away with portraying the likes of Obama, the Clintons, and Sotomayor as "far left" clearly has no functioning left wing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:11 PM
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11. I think we're missing the boat. We should just start talking as if
what we want is already true. The War on Terra is over, Bush is going to jail, universal health care has been a long time coming. :shrug:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:38 PM
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15. Be careful, EF
Edited on Sat May-30-09 03:39 PM by omega minimo
Don't wanna get tarred with the co-creative brush....... :yoiks:


Hey, I've got one! It's the 21st Century!!


kR
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:41 PM
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19. When we do it, it's just New Age positivism.
:rofl:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:43 PM
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20. Like I say
watch out for the haters. They mean business. :hide:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:44 PM
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21. LOL!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:07 PM
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9. Just like their criticism of The Magic Negro - they've got nothing else.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:14 PM
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12. And they're losing Latino and women's votes every day while they do this.
Yes!
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:38 PM
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17. They can't stand seeing hispanics getting ahead in life......
or anyone who is'nt white for that matter.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:40 PM
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18. I think that Republicans don't like to see ANYONE else getting ahead.
And that includes their own family. Creepy.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:47 PM
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23. Crabs in a barrel... n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:48 PM
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24. That's perfect. Must be what it is like to grow up with people like that. n/t
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:19 PM
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34. bingo
my parents were/are rethugs. Sabotaged my sisters and I in every way that they could. They honestly couldn't stand to see us do as well as they did, never mind better. Total assholes; they crap all over everything.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:23 PM
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36. I'm very sorry you had to go through that.
At least when we're grown up, we can recruit people to be in our "families" who know and can do better.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:24 AM
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48. Sounds like my friend's father. She's an attorney.
She was in high school; came home from school and told her dad, "I just got nominated for a National Merit Scholarship; I'm going to Rice University".

What did daddy do??? Beat hell out of her, of course. Because she was going to LEAVE. And this guy was a union refinery worker. Ignorant redneck, but a Democrat. This girl's grandparents were personal friends of Norman Thomas.

And her sister was in dental school, and they didn't tell daddy that sister was in dental school until she was nearly finished. Daddy thought that she was in dental hygienist school.
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:45 PM
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22. Their effeteness rises to the top.
Those voices of anglo hatred are the last of their tribe. What used to be considered "mainstream" long ago passed to effeteness. Sabes, unable to reproduce anything but itself, and at that, poorly. I regret Sotomayor not standing tall and behind her words. Better, yes. "Difference not deficient" is a sound argument when assessing language competency, politically it's salve for wounded ethnocentric pride. Of course she should have said "better". "Better" precisely defines the judicial insights of a Sotomayor. Ironically, better for our civilization, better for Unitedstates justice, better for the racist assholes, too. Ironic because this brown woman is giving those hating pendejos a lesson in democracy, ironic because their angry war chants reveal their true nature for reasonable people to judge and repudiate.

I love a good affront in the morning. It smells of . . .




ate,
mvs

recommended
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:51 PM
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25. These people are more barren than the lunar landscape.
But I hope they continue -- because this course will end them eventually.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:56 PM
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28. Excellent analysis! k+r, n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:39 PM
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41. Do you notice that Newt Gingrich keeps telling people to resign,
Nancy and now Sonia?

Pretty safe for him, he has nothing to resign.

lol
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 08:14 PM
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45. He's like the boss no one hired! n/t
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:58 PM
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29. Your post inspired me to look up
the entire speech. Accusing her of racism is a dull-headed exercise in taking a sentence or two out of context. It is not that hard to read the preceding and following paragraphs to accurately place where from where she is coming. http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Berkeley_La%20Raza_2002.pdf

Just the paragraph containing the words in question is enlightening enough to summarize the message she is presenting. Your third option of attempting to shut down the discussion by using Racism as a thought-terminating cliché is correct.

Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural
differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge
Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our
judging. Justice O'Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and
wise old woman will reach the same conclusion m deciding cases. I am not so sure
Justice 0'Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line
to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the
statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a
universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with
the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion
than a white male who hasn't lived that life.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 04:03 PM
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31. Thank you.
:)
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:28 PM
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37. The unempathic have no feelings; they have emotions and feel things, but cannot feel for others.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:30 PM
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39. And people mistake empathy for sympathy all the time.
Thanks for the link.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:30 PM
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38. I have been so disgusted with the verbal feces these clowns having been
throwing at her. Not only is it racist and sexist, it reminds me of the time Hillary Clinton spoke of a vast right wing conspiracy, which she turned out to be right about. Remember how she was endlessly derided about what she said. I think they dost protest too much like they did with Hillary.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:31 PM
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40. It's so obviously about them and not her. Just as it was with Hillary.
They only know one trick. :shrug:
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 06:34 PM
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42. It's the only straw they have to grasp. (nt)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 06:46 PM
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43. They've been palming this thing since Nixon was against busing
Edited on Sat May-30-09 06:46 PM by EFerrari
and Goldwater was against the Civil Rights bill and since Raygun went to dog whistle states' rights in Philadelphia, MI in 1980.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX_eTDP-CSg
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:36 PM
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44. What, bigotry? Their stock in trade?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:53 PM
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47. That's what Gene Robinson says, too:
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:48 PM
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49. "she brings first hand experience with discrimination to discrimination cases:"
This is the point the MSM neglects, the context. She was not saying a Latina would make for a better judge, but would have a keener insight to make wiser decisions regarding discrimination cases, just as a white male judge would have a keener insight than a Latina when it comes to cases involving country clubs. Who could argue with either?

In fact, later on in the speech she clarifies somewhat saying white males can and have made the right decisions in discrimination cases but the need to work harder to gain the required insight she came by naturally as a result of her background.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:00 PM
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50. Context is EVERYTHING!
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:19 PM
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53. That speech is a very finely crafted piece.
And of course people like Tancredo exploit that because they know most people won't bother to read it or to understand it.
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:07 PM
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51. And reason #4...
... they are freaking out, because they have been told to freak out. Most don't think for themselves. If Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck freak out about anything, then they too will follow.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:20 PM
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54. Good point! Lemmings. n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:08 PM
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52. Here's another:
Because it's TRUE!!! :rofl::evilgrin::rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:20 PM
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55. LOL! Well, I KNOW Latinas make better judges but I was just trying to be nice!
:rofl:

:pals:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:45 PM
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56. Here's a comprehensive summary of the proceedings from Think Progress
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:59 PM
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57. Kick.....
:kick:
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