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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:10 PM Original message |
Holy cow, Rachel... |
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Parker CA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. She's speculating on many levels. She's comparing this to Minority Report. She's |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Its not complicated. You either have evidence to charge someone |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. There's also western basis for holding dangerous people for prolonged lengths of time |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. What military do all these detainees belong to? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Well now that's the problem, isn't it? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. What is the problem? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Wrong on the mentally disturbed. Hearings have to be held in a court of law. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You have hearings, but you don't charge them with crimes or jury trial. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. People can be hospitalized for X amount of time, via a Dr.s recommendation. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. How can you keep prisoners of war if the war is never going to end |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. True. |
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Blue Meany (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. I expect that just about anyone held under those conditions |
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votingupstart (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:38 PM Original message |
Evidence - what standard |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. +1 |
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Blue Meany (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Yes and if you strongly suspect that they are terrorists but |
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Parker CA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. In these cases the issue is often that evidence has been tainted due to the manner in which it was |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. When the hell did criticizing the president |
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Parker CA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. My choice of words is my choice of words, the point is not that critique should not be allowed. I |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thank God someone is calling him on it nt |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. She's way off base over it. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. I hope this is the case. As much as I find this disturbing, I still have trust in Obama. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. They can be held as prisoners of war in humane surroundings |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. its an occupation not a war nt |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
20. DavidSwanson had a good thread earlier today |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
22. All I know is I'd hate to be one of the innocent ones. They're never getting out. /nt |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. "Guiltless convicts"? I have to wonder how unconstitutional Obama would be willing to go. |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. But how can we know if they're innocent or not? |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Maybe the question should be whether they're civilians or enemy combatants. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
24. CCR spokesman |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-21-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
26. Did I miss something today? Perhaps I should go back an read Obama's speech, but I thought |
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