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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:06 AM Original message |
Gotta admit this...................I'm happy about the price of gas |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. The upper middle class people with the SUV's just pay the high prices and move on |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah it's going to be sweet when Gas is $15.00 a gallon and the poor will be forced |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Don't worry about $15 a gallon, society will collapse at $10 n/t |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. ...or before |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
73. I say at $5.50 a gallon. nt |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. I don't think society would collapse at $10, I think we would finally move to electric cars (n/t) |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. With what money will we buy these electric cars? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Subsidize them with a Federal grant of 30,000 off per car |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Yeah, that's about the only thing I can see helping out as well |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. $3 trillion would have purchased 142,857,143 Toyota Priuses... |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. God, that's depressing |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. They have squandered it right from the lower and middle classes right in to |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
76. yes and no... |
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TheFriendlyAnarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
116. Unfortunately though, we never really had that money to spend |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
115. Are you going to make sure poor folk have 'em, too? |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-06-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
130. .... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Thank you for caring what some of us are suffering. Very few ever so enlightened "progressives" |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
93. Good to see you Bobbolink! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. Hey! Long time no see! My world sux. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. Agreed. |
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Mercracer (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
4. Blame???? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
112. Both |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. Except for people like my wife who has to commute 70 miles to work once a week |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
6. my coworker is PARALYZED NOW because he tried to save on gas |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
35. No, he doesn't understand, but more sadly, HE DOESN'T GIVE A RIP. |
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Flirtus (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
68. I had to check your profile - my co-worker is also paralyzed |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
81. I'm sorry for your co-worker, but riding a motorcycle is harder than driving a car |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #81 |
113. Been riding for years |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
118. And you know because you were there? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-06-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #118 |
124. It seems to be a natural reaction by cage drivers |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-06-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. You're exactly right. Yet, we LOVE to castigate RWers for the exact same kind of judgement |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-06-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Human nature is ugly |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-06-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Agree and disagree. I don't think we can just excuse it as "human nature". That's the easy way out |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
7. Want to end SUVs? Simply tax them to death and offer tax credits to hybrid vehicle owners. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
36. oh, riiiiight. "Tax credits" for folks who already have the bucks. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
64. I agree - don't make SUVs illegal, just tax them |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. somewhat agreed |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
102. The majority of Americans live in suburbs |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. the suburbs only exploded to the current size within the last 50 years |
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Whoa_Nelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
9. I can't afford to buy a newer car right now |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Yes, you're being demonized. Join the crowd. We just don't count |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
10. I'm not. Not everyone has access to good public transportation. |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
11. The suffering of others doesn't make me happy |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
40. Thank you for understanding and for caring. Yes, some of us are really suffering. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. Considering the ripple effect on every product we buy |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
13. I used to have a smug feeling about SUV's and high gas prices, but then I came to my senses |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
41. No, they don't "feel it first". They just smile smugly. WE, the POOR FOLK, are the ones |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:42 AM Response to Original message |
14. The only thing I am happy about |
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Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:46 AM Response to Original message |
15. if only gas prices only affected SUV sales and |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. id be happy |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 04:56 AM Response to Original message |
17. Most of us are hooked on the freedom that cars give us and are unwilling to change. |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
18. Good for you |
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reformedrethug (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. and you are wrong |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
111. We own an SUV as well |
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reformedrethug (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-06-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #111 |
123. Our Durango is a 99 |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:09 AM Response to Original message |
19. Sorry but the poor are the ones who suffer, not the SUV drivers |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
42. THank you for saying the truth. It's not popular anymore in the Dem party. |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
132. Poor are the canaries in the mine |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
20. Gotta admit this....................You sound like a clueless, heartless sunuvabitch. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
44. Thank you. People like me are so much trash underfoot to people like this. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
21. As gas goes up in cost, food and everything else goes up as well. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
22. Well I am not |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
23. Your icon says it all |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. You don't realize the pinch this is putting on everyday Americans |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
25. My company paid twice as much in the first quarter of '08 |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
26. Yes because it's ONLY about the price at the pump, right? |
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City of Mills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
27. Well, you, bush, and OPEC |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
28. ...it affects everyone, not just suv drivers...you too. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
29. Ah, a little love for the working poor. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Hey, what the fuck would these "progressive" snobs do if they didn't have US to look down on?? |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
31. Pecuniary externalities don't play politics |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
32. As long as you've got yours, let the poor suffer |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. You got it. They'll just be happy when we're extinct. Rid the party of us |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
43. Quite a moronic sentiment. It's one of the most regressive taxes imagineable. |
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reformedrethug (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. In my case |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I hear you. |
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reformedrethug (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. anytime the morning low |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
88. Same here. 50 degrees when I am ready to leave is my threshold. |
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reformedrethug (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. well I live in the northern part of ohio |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
49. fine get mad at me |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Screw you dearie |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. . |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Everyone has friends/family affected by this |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Until the working poor wake up and do whats in their best interest |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. You do understand that food costs are raising fast, due to gas costs, don't you? |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. yea..food has to be shipped.... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Your arrogance is jaw dropping |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. weve been advertising to them for years. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Indeed |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Which "they" do you refer to. |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. They= Red state SUV driving Americans of ANY income |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. I'm not suggesting an advertisement strategy |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Some are assholes, some are just scared and off balance. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. no, no, no! |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. So they get a free pass to make stupid decisions |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. You are utterly hopeless |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. WTF???? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-06-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
129. this is more and more the attitude of Dems. then they wonder why they |
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redwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
104. I am becoming the working poor. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-06-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #104 |
131. According to the OP, that doesn't matter. If you're poor, you're worthless and deserving of scorn. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-06-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
128. your ugly stereotypes are just as redneck. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
55. You are completely clueless. The poor are the ones being affected, not the ones |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
110. As I told my mother when she made a similar argument |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
56. I feel the same way sort of. |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
61. Shit, I hope they double it. Come sit on my porch sometime... |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. We'll probably see 6.00 for premium this time next year. |
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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
65. I'm happy you're happy |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
72. Sounds more like a cultural thing to me. Your glad someone else isn't? |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
77. CASE IN POINT: |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. They get to deduct $25,000 on their taxes because it weighs over 6,000 lbs. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Business can depreciate the entire cost (up to $100K) of certain vehicles which weigh over 6,000 lbs |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I thought they reduced it to $25,000 in 1994? Either way, the point is, anybody can start a business |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
84. Wrong. |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I agree with you about planning |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. We're laid out for nuclear warfare, |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Actually we're laid out so people can get as far away as possible from black people |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. It was all government planned. Racism was used by them as a tool |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. I think the primary motive was economic |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
117. It was economic-military |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. yup, somewhere between the military/corporate/economic interests the rest of us got screwed |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. I'm 34 and have lived in various suburbs |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
106. bit more complicated than that |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
90. i don't enjoy seeing people in my area struggling, we have many lower income |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
91. I think I see what the poster is saying. |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. The high prices are not a result of any shortage. The prices have been driven up by the energy |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
99. Yeah I love how it's making everything more expensive |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
101. I hope you also enjoy the twelve dollar chicken |
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matt007 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. lol |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. The faux elitism is showing |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
114. The high price of gas will finally force the US to find a way |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
119. Wow. |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
120. I have a Hybrid and a Compact SUV |
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