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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 08:53 PM
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Fundies Encourage Christian Jihad in Public Schools
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from the American Family Association's OneNewsNow, the No. 1 news source of the Dominionist Lunatic Fringe:



Keeping Christians in public schools
Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 12/24/2008 5:45:00 AM


A retired teacher has written a book encouraging parents to leave their children in public schools, rather than sending them to private and religious institutions.

The title of Dennis Ray's book is The Stakes Are High: God's Wisdom for Our Public Schools. He tells OneNewsNow that the atmosphere has changed for students, teachers, and society, and that may leave some educators in a quandary. He wrote the book from personal experience.

"(In the book I deal with) a lot of frustrations with lack of support in different areas, and what I could and could not do; and I just thought that there was a need to communicate to parents and community members and so on that these kids have different needs now and we're just not addressing them with the kind of worldly system of education we have," he explains.

Ray contends Christians should not leave the schools but that Christianity should be taken back into the schools. "Well, as a first step, I think we need to get the Bible back in school," he points out. "I think it could be used in curricular areas. It could be simply a matter of studying the literature and the history and the artwork connected to the Bible."

The book stresses that separation of church and state is not found in the Constitution, so Christians should stand firmly for their rights. Ray also suggests the Bible is a prime source for teaching character, but he believes Bible instruction and character-building ought to be initiated in the home.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=363352 (if Rick-rolled by the Culture Warriors, this story can be found in the onenewsnow area of www.afa.net )


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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 08:56 PM
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1. Fundies are the kind of people everyone should keep their kids away from
They're a sick bunch.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:02 PM
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3. They are utterly fucked in the head...nt
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:02 PM
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2. Still hangin' on to this deulsional...
"...that separation of church and state is not found in the Constitution" Its the very first amendment for fucks sake:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

Public funded schools can not recognize any religion, PUBLIC is different than PRIVATE; these people are blatantly misinformed.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:03 PM
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4. Hey TEACH, READ THE ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT
then come back to me with this no separation of church and state

ASSHOLES
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:20 PM
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6. you tell me where it mentions separation...
and i am willing to bet you cannot as it only mentions that the gov't will make no law regarding the establishment of religion...there is not word one about the separation of church and state other than that little phrase...and since most people like to read the second amendment with a literal bent regarding militias, what about this one why is IT stretched???

sP
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:42 PM
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11. Here you go
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Now let me repeat this again to you

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

Now those of us who can READ English and UNDERSTAND Constitutional theory and history and 18th century English KNOW that this is separation of church and state.

Try readying some books on this.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:17 PM
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5. The Fundies, Dominionists and Christian Reconstructionists have been
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 09:22 PM by BrklynLiberal
stacking the school board for years. That is how this has even become a subject for discussion....and why there is even a controversy about teaching creationism in public schools!!! They started this attack a long time ago, when no one was really watching what they were doing. They are starting their own colleges and law schools, and medical schools...They have infiltrated the government. If people think we have to worry about FOREIGN agents undermining our government, they should take a long, hard look at what these home grown nutjobs are trying to do to our country and its Constitution and Bill of Rights!!
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:21 PM
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7. You are right
The pukes started stealth grass roots campaign to take over school boards and local goverments a long time ago.
What they are doing is insurrection,imo.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:26 PM
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8. Just what we need; a bunch of little crusader terrorists.
Glad to see 'insanity' has become part of the curriculum.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:36 PM
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9. I am going to school to become a teacher, and I would love to teach a bible class.
Bwahahahahahaha!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:38 PM
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10. What do they think their rights are?
We have the right to be Christians in this country. We just can't make anyone who doesn't want to be one into one.

Geez, these people are stupid. They don't even value their own religious freedom.

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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:07 PM
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12. Hey Mr. Talibornagain, what part of "No establishment.." do you not understand?
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 10:08 PM by muntrv
Also what part of "FREE WILL" don't you understand?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:15 PM
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13. All the sudden, our church went all dominionist
in reaction to God's economic correction. :wtf:

This used to be a pastor who was pretty cool & sensitive to us secular Jews in the audience, until he battled cancer & the economy went south.

Merry Christmas and buh-bye!
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