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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:36 AM Original message |
A Look At The Real Reasons For World War 2 |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. I imagine that Joseph Persico's book, 'Roosevelt's Secret War' would be a good counterpoint |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. Trashing Roosevelt? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. given the lack of communications at the time and all the variables |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. Slightly strange for the review to never mention Czechoslovakia, or Poland |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. i think Baker would argue |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Given that most people spend a lot of time saying Hitler was appeased |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. US Congress in 1936 forbid arms sales to belligerents and made the prohibition permanent in 1937 |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. US military appropriations did not grow quickly until after the invasion of Poland |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. In the 1930's, there was no shortage of war opponents in the US, including a number of |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Any British or French weapons the Germans had, were captured |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I'll second your bullshit call. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. all protestations of cow feces aside |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Correct,, but everything was dual use |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I agree, US industry was invested in Germany |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. What was the title of the Law suit by Ford and |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Oh, it gets better... |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Thanks |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. I remember reading that people in Köln, Germany, would go to the |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. That would make sense... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. There are, of course, always people who believe they can profit from |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Ford was an equal opportunity capitalist |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. just more anti-Hillary stuff |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks. I want to read it. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
51. Yup, it would have been so wonderful for the Nazis to take over Europe permanently!!!! |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. You know some people would've wanted it. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. wow! |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. Don't forget Prescott, GW's Grandpa had his fingers in starting WW2 - Jr's trying for WW3 |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. Capitalism has always been mortally threatened by Communism |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. rubbish |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
54. Sounds to me |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
13. World War Two likely would not have happened if the US avoided World War One |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Most objective historians of World War I hold that Imperial Germany |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. True, but if the US had avoided the war, a negotiated settlement was far more likely. |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. That's probably true to some extent |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
50. Austria-Hungary would never have gone to war with Serbia without |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. There's another story behind the start of WWI: a false-flag operation by a disloyal faction of the |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. This is really interesting! |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Both the Rusians and the Austro-Hungarians were woefully unready |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I'll check it out. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Welcome to DU! |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I think you're spot on with that. |
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Dammit Ann (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. thank you. |
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pork medley (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. interesting n/t |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. I can't quite agree with Mr. Baker's assertion. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. The US entered into War due to Japan's attack. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Hitler was obligated to declare war on the U.S. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
29. The author is a MORON on NPR |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
31. It's simply idiotic to think Germany could have gone to war dependent on foreign arms suppliers: |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. More than that...one doesn't build a resurgent economy |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Uhm huh??? |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Nonsense |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Ford also had the only truck factory in the Soviet Union at Gorki |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. There is, of course, no question that various industrialists collaborated with the Nazis |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
34. And is it assumed that the world would have happily acquiesced to the murder of 6 million jews? |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
41. Nicholson Baker is a career fiction author, folks... |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. People should bear that in mind |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. In the 2 days since your first paragraph in the post above was written on another blog |
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