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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:34 AM Original message |
As a renter, who cannot afford to buy, I am getting tired of hearing about "homeowners" |
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dennysp
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. With home prices dropping like bricks, |
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mainegreen
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. You get to own a home when we let the home prices collapse to rational levels. |
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snappyturtle
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. In MN they do just what you suggest. Renters get a refund in ratio |
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KitchenWitch
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. That rent rebate was in force way before Ventura's time... |
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Stellabella
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
80. No, that wasn't Ventura. |
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myrna minx
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
85. The rent credit has been a long tradition in Minnesota that predates Ventura |
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snappyturtle
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. My bad. I was thinking of the "Jesse Checks"...sorry...opps! nt |
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myrna minx
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. Jesse Checks. Damn I had forgotten about those. You know things are in bad shape |
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snappyturtle
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. For all the hubbub surrounding his governorship he did do some |
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high density
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
101. Maine does a similar thing |
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marciamarciamarcia
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
102. Now he was an Independent and is no longer gov, correct? |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Yup |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
57. It's ridiculous, isn't it? I hate the way the real estate agents around here have ramped up |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Curious .... |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
107. You're right. I shouldn't have blamed the real estate agents. It was a whole confluence of events |
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hlthe2b
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. Welcome to the ignored majority.... |
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eShirl
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. don't forget the childless |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I'm one of those, too |
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hlthe2b
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Yeah... was sort of including them among singles, but the overlap |
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hfojvt
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
62. not the majority. Only 32% of households are renters |
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hlthe2b
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Households versus individuals.... Non-owning individuals |
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hfojvt
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. I don't think that's true, unless you include children, prisoners, and nursing home residents |
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hlthe2b
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Are they people? |
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snappyturtle
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
4. I hate to say this because I don't want to sound flip...but life isn't fair. nt |
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. True...But...It's up to all of us to try to make it fair. |
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SmokingJacket
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
49. Of course it isn't. But why make it more unfair? nt |
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snappyturtle
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
95. Hey, I was just trying to put this into prospective. |
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slackmaster
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. I was pretty frustrated about the prospects of buying a home when I was 29 too |
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LWolf
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
8. I hear you. |
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LaurenG
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
9. I hope you can adjust to hearing about it a lot more. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
10. What Do You Want, The Government To Buy You A House? |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Nope. |
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mrcheerful
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
11. Well I'm 51 years old and my SO and I had a choice |
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JVS
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
12. K&R |
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krabigirl
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
13. Don't worry. I wasn't able to buy until recently, and I'm 37. |
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AllieB
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
18. This crisis affects renters too, especially if their landlord loses their property. |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
20. K&R |
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MilesColtrane
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
21. "When do I get to own a home?" |
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leeroysphitz
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
55. Does this mean I should start wearing a suit and tie to work? n/t |
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mike_c
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Fri Oct-10-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
22. right on-- I'm 53 and in EXACTLY the same situation as you... |
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Dora
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
24. Nobody likes a whiner. |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You sound like a Republican |
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slackmaster
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Theoretically any benefits given to your landlord will "trickle down" to you as a renter |
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Dora
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Ha, that's funny. Well then, look in the mirror. |
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Cresent City Kid
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. I see your point Dora |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #42 |
56. I said I think the government should help homeowners - I just think the political rhetoric is |
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Dora
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Of course the rhetoric forgets about you. Because you don't "fit" what's convenient to discuss. |
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Cobalt Violet
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
83. That's the impression I got too. n/t |
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Pastiche423
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Fri Oct-10-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
117. I agree w/you |
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Shakespeare
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
94. And rents are proportionately inflated right now, too. Why don't renters get a break? |
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Supersedeas
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
25. Another RW attempt to place the blame on Dems -- APPRAISALS and GREED for INTEREST profits |
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RebelOne
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
26. Well, I solved the problem of owning a home when I couldn't afford it. |
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greguganus
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. And you can always have it hauled somewhere else if needed. n/t |
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fencesitter
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
28. Renter here also, at age 56. |
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lukasahero
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
30. We bought our first home when my husband was 50+ |
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riverdeep
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
31. If you rent and are single, the government hates your guts. |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I agree with all of that. |
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dana_b
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
54. nope - won't do it |
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TooRaLoo
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Fri Oct-10-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
119. I agree. nt |
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PeaceNikki
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
33. The help goes to your landlord, which does help you. |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. My landlords are two heirs who live in another state and own the entire, large property outright. |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
84. Uhhhhmmmmm ok. |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. redistributed, duh |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Redistributed to whom? N/T |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Let me put this another way .... |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
105. Let me give you one more thing to think about along these lines, |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Why am I entitled to something because my parents worked for it and earned it? |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. I didn't use the word entitled once. |
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Shakespeare
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
97. Trickle down? No, it doesn't help. |
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MadHound
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
34. If starter homes are going for 200,000 where you are living |
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devilgrrl
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. "Have you considered moving somewhere where the prices aren't so outrageous?" |
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greguganus
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Commune or commute? I guess either one would work. n/t |
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MadHound
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
52. Many parts of midwest still have reasonable prices for housing, |
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TooRaLoo
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Fri Oct-10-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
120. Yeah, come to OKlahoma! It's cheap! |
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Dora
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
106. They're not. The poster is hyperbolic and uninformed. I live in the same town. |
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
35. I felt the same way at 29 |
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Javaman
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
37. I just hope the person you are renting from owns the home/apt you are living in... |
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LaurenG
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Fri Oct-10-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. That police chief is my hero and a real maverick in the truest sense of the word. nt |
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
43. instead of blaming others u could live your financial life in a way to get you to own a home???? |
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AtomTan
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
44. I love this thread |
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earth mom
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
45. I didn't own a home of my own until I was 40. You're not the only who has been screwed over in this |
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
46. The amount you pay for rent is directly related to this issue |
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AtomTan
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
47. By the way ... |
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Geek_Girl
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
48. You may be in a good position to buy a home soon though |
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
50. it's just like the way politicians pander to income tax payers |
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TahitiNut
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
53. I've heard the "renter's lament" for over 40 years. Nothing's changed. |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Wow. Staggering. |
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #63 |
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Dora
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
91. I live in Austin. I know of which you speak. |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #91 |
103. I WISH I could buy on South Lamar! |
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Fri Oct-10-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #63 |
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
58. I've come to the conclusion today that most of us are in this together. |
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Pacifist Patriot
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #58 |
73. Agreed. There isn't a person alive today who isn't affected in some way or another. |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
59. Do you live in an apartment? |
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
61. Well in reality |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. I hear you |
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riverdeep
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #61 |
79. Renters do pay property taxes. Just not directly. |
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Pacifist Patriot
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
64. When you resent your money being used to help other people you sound awfully Republican. |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I don't like all the "homeowners like ______ should be able to stay in their homes!" rhetoric |
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Pacifist Patriot
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say... |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #70 |
78. The only "affordable" homes in my "area" |
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Pacifist Patriot
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. I meant selfish in terms of wanting attention. |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Oooookay |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Is this not true liberal ideals? |
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spoony
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Fri Oct-10-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
126. It's rather like a childless person |
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SweetieD
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
68. I'm in the exact same situation. |
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tandot
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
71. In our area there are lots of renters who get kicked out of the house they are renting |
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Fri Oct-10-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. one of the problems in the Vegas area |
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shireen
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
86. i'm in a similar situation |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
87. I get the feeling that the more people offer you solutions |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Where are these nice homes going for "quite a bit less" ? |
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flstci
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. See this is what I was saying. Now it is about the TAXES .... |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #96 |
109. Really? I didn't understand what taxes were for before you posted that. |
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Dora
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #92 |
114. You want to ride a bus downtown? |
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Psst_Im_Not_Here
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
98. My story |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
113. You are the people I would want my tax dollars used to "bail out" |
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Fri Oct-10-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #113 |
124. Well, we are the majority of homeowners |
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EFerrari
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
99. Housing is one of the main streams of our economy. |
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
110. Hey! Don't forget the Homeless! They're even worse off then renters. |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #110 |
121. AMEN |
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bobbolink
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
112. Understand, it's all about "the middleclass". |
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ContinentalOp
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Fri Oct-10-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
115. Wow, $200,000 is pretty damn cheap. |
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Fri Oct-10-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. And that's the basis of expanding homeownership |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Your avatar makes me laugh |
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RadicalTexan
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Fri Oct-10-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
123. I'd like to apologize for any offense caused by/in this thread. |
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NashVegas
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Fri Oct-10-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. No Need Here |
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