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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:09 PM Original message |
What was Pelosi supposed to do after she was briefed in 2002? |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. See this thread: "CIA (Letter) Admits That Info About Torture Briefings For Dems May Not Be Accurate |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. yeah, it is fishy |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. "Cheney Sleeper Cells" = didn't Seymour Hersh report something about that? |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
134. Anyone who thinks BUSH told Pelosi the truth, while LYING, LYING, LYING, is an idiot! |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
150. personally, I would have told. Jail or no, I would have told and since |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
171. of course, the repigs are targeting her, I don't hear much talk |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. That would be Number One. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. You realize that over 50% of the American public supports torture NOW, let alone what they suppored |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Great Isn't It??? |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. amazingly, yes |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. How is that germane to the third Geneva convention? |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
91. 50% support it now because no on stood up against it, its been normalized |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. They also support it because they think the "terrorists" deserve it |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
120. Back when she was being briefed nobody in those numbers thought that. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
135. Bull Shit, and you know it! |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #135 |
156. Huh? I looked it up and it does seem to be |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #156 |
165. Links? |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-10-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. Go to pollingreport.com You'll find all sorts of polls on just about any topic including torture |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Links to back up your statement?? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
151. so, fuck em. some things you die for and this is one of them. if you |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. Folks really don't 'get' this point. They don't understand the responsibility of knowing... |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. I believe folks DO get the responsibility of "knowing"... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. One person does not have the right to declassify information. It's that simple. nt |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Well, that's true, but it's not what I refer to... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I understand you now. Thanks. nt |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. No problemo, Captain! |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
153. even when its criminal? What about the camps bush was supposed to |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
152. if they had told her that they were putting people into camps and |
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BulletproofLandshark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. In her shoes, I'd like to think I'd speak out. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. Here's a suggestion: DON'T LIE ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW IS GOING ON |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. Number 1. |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. What she should have done is not taken Impeachment off the table.... |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. She needs to be out in front |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Entered it into the Congressional Record (ala Pentagon Papers) |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. If you remember, they DID try to do that, but McCain backed out and they took it out of the bill. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
167. the winding road that is John McCain -- his silence since the release of the memo is precious...no? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Exactly. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
72. Bingo. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
125. That was my first thought when I read the question. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
154. agreed, BR_Parkway |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. Thank you for this well-thought-out post. n/t |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
14. Well if she was told then she shouldn't of said she was never "let me repeat" |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. There's a lot she could have done. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Hmm |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
50. # 2 is really good |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. and she should have put impeachment on the table. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. There were already reports of abuse and torture in the Arab press |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. Impeach. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
17. There is a difference between |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
155. evil cannot continue without the silence of others. she is evil and if |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. Remember Pentagon Papers? A congressman or senator, can read anything into the Congressional record. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Now that is a good point. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. Intelligence information has its own rules. nt |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
77. No it doesn't. You simply cannot punish a member of Congress for reading something into the record. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
92. Yes, it does have special restrictions. Individuals are not permitted to decide to reveal |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. The executive branch can maintain that the information is restricted. |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
21. none of the above - she didn't do anything because she agreed |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
22. I think this argument is pretty weak. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Well, it does imply that, but as you state, you don't really know. |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I'd be the last person to throw any of our congressional leadership off the bus. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. No, not at all far-fetched. |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Fair enough. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Oversight without the power (or will) to intervene is not oversight. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. not arguing with you there |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. What Pelosi did or didn't do comes down to means and ends. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
157. she never will because she is culpable. she could face jail herself |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. Yes |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Yep, it's disgusting. And those of us following this issue who |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Yes |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
158. either side, anyone, all of them, go to jail. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. Yep. Perfect summary. There is no other argument. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. protest privately |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Yes, he did. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
159. actually, you can exercise true leadership and blow the lid off. that is |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
36. 1. Speak About It In Public and Risk Being Thrown In Jail |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Or she could have leaked it like a real professional. n/t |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. *snort* |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. It's possible that she did. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. The story first came out of the Arab press and then it was picked up |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Abu Ghraib? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. The reports of torture at Abu Ghraib started circulating almost immediately |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Okay. But that raises the question of which torture we're talking about, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I don't see any evidence that "rogues" were responsible for torture |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Yes, of course it was all the same program, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. BushCo started torture almost immediately after 9/11. |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. What they did and what they briefed Pelosi on are two different things. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. That's right. The issue of what Pelosi knew is a red herring |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #47 |
107. In terms of US Newspeople, Abu Gharib was first uncovered by Mary Mapes, who |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
38. She should have tried to slip a limitation on the funding for that |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Do you understand how the CIA is funded? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
88. Outrageous. I did not know this. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
89. Gotta have that "deniability". |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
52. She's supposed to defend the Constitution. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Like in the oath she took. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
55. interesting post a DailyKos dealing with this issue: |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
58. Chris Matthews is talking about what she knew right now... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
61. The Cheney admin had no intention of telling Dems all of what was going on... |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
64. Well.... |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Maybe she did. |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. At that time, it was practically TREASON to even suggest.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. And that's exactly when the American people need their leaders to stand up. n/t |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Agreed. But the Dems have never been known for their... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. It's a mistake to say Democrats aren't known for their backbone. |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I disagree. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Yep. Were Franken a Republican, he'd already be sworn in |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. You're right. nt |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #70 |
160. and that is when you step up. That is when leadership is required. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
76. Stand up on the floor of the house and say "Bush is torturing people". |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Anyone want to speculate on how long it would have taken... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. So what? |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Not true. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Article I, Section 6: |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. "except Treason" |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Actually no it doesn't |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Exactly. |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. I can read just fine - I disagree with what you think it means and... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #99 |
122. From your Cornell source, further down: |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #122 |
127. What Is Particularly Cute About That Decision, My Friend |
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YankmeCrankme (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #127 |
137. I may be wrong, but I think an illegal act cannot be deemed a state secret. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. A State Secret, Sir, is What The State Says It Is |
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YankmeCrankme (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #138 |
164. I don't think that is correct. Truth2Tell posted info on executive order 12356 |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #127 |
139. That is a cute decision, Sir. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #139 |
144. And Being Aware Of My Bent Towards The Pragmatic, My Friend |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Yes Sir. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. Have you seen this drivel Sir: |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. No, Sir, It Had Escaped Me |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. You too Sir. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Always Hated 'To Kill A Mockingbird', Sir.... |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #122 |
128. I'm not a Constitution law expert... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #128 |
141. It is a blanket immunity for speech in the exercise of their legislative duty. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
161. and so we ignore evil because the fuckers might yell about it? Is that |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
80. If you believe the policy was wrong, then don;t defend Pelosi |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. If you believe the policy was wrong, |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #82 |
108. It's not a tactic from the right, it's holding our own party up to standards |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Anyone who broke the law should be held accountable... |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #116 |
166. I agree. In no way, shape or form |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
90. Whatever it takes. Including speaking out about it. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
96. Place the interests of the country above her self-interest. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
97. two things |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Is there a process by which she would go to the USSC |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #100 |
111. Yeah there are ways that she could have gone to the USSC |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #111 |
117. I don't know the answer. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #117 |
143. The answer is honor |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
102. I think she should have had a big steak dinner, gone home, and taken a warm soothing bath. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
103. How about... PUT IMPEACHMENT ON THE TABLE |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:22 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. I believe she knew they didn't have the votes. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. You can't pardon your way out of impeachment |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. You're kidding yourself if you think that's not exactly what... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #112 |
123. Seriously, it's, like, written down and everything |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. Huh? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. I've been more than patient, but you need to actually *read* posts before you respond. |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. You're condescending because you can't back up the right-wing... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. I'll let my posts speak for themselves |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
104. Abu Gharib n/t |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
105. I am not a big fan of Pelosi - but I hear you and agree. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
110. just what she did... |
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ControlledDemolition (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
113. By 'briefed' do you mean an 'enhanced briefing'? n/t |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
114. She was supposed to speak up for those individuals who were not as strong, nor as well protected as |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Sure, but we haven't really gone THERE yet,... |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 02:20 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. That is so fucking wrong. Get them all at the same time lest some of them run to |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. I'm sorry, but you're WAY over the top. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #114 |
162. agreed 100%. she isn't a fucking bystander. she is there to LEAD. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
121. "Classified" is the last refuge of the scoundrel |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
124. She is 3rd in line to the Presidency. She is not powerless |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #124 |
131. What exactly did she know and what was the right thing? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #131 |
163. we can do two things at once and given that she was supposed to |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
126. 5. Vote AGAINST every lame-ass bill Bush & his pals proposed |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
130. Stand up for the truth? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
140. Speak up. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
142. After reviewing her interview with Rachel Maddow ... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-10-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
169. Here is what Congress did. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
172. wasn't Dennis Hastert the House majority Leader then? |
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