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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:09 PM Original message |
A single mom with one child can live easily on $10 an hour |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. I feel sorry for the single mom and the child. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. And Could You Imagine |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. $500 a month will get you a single garage in Encino... n/t |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. and since they use the pre-tax income to qualify for state aid, "this" mom |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 04:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
109. My daughter lived in one room of a 4 BR house with her baby |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #109 |
174. Terrible. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #109 |
185. The American worker will revolt as they get angrier and angrier |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. your utilities are low, I think |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I made it deliberately LOW, just to show that even with the minimal |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. "using plastic to feed their kids" |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. $2.88 left over is for food...the rest of the food it probably from "Visa" |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I guess I should have realized that |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. "Drink your oil, honey...it's $3 a gallon"..cheaper than milk |
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jaksavage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. plastic peanuts |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
79. Ten years ago it was shockiing to see people paying for their stuff |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
172. Yep.and when they did, they would usually make comments about |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
168. My usual rant - when you are at that level of income |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. Did someone actually say that? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Yes. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Nope.. just was thinking about the minimum wage "debate" |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Anyone who thinks 7.50 is too much to pay someone ought not to be in business. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. And nobody leaves the light on or a window open |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. if you can find an apartment for 500 a month |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
140. I thought all rentals must "allow" |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #140 |
143. the over 55 places are by far the |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #143 |
146. Got it. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-24-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #146 |
214. Me too. I'm almost 52. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #143 |
147. Your example is one of the legal ways to discriminate, in most instances. |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. Rent $500!?1? Where you livin - East Cow Pie Township?? eom |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. I checked my local paper |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. An efficiency/studio won't rent for less than $500 in my area |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
68. sometimes I cannot figure out how anybody lives in a large city |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. These aren't large cities I'm referring to |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
82. Over $700 here. I live about 25 miles west of Boston. eom |
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Turn CO Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
95. Ah yes, but the law here says that children MUST |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #39 |
131. My 2BR is $550 |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
42. that's the one figure that isn't impossibly low. you can find even 2BR |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
122. Theres many low cost cities where this can be done |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. That's true, but often the wages are depressed in the midwest |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
129. I live in a one-bedroom in upstate SC for $450, and while it's not |
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jhasp (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
137. I was paying $490 per month for a nice 2 bedroom apartment |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. No car insurance? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. No NUTHIN!! |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. I'm a bankruptcy lawyer |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
72. No medical care, no dental, nothing can break or wear out. |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. You forgot to add in her child support |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Hah! |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
191. I'll second that hah! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #191 |
193. My friend accidentally GOT all her back child support.. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. I'm female and I had to pay child support on my own kid to the father. |
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jhasp (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #34 |
138. Who had custody? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #34 |
151. And this is wrong... why? n/t |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
175. No, they just do that to avoid paying |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
132. Alimony? Of all the divorced women I've ever known, only one was awarded alimony. nt |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #132 |
152. I paid it |
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slutticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
187. Dad?!?! Is that you? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. Your point is spot on. I'd switch some of the values around a bit though. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I know, but in real life, the 5-week months are a "blessing" |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. No, I used to do documenting of incomes and 4.33 is the multiplyer used for |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. Or if they're ok living out in the middle of fricking nowhere |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. And if they do then gas cost would be higher |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. I'm the managing agent.... |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
20. Whos chart is this, where do you find day care at $50 a week? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I made it deliberately low to point out that even at $10, it's IMPOSSIBLE |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I saw that up thread after I posted |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. Yeah , the great economy at work here . |
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PghTiny (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
31. Aw, c'mon... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
32. Add a dad to the mix (also making $10 an hour) |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. This is assuming someone has health care with their $10/hr job |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Our health insurance is like 1400 a month |
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jhasp (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #55 |
139. There are better options out there. |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #139 |
144. I have a pre-existing thing |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #144 |
157. Ah... just saw the pre-existing thing... darn. n/t |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #55 |
156. My husbands is covered, too.. but I only pay 225 TOTAL for me and daughter. |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #156 |
163. Maybe I should shop around |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
37. Where do you get daycare for $50 per week??? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. that's the point though. Any realistic numbers could be rejected by RWers |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Please tell me you don't really eat dogs |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Comer perro? as in "dog-eat-dog world" maybe? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. despite much speculation, my name was not meant to imply |
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951-Riverside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. She could get public housing assistance & food stamps n/t |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Her "income" would be $18,200 a year..isn't that above" the "poverty" level? |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. AND, isn't the whole idea is for her not to be on public assistance? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
70. She would have to chose between sitting in those offices for hours |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
78. Not likely |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
40. I read the subject line and was thinking.. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. - $15 for gas and - $30 for electricity? When was this table made, 1977? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. deliberately low..to prove that is cannot be done |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 03:04 AM Response to Reply #48 |
106. deliberately pointed out...to illustrate your point. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 03:25 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. And? |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
46. But, But, But, She CAN'T Be Poor! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. and many are LUCKY to even GET 35 hrs a week |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
52. why is she only working 35 hours a week? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. 40 hour weeks are as common as the dodo bird |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Many employers do this so they don't have to pay benefits |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Well, she could get a second part time job |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. and still no car insurance n/t |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Right! |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
75. When I was an hourly worker (and I was for a number of years) |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
192. Clearly because she's selfish and lazy |
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Saphire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. Been there, done that. don't forget all of the other "misc." expenses.. |
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Jonathan50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
58. My wife is a regional manager for an international retail chain.. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
59. Daycare at $50 per week?!?!!!! Not any kind of even remotely decent daycare, |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
61. apparently the kid also never eats. n/t |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. he's such a quiet little kid.. sleeps all the time.. |
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ithinkmyliverhurts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
65. This just makes me sad (nt). |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
66. What a fucking liveable wage! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. Put into perspective, here's the cost of the new PC Dell is selling to the Chinese: |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
67. In Bangladesh. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
71. Yeah, if they lived in Brazil. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
74. The more you have, the cheaper it actually is to live |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Not to mention, most retail stuff is more expensive in low income hoods. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
77. a single dad couldn't live on that either. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. But men are evil, don'cha'know... |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Uhh... |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #77 |
141. THANK YOU! |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
83. I've got some problems with your calcs |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Most $10 hr workers would LOVE a 40 hr fulltime job |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. The $10 hr is being GENEROUS |
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MLFerrell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
84. Gas in the winter is more to the tune of... |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #84 |
100. I hear you |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
85. I'm gonna ask...what kind of decent day care does one receive for |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
86. Prostitution should be configured in the budget |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
89. Don't mean to rain on the cry fest...but... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Happy for you |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. ... |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. In case the point was missed... |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. We read such stories every single fucking time there's a thread on poverty |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #97 |
171. You are soo right. Every damned time. "But I made it!" |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. Yep..our old pal Ann Ecdotal always shows up to "cheer us all up" |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 04:53 AM Response to Reply #92 |
112. conditional statement there |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #92 |
133. And hopefully, you won't develop a disability fo fuck it all up. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #92 |
136. I don't know how you could do that w/a child. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #136 |
167. they should have thought of that BEFORE they had the child! |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #92 |
145. not true- |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #145 |
179. I agree...however |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
195. What a load of Bullshit. |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-23-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #195 |
203. So? |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. But that might be difficult for single parents |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. And so??? |
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World Traveller (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #89 |
101. Pulled myself up by bootstraps but sympathize with single moms |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #101 |
183. OHH! |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #89 |
102. There are still good paying mill jobs in NC? |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #102 |
182. Nope... |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #182 |
196. So how does one get clear across the country to the promised land? |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-23-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #196 |
204. Do you smoke? |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-23-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #204 |
205. Do you eat kittens? |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-24-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #205 |
206. I'll type slow... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-24-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #206 |
207. Where are the "vices" in the original example? Is a child a "vice"? n/t |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-24-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #207 |
210. Do you understand the meaning of the word vice? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-24-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #210 |
211. Love the smell of snark in the morning |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-24-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #210 |
212. who mentioned vices in this thread? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-24-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #206 |
213. I don't smoke. Can I have a free bus ticket? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 01:10 AM Response to Reply #89 |
105. It's tougher when you have a child |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 03:39 AM Response to Reply #89 |
108. Thanks for the Horatio Alger moment. |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 04:28 AM Response to Reply #89 |
111. That is a great story Craftergrl |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #89 |
134. "then I packed the car up and left"..... |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #134 |
184. borrowed actually... |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #89 |
142. I haven't read past your post |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #142 |
159. Craftergirl came out pretty heavily against abortion in another thread. |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #159 |
160. I'm usually not suspicious of newbs... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #160 |
162. If you can't say something nice about someone... |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. I'll take the milk. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #159 |
164. Virginity? |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #159 |
186. Reading comprehension is a good thing.. |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #89 |
158. Maybe your parents could have done the same thing if they hadn't had you. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #158 |
169. Touche', Maddy |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
181. "so I have to hire illegals" |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-23-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #181 |
201. What he said. n/t |
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Craftergrl (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-23-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #181 |
202. I'm sorry.. |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #89 |
194. Cupcake Brown! Is that you?? |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-23-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #89 |
200. Any minute now she'll offer us her secret to success |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
94. And on top of it, all those costs are REALLY CHEAP! |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-21-07 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
99. What the hell is the problem? She makes far more |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
103. A $30 electric bill? What decade are you living in? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 12:35 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Bucky, Bucky, Bucky |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 04:11 AM Response to Original message |
110. Or if they live in a trailer, and she works overtime every week... |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
113. How much money is she putting in her 401K plan? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 05:58 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. you rascal ! |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
115. I lived on 850 per month |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 06:27 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I tried to live on a grad. student stipend from 2001-2005 and there is no |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #115 |
161. My friend lives on $850/mo now |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. I've lived on about that before |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
117. Oranges at our local grocery store are $1.00 apiece, so |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. I feel so sorry for young moms who have to shop with their kids.. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
119. My mom raised me and my sister working as a waitress |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
120. The answer is no, but the numbers presented are quite off |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:16 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Please do.. More input is always helpful |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:39 AM Response to Reply #121 |
125. No need to split hairs |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. A woman who worked where I did the payroll got $6.75 an hour |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #120 |
154. That's the trouble, you can't disagree about the numbers... |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-23-07 01:31 AM Response to Reply #154 |
198. Look no farther |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-23-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #198 |
199. Thank you.. And even if the wage was $15 an hour, that would still mean more taxes |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
124. And people wonder why some poor families live 10 to a house! |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
127. A different lifestyle is called for. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Sometimes the dads choose it for them |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #127 |
170. Women don't always "choose" single parenthood. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
128. And if they never have any dental problems and don't need any vision care. nt |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
135. $15/month for gas? In winter...in the NE? |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
148. under-the-radar expenses |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #148 |
149. you forgot my |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #149 |
153. thank you- you're so right |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
150. People are poor because they're lazy. |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
155. Hi SoCalDem! |
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misternormal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
176. In the state of Arkansas... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. especially since lots of people use plastic and write in the tip |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #178 |
189. And if the tip is in plastic, it gets taxed, and possibly shared |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. Me too.. We always tip at least 20%..in cash..rounded UP. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
177. Social Programs would help |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #177 |
180. $18,130 is the apparent income limit of 1 child, so she seems to have just missed |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #180 |
197. Other benefits |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-22-07 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
188. Wow...whose daycare is that low? |
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liberal renegade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-24-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
208. the american nightmare |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-24-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #208 |
209. Unfortunately, low-paid people cannot afford to take a day off |
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