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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:21 PM
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Anyone see Obama on Larry King? Is it just me or was he awful?
I could only stand a few minutes of his uh-uh-uh-stutter-stutter-uh-uh-you-know-uh-uh before giving up on it.

Did I not give it enough of a chance? Or did he sound completely unprepared throughout?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:22 PM
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1. I've noticed he's pretty unimpressive without a prepared speech.....
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:26 PM
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3. He ranked a 100 against any GOP candidate
Or who in the GOP did you think do better?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:38 PM
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11. Trigger, meet hair. Hair, trigger.
:rofl:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:28 PM
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7. Isn't that the same problem bush* has?
I'm watching the repeat and I'm not impressed. In fact I'm very surprised. I thought he was such a great speaker and I'm very disappointed.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:30 PM
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8. Well, Bush isn't even impressive with a prepared speech. n/t
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:09 AM
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52. True! But he does a much better job with prepared speeches and at
times personable...especially when he's campaigning and using his cheer leading/Joe six pack persona. Creeps me out!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:20 AM
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29. Answering questions is totally different from reading from a prepared speech..
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 12:22 AM by Tellurian
BHO admits copying the style of his favorite local preacher.

He comes across differently when answering questions. Not quite as sure of himself.
I fell asleep out of boredom.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:25 AM
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38. I Like Him not preparing
He is showing he is like one of us. He is not just for show like some other politicians. They test whatever they say to make sure they come across smooth. What we need in office is a real person to handle real situations. Not someone in there just for the large corporations.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:23 PM
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2. I have the rerun on now.
WTF did he mean about redeploying and then sending the troops back in? I hope I heard that one wrong.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:09 AM
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33. that is exactly what "redeploying" means.............
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 05:09 AM by leftchick
send a few thousand troops out of Iraq to say, Kuwait or Oman and let them sit until the civil war really explodes. Then send them to hot spots as needed with lots of air power. Redeploy is just another angle at staying the course.

This is what the Democrats really need to say, explain our huge bases and that US palace in Baghdad and disown them. Say we need to bring the troops HOME, out of the middle east and back on US soil. Oh and, Fuck the oil.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:28 PM
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4. He needs 4 more years of practice.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:28 PM
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5. He was only okay
I watched the first several minutes, but then turned it off out of boredom. I think to some degree he could end up suffering from high expectations - people expect him to be a brilliant speaker (which he usually is, when in front of large crowds), but it translates differently in an interview like that.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:28 PM
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6. I've heard the uh, oh, uh before
I think this is just the way he talks.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:35 PM
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10. I sure don't remember that from the Democratic Convention, but I'll take your word for it.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:39 PM
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I'm talking about interviews
He was giving a speech back then, which is different.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:41 PM
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18. Ah. Gotcha.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:35 PM
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9. Sincere politician vs. calculating politician
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 11:37 PM by antiimperialist
Here is how two different types of politicians would describe president Bush.

Calculating politician: Uh, oh eh, ah.
unpretentious politician: "The devil came here yesterday ...and it smells of sulfur still today."
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:31 AM
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41. Sincere Politician
A sincere politician does not have to test everthing that comes out of their mouth. It is a person who speaks from the heart. Not someone testing everything just to make sure they say what the listeners want to hear and then don't give a damn about you in the end. They rather give money to large corporations instead by tax breaks. Give me a break.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:51 AM
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54. Good God -- get a grip that Chavez is not your friend, just because
he doesn't like Bush. Chavez is pulling stuff in Venezuela that is very alarming. And he's interfering in other elections in Latin America, like Nicaragua, who now is led by Ortega.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:26 PM
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62. There are many reasons why he may be my friend
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:30 PM by antiimperialist
The premise that his hating Bush does not necessarily make Chavez my friend does not exclude all other reasons that I could use to consider him my friend.

Putting the needs of the poor first, for example, makes me see him as my friend.

And by the way, why did you infer that the sole reason why I consider him my friend is because he dislikes Bush?
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:38 PM
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12. He may have had an off day
I haven't seen the Larry King interview, but other interviews I've seen with him have been quite good.

If you're interested, here's one from 2002:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzmXy226po
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:38 PM
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13. Sounds fine to me
Yeah, he needs to do something about that occasional "uh", but other than that, he's doing great. Get real.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:39 PM
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14. LOL!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:39 PM
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15. Who, King?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:40 PM
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16. rofl! Sorry - I meant: Obama sounded extraordinarily stutter-y to me. lol!
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VA_08er Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:41 PM
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17. Uh Oh...
Hillary's Uh Police are out again...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:06 AM
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28. lol! I finally get it - you're saying I work for/support Clinton! lol!
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 12:07 AM by BlooInBloo
Just because I reported hearing something less than sterling about another candidate. Gotcha.

It's because of people like you that Atrios wrote this:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_12_17_atrios_archive.html#116645724148144035


DUers slay me. They really, really do.


EDIT: "because of" -> "for"
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:43 PM
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19. What happened? Did he mispronounce 'nuclear' or something?
:shrug:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:44 PM
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20. I don't know how to describe what I saw any better than I did in the OP - sorry.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:50 PM
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23. He just has a bad habit of using uh's and ah's while speaking.
He needs to work on getting rid of them.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:49 PM
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21. He's always had the uh's and ah's while being interviewed.
It's just the way he talks. Some people talk like that. It's something he has to work on, that's for sure. It is an annoyance when you hear it. I still like him. He just needs to get rid of the uh's and ah's.

And for the poster who wrote that it's a sign of a calculating politician, the uh's and ah's is a bad habit, nothing more. He's not sitting there trying to be calculating after every question he's asked.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:50 PM
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22. Don't you have to talk about actors or musicians on that show?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:54 PM
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24. Obama did great.
He sounded like a thinking American rather than a politician. He's great.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:22 AM
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35. I agree. He looked very comfortable. The "uh" thing is his way
of thinking bec if you notice, after the uh pause...he rarely screws up what he then says.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 07:04 AM
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43. I agree with you. He hit a home run out of the park n/t
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:55 AM
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55.  I agree. I saw it today. He was thoughtful.
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:57 AM by wake.up.america
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:56 PM
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25. Oh Gawd. Is this the beginning of the Obama criticsm contingent?
Where do I sign up!?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:59 PM
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26. Sometimes a cake is just a cake.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:02 AM
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27. NOOOooooooo.
:sarcasm:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:30 AM
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40. it is legitimate criticism that he should really do something about. he is a smart
man. it is a habit. he needs to work it out of his speeches. they make listening to him very hard. and he has something to say, i want to listen
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:21 AM
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30. King just got over here, not just awful
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 01:57 AM by ben_meyers
He was God awful. Please don't compare Him to Bush, He ain't running against Bush! He has to run against the TV, and He didn't do a good job tonight. Bill Clinton did a stem winder at the 88 convention and followed up with a real good interview on the tonight show. Reagan could read a script like it was going out style, but they kept Him away from "live interviews" Actually Bush does fairly well in small groups and one on one interviews, He can't make a speech to save his life.

Obama had better learn to pick His spots. Perception is reality.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:28 AM
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36. Obama ISN'T scripted. In fact he writes his own campaign
speeches. That is probably why he uses the "uh" thing. That is why he stands out. Ever read his books? Captivating author. Read his books, then tell me he is not impressive!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:41 AM
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44. Bill Clinton's '88 speech at the Atlanta Convention was panned
severely by the critics. They noted that when Clinton got to the part of the speech that said, "in closing" that everyone started clapping. He did not do well at that convention with that speech. He went on TV and did damage control because the buzz was that he boring.


Clinton Concedes Speech Bombs
AP Online, Sec. National Political News (07-21-1988)

ATLANTA

Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton conceded Thursday that his nominating speech for Michael Dukakis bombed, but he said the Dukakis campaign wanted him to give a serious address.

Clinton said he cleared the 19-page address with Dukakis and his top aides before he delivered it Wednesday, and, ''They loved it.''

''They even added some things to the speech. They said, 'This really makes the case for a Mike Dukakis candidacy,''' said Clinton.

''They wanted Ann Richards to be funny, then for me to present the serious case for Dukakis,'' Clinton said outside the convention hall. Richards, Texas treasurer, delivered the keynote address on Monday night.

Clinton said when he got up to the podium Wednesday night, he realized the placard-waving crowd, full of pent-up emotion after two days of a convention dominated by Jesse Jackson, did not want to hear a solemn address.

''I just fell on my sword. It was a comedy of errors, one of those fluky things,'' said Clinton. He acknowledged it was ''a bust in the hall.''

Clinton's talk ran 35 minutes, more than twice the allotted time. Delegates shouted ''Wrap it up!'' and drew fingers across their throats. They saved their loudest cheer for when he began, ''In closing ... ''

Clinton ignored a flashing red light on the podium. At one point, House Speaker Jim Wright edged close to urge him to finish.

''The yellers took half my speech time,'' Clinton complained.

Television anchors made Clinton the butt of wisecracks. A Cable News Network anchor ended an interview with him Thursday with the jibe, ''A flashing red light is here. We've got to stop now.''

Mike McCurry, a spokesman for the Democratic party, said the speech was ''clearly longer than we had anticipated.'' Clinton apparently revised the speech up until the last moment, McCurry said. ''I guess, should I say, revisions or additions?'' McCurry added. But he defended the speech as a worthy endeavor because it ''laid before the convention a great deal of information it was important to have on the record.''


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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:59 AM
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49. I remember that.
All they could talk about afterwards was how boring and long-winded he was, and how people were applauding him just because he finally stopped talking.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:00 PM
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57. That was also what he joked about on the talk show
It was considered that he was so bad that he had shot himself in the foot on the national stage. In fact, it ended up working to his advantage because he was so disarmingly in describing how bad it was. This was one of many come back kid moments.

The best convention (non-nominee) speeches I remember were Obama's, Jesse Jackson's and Cuomo"s - all very different all very good. Clinton's was one of the very worse - boring and too long - Did he hate Dukakis?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:01 PM
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58. That was also what he joked about on the talk show
It was considered that he was so bad that he had shot himself in the foot on the national stage. In fact, it ended up working to his advantage because he was so disarmingly in describing how bad it was. This was one of many come back kid moments.

The best convention (non-nominee) speeches I remember were Obama's, Jesse Jackson's and Cuomo"s - all very different all very good. Clinton's was one of the worst - boring and too long - Did he hate Dukakis?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:01 AM
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50. Clinton's 88 speech is widely considered to be the most boring convention speech
in modern history.

Hmmm.... I wonder, with all his natural gifts for speechmaking, why he couldn't deliver for Dems in such a key role that year?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 04:43 AM
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31. I've noticed his Uhs and Ahs before
and it was annoying after a while, but then I realized that it's only a sign of INTELLIGENCE.. he's actually THINKING about what he's saying, unlike other people who either talk nonsense, like Bush or slick politicians who talk a mile a minute and have you buying beachfront property in Arizona before you know it..

He really needs to see a speech coach and learn a diversion tactic so that he doesn't blow it with that little problem.. think how easy it would be for someone to just cut everything he says out except for the Uh's and Ahs, and destroy the guy with a "Dean Moment"..

That's been worrying me, cos I like the guy :)
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RC Quake Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:19 AM
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53. He really needs to go to a few Toastmasters meetings.
Uhs and Ahs are extremely irritating to the average listener. I would completely disagree that they are a sign of intelligence, they are simply a filler word while gathering thoughts. A slight pause is much better and sounds much more intelligent. Think about it, a pause of 5 seconds makes people want to know what is next. The uhs and ahs just irritate and make people tune out.

Book TV is one of my favorite "background noise" shows while working around the house. The TV gets shut off immediately if the speaker uses too many filler words. Try listening without watching sometime. It's really apparent then.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:07 PM
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60. I doubt anyone at the local toastmaster's could have given the
speech he gave as well as he did in 2004 or his announcement speech.

The "uhs" I've heard are only in non-skipped speeech - and are better than some of alteratives - "you know", "I mean". On CSPAN, it seems some of the Senators whose later words are more carely chosen are the ones more prone to any of these devises.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 04:51 AM
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32. He's not great with interviews...a little more experience is needed, perhaps.n/t
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:17 AM
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34. You. He was not campaigning. It was an interview. And the
uh..uh...being annoying? Tucker Carlson started this about the uh..uh thing. Is that the best TC can do? Uh, I never even noticed it until ol' Tucker started.

Would you like to hear * trying desparately to speak English?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:36 AM
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37. Didn't see it but
I have seen him on tv giving interviews in the past and he is just ok. He is obviously an intelligent guy, but he isn't polished. For instance John Edwards is very polished and smooth on tv, he makes a great impression. This is critical in the tv age. Obama, not so much. Even Hillary Clinton is improving in this area. I think Obama will flame out quickly and won't be a factor in the primaries.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:28 AM
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39. i uh.. cannot stand uh... all the uh.... uhs uh... he has in uh... his speeches uh...
i had noticed this a while ago. i would have thought long ago that would have been taken out of his speaking. but it is really bad.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:58 AM
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42. He's been a bit off lately. His speech at the firefighters meeting was lacking
he may be getting burned out.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:49 AM
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45. So Biden was wrong about Obama...he's not articulate.
:)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:00 PM
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56. But you did notice that he looked pretty clean there, right?
My favorite Larry King moment remains the time Donald Trump told him on air that he had bad breath.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:53 AM
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46. Edwards is going to run rings around Obama and Hillary in debates--if he can raise $$
to stay in it until then.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:56 AM
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48. and I wish Gore would announce yes or no so I can go support Edwards
Im getting tired of waiting around.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:27 PM
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61. I just gave Edwards $100. to help him stay in.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:54 AM
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47. you mean Larry King actually had a relevant show???
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:03 PM
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59. And Hillary Clinton and John McCain were also invited to appear. They declined.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:03 AM
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51. No, he is just somebody who does not repeat talking points on TV
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:05 AM by Mass
but thinks before he speaks.

I know this is a very novel concept, people not repeating talking points and rehearsed answers, but, if we care about honesty, Obama is better than others.

When I hear a politician repeating word for word the same answer twice, I run away. He is not speaking with his heart, he is acting. No thank you.
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