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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:20 PM Original message |
OK, point blank. Somebody has to say it: Professionals, Doctors (dentists, Veterinarians, Docs...) |
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. oh, I see. |
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natrat
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. just kidding,but they got to make a living too and some are jusat scraping by |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Some are. My doc's kids are in private school, |
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mr_hat
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Airwolf. |
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Giant Robot
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Is it bad that I can remember the names of the characters on that show? |
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Joe Fields
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
112. They should have called the show Cokewolf... |
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jody
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. "complete idiot"! I don't agree but he's making tremendous progress toward that goal. n/t |
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JFN1
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. I think the OP has it exactly right. |
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keepthemhonest
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
97. It's the insurance companies that are making out |
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JFN1
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #97 |
108. Then they are the exceptions |
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keepthemhonest
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Tue Jan-06-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #108 |
141. Others should offer discounts too. NT |
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rvablue
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #97 |
128. Alright, I read your argument, but how does my reality square with it: |
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keepthemhonest
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Tue Jan-06-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #128 |
140. you right |
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JNelson6563
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Tue Jan-06-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #97 |
150. So about 9 years ago |
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Blarch
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Tue Jan-06-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #74 |
152. Horse shit. |
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JNelson6563
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Tue Jan-06-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
149. What a fabulous and productive contribution to the dialogue! |
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SoCalDem
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. Our cats are all indoorsies, and only associate with each other |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. our vet built a "ponderosa" for her and her husband |
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Mika
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. That's why I don't do insurance. |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Isnt' that the saddest damned thing ever. |
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FloridaJudy
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
94. Damn. I wish my dentist would do that. |
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tkmorris
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Tue Jan-06-09 05:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
136. Are you anywhere near me? |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Jan-06-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
155. Bless you for doing that! |
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Joe Fields
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
115. self delete...posted in wrong place. |
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SoCalNative
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. So don't get your animals vaccinated at the vet |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Both of our jobs have the best bennies out there |
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SoCalNative
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I doubt you have the best "bennies" out there |
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LostinVA
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
61. I know his wife has the best bennies out there |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. you rock |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. If you're paying $500 after deductable for a checkup, your "bennies" suck. nt |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. oh let's see. I am actually not |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. You just said your root canal cost you a thousand dollars. Your benefits suck. nt |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Root canal of a tooth that was broken off below the gum line |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. That's a pretty significant procedure. |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. OK, so.. ..... hmmm now my benefits don't suck??? |
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Tue Jan-06-09 05:08 AM Response to Reply #63 |
135. Ummm... |
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DeltaLitProf
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Tue Jan-06-09 02:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
132. With the economy failing at its present rate and scale . . . |
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Threedifferentones
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Tue Jan-06-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
143. "Just find a better job.." |
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hlthe2b
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
9. hmm... I just paid $650 for brakes, $1500 for new furnace, plus |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. ;) |
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hlthe2b
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:56 PM Original message |
Stop picking out one group of workers to villainize, JM... |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
68. One group? |
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hlthe2b
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Yes... head gasket a year and a half ago....$1200 |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. double overhead cam, right? |
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hlthe2b
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Go forth, stir the shit, and multiply then... I'm done... |
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QueenOfCalifornia
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Tue Jan-06-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
156. We too have |
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JerseygirlCT
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. You do understand that much of that doesn't end up with the Dr., right? |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I do know that. |
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JerseygirlCT
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Not "their" insurance companies. |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Theirs. That's where the money has been. |
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JerseygirlCT
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. You don't seem to place much value on their skills |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
86. Ummmm wife... former paramedic.... Tons of masters degrees |
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NashVegas
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Tue Jan-06-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
144. There's a Whole Lot of That Going Around |
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Fumesucker
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Doctors have fought single payer health care for quite a few decades now.. |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. What do you mean by, "they are reaping the harvest?" |
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Fumesucker
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. I'm reading of a lot of doctors who are getting out of medicine |
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JerseygirlCT
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Yes. |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. The plural of anecdote is not "data." nt |
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Fumesucker
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You have data? |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Sure. |
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Fumesucker
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
81. I never mentioned lower prices.. |
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salin
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. the doc in my family changed tunes |
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JerseygirlCT
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. That's what I hear from my doctors. |
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Lisa0825
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
107. I have worked in medical schools for most of the past 15 years, and |
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Fumesucker
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #107 |
123. The only route to true health care reform is single payer.. |
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eridani
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Tue Jan-06-09 05:31 AM Response to Reply #31 |
137. They are coming around |
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rvablue
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
129. But why aren't there different rates then for people like me without insurance? |
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JVS
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Tue Jan-06-09 05:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
138. They'd save overhead if they went back to doing housecalls |
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JerseygirlCT
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Tue Jan-06-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #138 |
163. It's not about the staff needed to turn on the lights and assist |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Tue Jan-06-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
151. Which is why I seriously DOUBT that we will ever have anything close to |
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JerseygirlCT
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Tue Jan-06-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #151 |
164. Oh they'll fight it tooth and nail |
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HughBeaumont
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. Funny thing is, CEOs will ALWAYS "charge what they charge", no matter what. |
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. Vets, dentists, doctors and hospitals treating the underinsured |
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natrat
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. my dog bit me by mistake so i go to emergency |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. So you got stuck with that bill |
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natrat
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. friggin deductible is ridiculous because there are 2 of us covered |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
66. uh huh |
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
98. how did you get bit by "mistake" |
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QueenOfCalifornia
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Tue Jan-06-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
157. Bit by "mistake?" |
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shireen
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
22. the real scammers are the insurance companies |
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Fearless
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. del |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
25. Ok, point blank. Somebody has to say it: You're an idiot. |
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natrat
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. my other dog needed 3600 bucks to fix her teeth,and ya know what it was worth it |
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. This is why... |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Agreed. Single-payer lowers costs for everyone, from health care providers to patients to employers. |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Wonder if any liberals on this website will read your post? |
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orleans
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
99. i don't think canucksawbones is a plant. and i'm a liberal. |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. It's not "me." Wake the hell up |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. I'm quite awake. Your post is nonsense. Again: Blaming doctors for the state of medicine is like |
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
27. Let us know how that one works out for you... |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. Let's see. The dog is up on her vaccines, |
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MajorChode
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
71. Undoubtedly that is the case... |
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Medusa
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Everything is going to suffer |
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NightWatcher
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
29. no, it just sounds like you may no longer be able to afford some services that you "need" |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. It's an outright tragedy that necessary services are denied to many Americans. |
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orleans
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
100. isn't this the second time you've said that? are you a doctor? n/t |
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JuniperLea
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
36. I love my vet... |
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
37. Deleted sub-thread |
KakistocracyHater
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
39. It annoys me when people purposely deflect an idea |
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Occam Bandage
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. You lost me at "dwindling customers." |
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
42. Dentures overall are a cheaper alternative to dental care once you get rid of your teeth |
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JuniperLea
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Mon Jan-05-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
47. Universal health care would help... |
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tpsbmam
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
52. You know, when I was a professional and did a LITTLE private practice... |
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. three cheers for you. Many docs are not getting rich, although vets and dentists often are. |
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
53. Your dog obviously deserve a better person than you are. Fuck up your own medical care if it suits |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. We are vegans too. |
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Maru Kitteh
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Your words. |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #64 |
76. Well wake her up, and go drag her ass out |
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Maru Kitteh
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #76 |
127. Again, you are the one who said the dog living with you wasn't worth $150 dollars to you |
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
67. I'm sorry you feel that way JanMichael |
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librechik
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
69. Why so hostile to one factor of the Epluribus? We will all be crushed at the same time |
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Texasgal
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
70. If you think the docs/hospitals/surgical facilities |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. My wife is an ex-paramedic |
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Texasgal
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. So your wife knows.. |
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
73. Vets maybe but Docs not a chance. |
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Diane R
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
78. That thousand dollar root canal? My kid spent $250,000, and four years. learning how to do that. |
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JanMichael
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. How did you kid spend that much? |
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #80 |
130. Graduate school's a joke compared to medical school |
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
82. I have no problem with doctors getting paid what they're worth, what I do have a problem with is ... |
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OhioChick
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Agreed. n/t |
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KharmaTrain
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
87. I'm Sure If You Paid Their Malpractice Insurance |
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Texasgal
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Mon Jan-05-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. BINGO!!! |
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JerseygirlCT
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. The only thing I'd add on the malpractice part |
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Liberal_in_LA
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
91. They are graduating from school with a boat load of students loans these days. |
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emilyg
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Not just these days |
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
95. This is accurate. |
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Jennicut
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
96. Healthcare reform is desperately needed. The vet thing |
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FloridaJudy
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
101. You are aware |
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Gregorian
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. I remember in 1984 how the doctors were making ten grand per angioplasty. |
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FloridaJudy
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. They may have charged ten grand |
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Gregorian
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. I'd have gladly been on call for those wages. |
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FloridaJudy
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #118 |
122. I'd like to start by making education free |
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Gregorian
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #122 |
158. It's easy to do. Kill military spending. |
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Gregorian
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
102. I just got back from a $2000 root canal. |
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liberalhistorian
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
103. You think it's bad now, wait until MedFICO |
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Gregorian
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
105. Malpractice insurance! |
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tridim
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Mon Jan-05-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
106. My dog twisted her bad knee last night and I almost had a heart attack |
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newtothegame
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
109. Telling those who take care of your healing to go fuck themselves. Smart. And mature. |
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leftstreet
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
111. I have a highly controversial idea: RAISE OUR WAGES |
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Dreamer Tatum
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Except for the people you want to buy stuff from, though, huh? |
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. What? |
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Dreamer Tatum
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. You don't think raising wages will increase prices? nt |
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. 2007 Blockbuster Inc CEO wage $11,582,994 - movie rental $3.99 |
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. I didn't ask you about one CEO. |
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. There's nothing 'intellectual' in suggesting the worker bees are harming the economy |
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #121 |
126. Like I said, not an intellectual discussion. |
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Mon Jan-05-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
116. I'd bet good money that if docs couldn't earn such decent livings, |
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
124. because you want your heart surgeon to work a night job |
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
125. Time to de-regulate medicine! |
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Tue Jan-06-09 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
131. I never pay full price anymore |
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Tue Jan-06-09 04:07 AM Response to Original message |
133. you're |
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Tue Jan-06-09 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
134. The reasoned rational response to your post is... |
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Tue Jan-06-09 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
139. You are EXACTLY RIGHT |
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Tue Jan-06-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #139 |
145. The average dental office overhead is about $500-$900 an hour. |
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Tue Jan-06-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. You are trying to generalize from your own situation |
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Tue Jan-06-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #146 |
147. Actually I was contrasting my practice with others, that, as you say .. |
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Burma Jones
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Tue Jan-06-09 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
142. There is already a tiered health care system |
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Renew Deal
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Tue Jan-06-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
148. What are you ranting about? |
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Tue Jan-06-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
153. It's called pay REDUX. |
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Tue Jan-06-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
154. there is a doctor in the neighboring city |
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
159. They Can And Likely WILL Charge That Just Fine. You, On The Other Hand, WILL Pay If You Want Or |
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Tue Jan-06-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
160. like the rest of Amurka, |
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
161. I'm a "professional" and I work for a reasonable salary.... |
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Tue Jan-06-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
162. I hear you. |
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