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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:51 PM Original message |
"I don't get tenure on my job. So why should *teachers* ?" |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because teaching is a MAGICAL profession, where it's IMPOSSIBLE to measure performance! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. in this case, the problem is with the board |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. fuck that shit...if psychiatrists were paid per performance...they would be minimum wage |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Silliness. I love the profession. Just not the squatters currently inhabiting it. |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Thank you for your valuable input, Mr..........whatever. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Aren't there ANY good teachers? None at all? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Of course there are *some*. Durr. |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. There will be no academic freedom without tenure. |
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lynnertic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. because *teachers* who are in *unions* get a *say-so*. By the way |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Sorry about the link. It works on the GLBT forum. Lemme work on it. nt |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Thanks. Link fixed. What quote? nt |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
7. Because keeping less capable teachers is a lesser evil than political firings |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Strange. My experience is that administrators LIKE "less capable"... |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. assume for the sake of argument.... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. Duly noted. n/t |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. And the unasked question in response |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. There should never be political firings in any field. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. becausing teaching is in many ways like Civil Service |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Thanks. Tenure didn't just ".happen". There were ... and ARE... |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. The solution is to expand job security for more workers... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
21. So are you saying newly hired teachers should just automatically get tenure from Day One? |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. It takes three years to get tenure here |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
23. "Tenure" is a Myth Anyway |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. At what level of school is it a myth? |
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david13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. Tenure is so the professors are immune to the winds |
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