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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 10:39 PM
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19 News Cleveland says a Connell friend warned him that someone may
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 11:35 PM by Algorem
be tampering with his plane and that Connell canceled a couple of flights because he thought someone may have tampered with his plane.Reported that at 10pm,didn't say where they got info ,didn't say it was an "exclusive".I doubt it's on their website yet or if it will be or if that story is all over the place already.Their news is on at 10 on channel 43,then at 11 on 19,so I suppose they'll repeat the story at 11.

http://www.woio.com/Global/category.asp?C=4397

i'm too lazy too look all over their website for it because their website is a pain and it's probably not there anyway.




11:34 PM- Here's the quote from the 11 o'clock news- "...Connell,though,was apparently told by a close friend not to fly his plane because the plane might be sabotaged.And twice in the last two months,Connell,who was an experienced pilot,canceled two flights because of suspicious problems with his plane..."
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 10:41 PM
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1. I hope police are treating this as a homicide.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:14 PM
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17. They'll treat it as the DoJ tells them to treat it.
Which is, as an accident. Nothing to see here folks, move along...

Just add it to the long list of "unfortunate" and coincidental deaths that benefited the Bush Administration.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:15 PM
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2. that was on a press release by Velvet Revolution
The news may have gotten it from there. Hopefully, they have the proof on those allegations.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:37 PM
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8. There are a few here interested in seeing that proof.

Hope to see a link soon!

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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:31 AM
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14. Ah.That sounds like Ch. 19. As long as the reporter says "apparently"
before it,it's fine.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:16 PM
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3. That is significant news...
K&R
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:16 PM
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4. I just checked the story on their front page and it looks like you can leave a comment. nt
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 11:23 PM by cat_girl25
edited to add: I just watched the video and they said the house the plane crashed into was the only vacant house in the area. The house next door had members of a church group and they interviewed a couple of them, one of them said since the plane didn't crash their house it was God's work. I believe in God, but when will some stop making statements such as this? Wasn't it a couple of weeks ago where that military jet crashed into a home killing this guy's whole family? Was that God's work then? :(
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:33 PM
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5. here's the quote from the 11 o'clock news- "...Connell,though,was
apparently told by a close friend not to fly his plane because the plane might be sabotaged.And twice in the last two months,Connell,who was an experienced pilot,cancelled two flights because of suspicious problems with his plane..."
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:35 PM
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6. Then why was he still flying?
:shrug:

This just makes no sense.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:38 PM
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9. ding ding! n/t
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:39 PM
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12. I guess that was "how he rolled",as the with-it young hipsters say.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 01:11 AM
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16. he should have only flown on a scheduled flight not a small plane
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:37 PM
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7. Seems two aviation incidents and no answers. Jet skids off runway and this guy apparently with a
"controlled flight into terrain" incident. I don't think I've seen a small plane blow up like this on was reported to have done.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:38 PM
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10. Let's cut to the chase
I live about 10 minutes from the plane crash. The weather last night for private pilots was AWFUL. When I heard about the crash I told my wife "I would have NEVER been flying in these heavy icing conditions."

Before we all jump to conclusions about airplane sabotage I would say it was a knucklehead with an ego flying in weather he should have never been flying in to begin with.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:52 AM
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15. The plane he was flying supposedly had advanced deicing capability
Would that have made a difference?
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 10:35 PM
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23. Wellstone
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 04:41 PM
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21. Wrong Day, The Freezing Rain Was Earlier In the Day of the Crash
It was breezy and dry all afternoon there - my dad lives one bolck from the crash, was outside most of the afternoon before coming to my house for dinner - still dry when he got home, he called and told me about the crash around 8, people were parking their cars and walking all over the neighborhood to see the crash remains.......it was also dry over night, the crash happened Friday, not Thursday.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 07:08 PM
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22. Ditto--I don't have a license but I took ground school once at a college that trained
commercial pilots.

Pilots of a small plane like this have to do a 90 minute checklist before they fly, including checking the fuel for water etc.

It'd be difficult to sabotage a flight if the pilot took the time to do what she-he was supposed to . . .
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:39 PM
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11. What an amazing chain of coincidences
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 11:40 PM by Juche
He has been warned by Rove if he comes forward

He has worried his plane was sabotaged in the past

He crashes into the only unoccupied house for miles

He is the only one in the plane when it crashes



FTR, I'm not saying for sure it was foul play, but there is too much of a risk of that to not investigate the issue in a transparent fashion. When a guy who supposedly knows about election fraud in 2004 dies like this it needs to be investigated seriously. But like the deaths surrounding the loose nukes at Minot Airbase, I'm sure it'll be swept under the rug.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 01:29 PM
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18. Only unoccupied house
I have to say that, while the crash could have been an accident, I am suspicious that it was something else. Not convinced, but suspicious.

That said, the point of impact just doesn't enter into it. There's no way anyone (other than possibly the pilot) could have controlled where it crashed. Even if it was murder, and even if there was some way to choose a precise impact point, why would murderers care about whether or not he hit an occupied house?

If for some reason they did care and they could control it, wouldn't they have simply crashed it in the middle of a large unoccupied area?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:13 AM
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13. One more hit by r-w ....
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 01:31 PM
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19. Sounds like the B*sh Crime Family is at it again.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 01:54 PM
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20. This is not tin foil hat material, it's somebody needs to seriously investigate time. nt
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