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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 12:32 AM
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Making the sickness and selling the"treatments"
But never find the cure?


The Breast Cancer Profiteers

While Rhone Poulenc Rorer's pharmaceutical division churns out docetaxel (Taxotere), a breast cancer treatment drug, material safety data sheets reveal that 56 of the 91 crop protection products on the company's website "contain ingredients that are probable or suspected carcinogens."

Also the world leader in 1998 agrochemical sales, at $4.15 billion, Novartis makes the pamidronate compounds used to treat bone metastases in breast cancer patients. On one web page, this multinational boasts that "Novartis intends to lead the fight against cancer by introducing therapies that battle the disease and alleviate the patients' suffering." Another page boasts, "Novartis Crop Protection is the leader in fungicides."

Eli Lilly and Co. sells millions worth of raloxifene (Evista) to treat breast cancer, but a cash cow for Elanco, Lilly's animal health division, is the cattle hormone Rumentin. Eating hormone-treated meat is suspected to alter estrogen levels, which may contribute to cancer risk. And Elanco manufactured pesticides under Eli Lilly until 1997, when DowElanco, the progeny of its marriage to Dow Chemical Co., became a separate entity.

http://www.greens.org/s-r/20/20-05.html

They make the chemicals, they run the treatment centers, and they're still looking for "the cure" — no wonder they won't tell you about breast cancer prevention.

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/199909/cancer.asp

Looks like cancer is making some people very rich.I don't think the people profiting from pesticides that cause cancer while profiting from the treatment of cancer will support universal healthcare.
These corporations are so intertwined so conflicted they ensure we all end up suffering and they will sell us a remedy that will only suppress symptoms but never a cure, because a cure does not make patients into repeat customers.Many people are losing everything to pay medical bills,I don't think people profiting off this shit want the gravy train to stop.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 12:35 AM
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1. Cancer is making lots of people wealthy. Sad but true and has been
Edited on Tue Dec-16-08 12:35 AM by babylonsister
for a long time. Then there are the tests and the biopsies and MRIs, etc., to really prove someone has it. Ca-ching.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 12:36 AM
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2. Seeing just the headline I thought you were talking about wall street bailout. nt
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 01:23 AM
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4. That wall street bailout
was the banks robbing all of us. whether they wear suits and call themselves Ceo's and rewrite laws and spook congress or hold a gun to your head and demand all you have,they are still nothing but stick up men and I hate them and the stupid compliant congress that went along with this stick up..
And yes the cult of the CEO is like a CANCER on this country, it needs to be cut out..
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 12:40 AM
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3. If there is a curable vaccine for cancer what happens to the drug companies?


I remember when there was a huge industry around Polio.
I know not the same kind of disease, but still its a point.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 01:26 AM
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5. cancer is scary
Edited on Tue Dec-16-08 01:28 AM by undergroundpanther
cancer can make a person desperate,it is painful disfiguring and deadly so to an inhuman profit seeking company,it's the misery of it that makes cancer the ultimate cash cow..As long as NOBODY takes the environmental toxin and pesticide causations for cancer seriously and the "scientists" keep on looking at everything BUT those causes.That way the cancer causing chemical makers who sell the cause and sell the treatment for what their"products" cause will remain unconnected in the public's mind..
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 01:51 AM
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6. Good post. Middleman?
Edited on Tue Dec-16-08 01:58 AM by azul
If we weren't so busy with military stuff we might be able to take a new look at the real causes of this accidental enemy and perhaps neutralize or neuter this serendipitous cash-cow.

Looks also like chemical chow is subsidized by uncle sam and then the public gets to foot the bill for the toxic clean-up and disease. Fortunes are made at all points of the process, and there are great financial incentives to keep the racket working through corrupting government, science and the media message.

The real war is on ignorance and disease and poverty. Looks like cancer can be the issue to cut through the greed and baloney and get some sensible effort focused. The chemicals in our diet and air and water may be poisoning us and need to be reevaluated in light of epigenetic causes of disease. Else we head into a future of illness and bankruptcy.
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Epigenetics Team, Molecular Carcinogenesis and Biomarkers Group, International Agency for Research on Cancer, 150 Cours Albert Thomas, F-69008, Lyon, France

While the field of cancer genetics has enjoyed a great deal of attention among cancer researchers in the last few decades, the appreciation of cancer epigenetics is more recent, -owing to the fact that epigenetic mechanisms have emerged as key mechanisms in cancer development. All critical changes in cancer cells, such as silencing of tumour-suppressor genes, activation of oncogenes and defects in DNA repair, are caused not only by genetic but also by epigenetic mechanisms. Epigenetic events can affect many steps in tumour development; therefore, better understanding of epigenetic mechanisms is fundamental to our ability to successfully prevent, diagnose and treat cancer. Various environmental and dietary agents and lifestyles are suspected to be implicated in the development of a wide range of human cancers by eliciting epigenetic changes, though the contribution of epigenetic mechanisms to a given human cancer type and the precise targets of epigenetic alterations during cancer development are largely unknown. The major obstacle in establishing a relationship between epigenetic changes and exposure to dietary, lifestyle and environmental factors and cancer is the fact that studies are typically too small and lack statistical power to identify the interactions between epigenetic changes and exposures. Tremendous advances in our understanding of basic epigenetic mechanisms and rapid progress that is being made in developing new powerful technologies, such as those for sensitive and quantitative detection of epigenetic changes as well as for genome-wide analysis (epigenomics), hold great promise that these issues may be addressed in near future. Therefore, experimental evidence on the precise role of epigenetic changes induced by environment, diet and lifestyle is eagerly awaited.


http://mutage.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/gel068v1
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 02:10 AM
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7. Don't forget the annual mammogram BS
There's increasing evidence that breast tissue retains too much X-ray radiation for annual mammos to be safe. In Europe, many countries encourage a mammogram every 5 years, instead.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 03:08 AM
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8. Pink Ribbon campaign
ws started by a company that makes crop chemicals implicated in breast cancer so they bought a company that makes breast cancer drugs.

They rake in a lot of money on the pink ribbon business. Wonder how much of that money goes to research into environmental causes of cancer and prevention.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 05:36 AM
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9. Which is why I never donate to that scam, despite the disapproval of my colleagues.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 03:01 PM
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11. I know what you mean
Whenever I get hit up I always say - "I only donate to organizations the research environmental causes of cancer."
But I sure get the looks. Too bad though.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 06:11 AM
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10. Everything you ever wanted or needed to know about it.
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