If it comes down to these two, who do you think has a better chance of winning the Presidency?

[Onlooker]

Poll question: If it comes down to these two, who do you think has a better chance of winning the Presidency?

[booley]

1. Problem is...

I am still hoping it doesn't come down to just these two.

Anybody else ever get the feeling that Obama and Clinton are the front runners only becuase of the media hype?

[depakid]

3. Hate to say it but

If it comes down to these two, there'll be a lot of people staying home.

[Lerkfish]

6. maybe that's the plan

you gotta wonder why the MSM and the republics keep touting these two.

[tbyg52]

8. Good point

(she said, donning her tinfoil hat). :tinfoilhat:

(Couldn't resist that, but I really do think you have a point.)

[DemBones DemBones]

31. I've thought the same thing.

I'm really tired of the MSM and the GOP telling us who we want as our nominee, who can win, who can't win, etc.

When I was in school, we were taught that the voters got to decide those things. When did that change?

[bdamomma]

62. since 2000.

[DemBones DemBones]

23. Agreed. nt

[kath]

13. yep, totally because of the media hype.

[RedCappedBandit]

2. Sadly I don't think either is the winner we need

[Annces]

4. Hillary

[laugle]

34. I think it will come down to Hillary and Edwards, provided there is no crisis w/Elizabeth. nt

[tbyg52]

5. I voted for Obama

because I really don't want back-to-back Bush/Clinton dynasties.

I'd rather have someone other than these two as well.

[Virginia Dare]

7. I'd take either one over anybody the repukes are running...n/t

[liberal N proud]

9. Could be Rudy and Judy Guliani

NOT!

[bemildred]

10. I don't think it will come down to those two. nt

[pampango]

59. You may very well be right. It is not hard to construct a scenario

in which both Hillary and Obama implode and someone else wins the nomination.

While I like Edwards, Clark, Gore et al as much as I do the front runners, I must admit a bit of reluctance to hope that the woman and the Black will be #1 and #2 in the polls for a long period of time, only to be taken out by a white male in the end. Call it white guilt, reverse male chauvinism (I made that one up), ultraliberalism looking for a "first" in the presidency or whatever, but I think it would be ironic if that happened.

I know that "this election is too important to take a chance", "no to dynasty", "untested", etc. I know that many have important policy, character and other issues with HRC and Obama. They have every right to support whichever candidate they choose.

[TwilightGardener]

11. I think it will come down to those two, unless Edwards wins Iowa

and gets the big mo'. And I pray to God it's Obama instead of HRC. I can't see him blowing it. He's been very smart on the campaign trail so far, despite his supposed lack of experience.

[rpannier]

12. I'm not sold on Obama yet

Has he ever been involved in a hard contested campaign?
He won his Senate against Alan Keyes in a year when my cat could have been elected as the US Senator in Illinois (provided she ran as a Democrat)
I'll be interested to see how cool he is under fire over the next year.

on note: I am registered in Illinois and I voted for Obama for Senate.

[Colobo]

22. I'm not sold on Hillary

and I don't think I'll ever be.

[rpannier]

58. For me it's not a matter of that

I'm still voting for Edwards.

But, can Sen Obama hold his own in a hotly contested Presidential election?

For all her faults, I know the HRC can give as good as she can take.

Is Obama that seasoned?

He's got a year. I guess we'll find out.

I'd still rather have Edwards though.

[Wwagsthedog]

14. Other

NEITHER!

[Neshanic]

15. Both will not.

[AshevilleGuy]

16. Neither. n/t

[MrSlayer]

17. Hillary has a slightly better chance but neither would win the office.

Wes Clark or Al Gore should be the nomineee.

[kiteinthewind]

65. I'm with you. Gore all the way! nt

[Quixote1818]

18. No question it's Obama. I have staunch Republican friends who like him

and HATE Hillary.

[Perky]

28. I am curious as to why your republican friends like him

I sense the same thing beleive it is genuine and I can't figure out if it is

a) he is the anti-Jesse, and provides atonement for the white man's burden
b) He is the anti-Hillary
c) He is the anti-Dubya
d) He is simply refreshing

[Colobo]

29. They like him for A, B, and D (I think)

[Quixote1818]

33. I have a co-worker who is pro-war, listens to Rush Limbaugh

but probably is not a big fan of Rush. This guy is certainly very conservative but a nice guy. I have heard him rip on Hillary and Bill Clinton many, many times! He doesn't like Tom Delay and thinks Delay seems corrupt. He lives in Grand Junction, CO which is typically very conservative.

Anyway, once day were were sitting in this apartment the company rents out for us and the news was on and they showed Obama and my co-worker just said he liked him and he seemed like a nice guy. I can't tell you anymore than that. I think that it just comes down to the fact that Obama seems like someone just about anyone would enjoy knowing and being friends with. He is just a very likable person to both Democrats and Republicans. He seems like the type of guy who EVERYONE would like in Hight School. He simply has star power!

I like Obama and Edwards out of the current crop. Would like to see Clark and Gore get in.

[laugle]

36. Could it be they think repubs could beat

Obama?

I think repubs are scared shitless of the Clinton's!!

[Colobo]

37. Nah... they know they can beat Hillary

[laugle]

48. You crack me up.....you're a die-hard.......

time will tell.........

My bets on Hill and Bill the "DYNAMIC DUO" because we need 2 president's!!

[Quixote1818]

38. No, this guy is a straight shooter type.

We don't talk politics much so he would have no reason to lie about it. He just said it when Obama came on the TV. It came across as a sincere statement. He simply said he "liked Obama" and thought he seemed like a nice guy.

[TwilightGardener]

42. My husband, who has been a Republican and is now an Indy, likes

Obama--same reason. Just seems like a smart, honest, nice guy to him.

[laugle]

45. I agree he is likeable,

but experience counts too!

[Quixote1818]

49. Too much experience can taint someone

I think someone young, uncorrupted and not burnt out on politics is the way to go. It seems the longer these people are in politics the worse they get. It's like an old Collage Basketball Coach who has lost the flame compared to a young coach who still has the fire.

[laugle]

51. I would agree with you in another time, but

we are in a very dangerous time, and foreign policy experience is necessary, IMO.

I am very impressed and happy that Obama seems to be inspiring alot of people, but he's just not ready yet for the presidency!

You have picked a winner, he will do great things......just not in 2208!

If he can continue to inspire people, gain valuable national/foreign policy experience, and be more specific on his own policy issues, he will have a winning combination in the future.

[MN ChimpH8R]

19. What's up with the hostility towards Obama?

:shrug:

He's a very bright guy, probably the best Dem public speaker since Mario Cuomo and seems to have supported reasonable policies during his time in the Senate.

I'm not committed to any candidate yet, but definitely like Obama and Edwards if neither Gore nor Clark is an option.

[Quixote1818]

20. I think most on DU like him

The people who chose to post are those who have strong feelings one way or another. If Edwards was up there you would see hostility toward him too.

[Raine]

21. Hillary...never

Obama...maybe but most likely in this country the voters will never elect either one of them.

[Quixote1818]

26. I don't know anyone who likes Hillary

Some might vote for her over a Republican but no one I know is just crazy about her. I think her support is soft and her numbers could drop fast. I think she is fine but nothing to get excited about and I don't see myself working for her unless it's a very close election.

[Colobo]

24. Obama will be our next president

He'll be the symbol of a new era in American politics.

[AtomicKitten]

25. Al Gore

[Colobo]

27. Is he running?

[etherealtruth]

30. My 70 year old mother has her heart set on one of the two of them ...

I don't think she cares which one.
She wants to see a person of color or a woman elected president in her lifetime (only a Dem, though)

[laugle]

39. Sounds like you have a very smart mother!

[adigal]

32. Al Gore or Wesley Clark, maybe Edwards

I don't think we win with either Clinton or Obama, unfortunately.

[BlooInBloo]

35. White trumps male in America - only an idiot or a liar would say different.

[UrbScotty]

40. One is divisive, the other is Obama (nt)

[natrat]

41. a black man elected prez in this country? sure

[TwilightGardener]

43. I'm guessing that's sarcasm. But how do you explain that he beats

or ties all the other white guys except Rudy in most polls? Hard to argue he's not electable.

[BlooInBloo]

46. Gee - I don't know - there's certainly no history of white people speaking nice...

... to black folks' faces, and then saying/doing something different behind closed doors/ballot booths.

Nope, no history of that at all.

I'm with you - I have NO idea how to explain that.

i LOVE the faux-pretend-innocent-ignorance that white folks so consistently express. And without even a HINT of a smile.

[TwilightGardener]

53. He made it to the Senate. There are black congressmen/women,

mayors, etc.--there have been for a while. They are maybe underrepresented, but they received white votes, all of them. And if the polls show him winning against a lot of opponents, there's no reason to assume the polls must be wrong--unless they don't fit someone's preconceived notions, that is.

[BlooInBloo]

55. ROFLMAO!

[Colobo]

44. So no black person should try to run and

people should not support him or her because nobody will wind up voting for him or her? What's up with that? How are things going to change if those who need to push for changes do not even believe they are able to do so?

[BlooInBloo]

47. Um, the person only answered the OP. All else is you making shit up.

[laugle]

52. Have you considered

the vote in southern states.

Brian Copeland who's black, filled in for Bernie Ward on KGO radio last week and doesn't believe Obama can win any of those states, due to his race.

D.L. Hugely on Bill Maher's show Friday basically said Obama couldn't win either because of the racism in our country.

People seem to be thinking about it, but they are not talking about it!

Do you feel it is a factor and one that should be talked about?

[natrat]

64. thtats the point--it should be talked about

i did not know he was polling that well- i am surprised
what gives me pause is the msm hype, which we all know is devious--maybe the pupetmasters pulling the strings will end up surprised also when obama beats out jeb and mit. Kind of alot to gamble though.

[dysfunctional press]

50. neither will, and we are doomed to lose if either one is our candidate.

i voted for obama for senator, but i'm not ready to support him as a presidential candidate- although i would most likely vote for him- but i still need to hear A LOT from him.

i don't see ANY scenario in which i would ever vote for hillary for ANY reason.

[MonkeyFunk]

54. either one would win

but I voted for Clinton, because she has the far more experienced team behind her.

[SPKrazy]

56. Boo!

can we have another two please?

:shrug:

[krispos42]

57. What if Obama signs on as Veep after Hillary wins the nomination?

Or if Hillary signs on as Veep after Obama wins the nomination?

Or if either one signs on as Veep after Edwards wins the nod?

How about if Obama changed his name to "Brock O'Bama" and ran as an Irish-American?

Okay, that last one was just to break the tension here! :-)

[robcon]

60. I think Hillary would win easily.

She's a great campaigner. I'm proud to have voted for her twice as my senator.

[bdamomma]

61. as much as I like Obama, I would like to see him as President

but others may not agree, especially the big corporations who would like to see one of their own thiefs in charge.

[w4rma]

63. Definitely not Hillary. But not Obama, either. So I picked Obama. (nt)

[WiseButAngrySara]

66. I picked Obama, but neither will win IMO. Edwards or Gore for me. n/t