OFFICIAL Senate debate to debate Thread # 2 (cspan 2)

[rodeodance]

OFFICIAL Senate debate to debate Thread # 2 (cspan 2)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=234578&mesg_id=234578

Sat Feb-17-07 11:04 AM
Original message
****OFFICIAL C-SPAN 2, Senate thread*************

Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 11:13 AM by The Witch
www.c-span.org
I'm not good. I'm not nice. I'm just RIGHT.
Valentine Valentine Valentine

[rodeodance]

1. Byrd up now (he has a cough)

[rodeodance]

2. go Sen. Byrd.

[Jeanette in FL]

5. He sounds very ill

I just got here, will have to read the other thread to get up to speed.

[AnnInLa]

3. Ricola anyone?

[Caoimhe]

7. Poor guy, he seems pretty sick

he looks so feeble. His brain is still there but his body is shutting down. Terrible to watch.

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. Oh dear. Senator Byrd has a bad cold! He should be home in bed...

poor thing.

He's kickin' butt, as usual!

[rodeodance]

8. i do hope he does that Right after the vote!

[Jeanette in FL]

9. I agree on both accounts

He is kicking ass, "Enough, enough, enough"

[blm]

19. Byrd is more comfortable on the floor of the senate than anywhere else on earth.

Wishing him strength and health and comfort.

[rodeodance]

6. he is talking of wounds and injuries that have scared troops for life while

the Senate is paralized!!!!!!!!

[rodeodance]

10. ha ha. byrd got a laugh

[rodeodance]

14. ENOUGH< ENOUGH ENOUGH of this STALLING he says.

[GenDem]

11. Senator Byrd will work every day, 24 hours a day

How many people in their 90's even work?

He is an amazing statesman.

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. This is the most important issue facing America! This is ENUOGH! ENOUGH! ENOUGH!

I will cast my vote with PRIde..in favor of proceeding this debate.

[SlowDownFast]

55. "Bring them home, home, home."

The Byrd is the Word.

[A Brand New World]

13. Who is the Madame President?

[rodeodance]

18. the lady with the Gavel (they are referred to as President for the day)

[Nictuku]

Ted Stevens makes me ill

[Monkeyman]

22. He wants his bridge to no where

[Evergreen Emerald]

15. ok. Senator Byrd moved me.

Dang he was good.

[Caoimhe]

16. Ted Stevens looks like Tony Randall in that double breasted

number.. what the hell?

[SCDem]

17. Ted Stevens, Democrats were kept from debate for 6 years

[Caoimhe]

23. They sure can't take their own medicine, can they?

[tridim]

20. "Tubes" is up

Crazy bastard.

[GenDem]

29. Senator "Bridge to Nowhere"

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

21. Ted Stevens whine, it's not fair, the "real" problem is how do we get together in a Senate where the

majority is one...

Yeah, that's the problem.

MKJ

[Caoimhe]

28. Who just commented? was that Byrd?

[rodeodance]

24. ANOTHER Repug about WHINNING about Working on Saturday! te he

[rodeodance]

27. it is Ted Stevens having an ouchy COW!!

[nickyt]

38. Our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan get Saturdays off, right?

Right?

(sarc)
(a'hole)

[Jeanette in FL]

25. Stevens is such a f***ing crybaby

Stop your whining you big crybaby. "We can't debate", yeah right. Bitching about having to work on a Saturday. What about all those votes in the middle of the night, Mr. Senator.

[Graybeard]

26. Stevens whining again ...

...about having to work on Sat. Waaa. Waaa.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

31. He is so damned irritating to listen to. What are Alaskan's thinking of when they vote for him? eom

[Blue_In_AK]

34. He's an old habit that's hard to break. nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

69. Thanks for letting me know! eom

[tridim]

43. He'd rather be back in Alaska figuring out how to destroy more national treasures..

by raping the land and killing as much wildlife as possible.

It's the ultimate GOP wet dream.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

30. I have not heard him utter the word "Iraq" once. It's all about how frustrated he is that

the rules may not been followed to the last little detail by the Dems. :eyes: MKJ

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

32. He's mentioning "troops" many times, though. n/t

MKJ

[rodeodance]

33. Stevens needs to go sit on a floating iceberg back in Alaska!

[Olney Blue]

63. That would be nice... but there aren't many icebergs left....

[slipslidingaway]

35. Byrd to Stevens 'I don't see anything happening on your time'

something like that. :)

[rodeodance]

36. oh ho, A Repug does not want to give Byrd 2 more minutes.

[rodeodance]

44. Kennedy will let him speak on his time (says he has a Binding Res to bring

the troops HOME-----byrd says this).

[mopinko]

37. pooooor little thugs.

learning about the rules. aaaawwwwwww.

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. Byrd wants to speak again, but asshole McConnell wants to stop him because they're 'short on time.'

What an ASSHOLE.

DURBIN is letting Byrd have 1 minute! :loveya: I love my Senator. He's such a teddy bear.:loveya:

[Coexist]

42. Thanks to the Lion for giving him a minute

bring the troops HOME HOME HOME.

[Caoimhe]

40. GO TED!

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. LOL! YES! Ted Kennedy is IN THE HOUSE!!!

:rofl::rofl: GIVE 'EM HELL TED!!!!

[Coexist]

48. I love him when he's all riled up.

he rocks.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

45. Ted is on fire!!!!! eom

[rodeodance]

46. HO HO< Kennedy is on FIRE!!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

50. Gen. Petreus is the R's new military general du jour. He's been quoted at least twice today.

MKJ

[Graybeard]

53. When Teddy speaks extemporaneously ...

...it is stirring. Genuine passion. Go Teddy!

[JohnnyLib2]

201. The lion roars once again....

What an asset he is, and for so long.

[Olney Blue]

66. Senator Kennedy, thank you for voicing my rage!

[Caoimhe]

47. Mitch McConnell .... *snore**

[Coexist]

51. let them .. carry .. out .... their ..... mission.

is he trying to hypnotize them with his monotone and strange pauses?

[rodeodance]

54. he voice always sounds like he has stuffed up sinises!!!!!!!!

[rodeodance]

49. what a contrast -Slimeball McConnel follows on fire Kennedy

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

52. Almost as jarring as Stevens following Byrd. :-)

MKJ

[rodeodance]

56. 'the NYT's, surprizingly enough,"-----had an editorial opposing the House

vote of yesterday. McConnel says

Then went to Wash Post which also had an editorial dissing the House vote.

[Tennessee Gal]

57. Republicans are such liars.

They don't want to debate. As Kennedy said, they only want to shield the buffoon in the White House from criticism.

[LSK]

58. is this almost over?

[Coexist]

59. Reid up - Close like Alan Shore, baby!

[Olney Blue]

62. Reid: War has cost 3 soldiers per day in the last month.

[Evergreen Emerald]

60. Mcconnell has the nerve to say the republicans have been trying to have this debate for weeks.

Really senator? Where have you been for the last four years?

[in_cog_ni_to]

61. Harry Reid...Give 'em hell Harry!

Now it's the turn of the Senate to give advice to the President.

[mruddy]

64. Has it come down to support Bush vs support our troops?

Many republicans keep talking about support for the troops. Sounds more to me like they've decided to support Bush over support for our troops during this current debate.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

68. Welcome to DU, mruddy. You're spot on.

:hi: MKJ

[Olney Blue]

70. Sneaky rhetoric.

Hi mruddy, welcome to DU!

[Jeanette in FL]

71. Wecome to DU, mruddy

Yep, you got that right, support Bush over our troops.

[democrank]

177. Welcome to DU, mruddy.

Glad you`re here.

[rodeodance]

65. Harry Reid talking of lack of equipment for new surge troops

[rodeodance]

67. says many Repugs want to SAVE the PRES from EMBARRASSING vote.

[in_cog_ni_to]

72. That's EXACTLY what this is about. Who cares if more troops die while they're trying to save face

for that PSYCHO?

[rodeodance]

77. the FINALE-----folks----vote will be next

[LSK]

73. vote time

[napi21]

80. This is just a vote for cloture. Hope it passes this time! n/t

[Olney Blue]

74. I can't hear the votes!

[LSK]

75. are all the Senators there?

[Nictuku]

78. I know McCain isn't

... he was unwilling to change his campaign appointments.

[Olney Blue]

81. I read in the Post this morning that Obama and McCain would not be there

but campaigning.

I heard Hillary say "aye"- guess her voice "carries" :)

OK, I just heard Kerry say "aye"

[LSK]

90. did not hear Obama's voice when called

He should have been there, thats a mistake.

[SlowDownFast]

159. "Mr. Obama, Aye"

He's there!

[rodeodance]

84. McCain is on the campaign trail. He dissed the vote and will NOT be

back for the final vote.

[rodeodance]

86. think this is the roll call?????

[LSK]

93. yes

[POAS]

Doesn't look like anybody voted yet

[global1]

76. It Pisses Me Off That The Repugs Are Complaining About Unfair Tactics By.....

the Dem majority when the last 6 years that is all they did was play by dirty tactics when they were in the majority. The MSM didn't cover all of those instances like they are covering this one. The MSM are making the Dems the bad guys in this - when all along the bad guys were and are the Repugs.

[POAS]

91. As the song goes, "Cry me a river"!

[mb7588a]

79. They're sitting!

You know when they all sit to vote it's a very serious vote.

[LSK]

82. yeah, they usually linger and socialize during votes

[rodeodance]

92. long day for them. and a hard vote for many.

[POAS]

85. I noticed that too, usually

they are all milling around.

[napi21]

87. You're RIGHT! I never noticed that before, but usually they're

all milling around the floor! No so THIS TIME.

[mb7588a]

103. 47-22

warner - yae
Snowe - yae
Specter - yae

nelson FL- yae

lieberman no - fucker

[SlowDownFast]

83. Voting to consider

whether to vote on a vote to vote for the Resolution.

Sheesh.

[mark414]

88. god bless america...

right?

:eyes:

[flyarm]

89. IS LIE BER MAN NOT THERE TO VOTE..I DIDN'T HEAR A RESPONSE

when they called his name...

fly

[napi21]

94. I can't hear any of them! I wonder why? Usually you can. n/t

[rodeodance]

95. I think I heard Joe would not be there but it was unclear to me.

[dogday]

98. I heard McCain and Lieberman

chickened out

[dogday]

110. Lieberman just voted ney.........

proved me wrong

[flyarm]

96. Warner voted aye!!!!!!!!..yeah!!!!!!!!!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

100. Heard that!!! n/t

MKJ

[flyarm]

105. LIE BER MAN JUST CAME IN A VOTED "no"..THAT FUCKER!

[Olney Blue]

I admire Warner for that.

P.S. To the Connecticut Lieberman voters: WHY?????????

[in_cog_ni_to]

97. He doesn't work on the Sabbath....OOPS. He's there!

on edit: I was wrong. He's there. When did he start working on Saturday?

[dogday]

115. Money Trumps Peace and apparently religion...... nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

122. War's more important.

:grr:

[Olney Blue]

170. When he sold his soul to the chimp.

[Nictuku]

102. Lieberman Bastard!

Voted no, of course.

[POAS]

104. there's your answer.

[Graybeard]

137. Lieberman is a stinking whore...

...go flush yourself down the toilet!

[Olney Blue]

111. They just said Lieberman say no. What a shock.

:eyes:

I think I counted 22 no votes, but don't quote me.

[rodeodance]

99. they are going thru now for the first ones.

[Klukie]

121. I didn't hear Obama vote....

is he present?

[LSK]

101. Voinovich No, he is one of those that might have voted yes

Dont think this is going forward.

[rodeodance]

106. Specter and Warner voted YES. I may have missed others

[Jeanette in FL]

107. Lieberman - NO n/t

[SCDem]

108. Ol' Lieberman

[SCDem]

117. Only 22 voted No

I think but this is just on whether to move ftoward consideration of the HOuse version. So I guess this isn't "the" vote.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

109. Lieberman is there! Damned! eom

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

112. I thought Lieberman wasn't there...now, he has a "no" vote?

:shrug: MKJ

[rodeodance]

113. Joe L arrives late to vote NO> YUK

[rodeodance]

119. Mr Carper says AYE

[rodeodance]

124. Craig says NO

[rodeodance]

129. chambless and Lott say NO: Demint says NO. (5 late votes all NO's)

[rodeodance]

suey cue Colins just slipped in and said AYE

[POAS]

114. I got 22 no's thru Lie-berman

[SCDem]

120. I had the same count

[democrank]

116. Just got here, but let me guess....

Ted Stevens whined already.

[in_cog_ni_to]

133. LOL...yes. He whined and whined and whined and whined. n/t

[GenDem]

134. Oh, did he ever.

[napi21]

118. I counted the no's and got 22. Wondeer how many Sens are there today?

[dogday]

125. How long can they hold the vote open

sounds like the republikans are coming out of the bathroom or something...

[POAS]

140. going by the standard set

by the Republics they can hold it till 4 AM

[napi21]

127. It sounds like they have enough no's to defeat the motion.

[POAS]

130. 98 I think

[napi21]

138. Is McCain the ONLY one not there?

[POAS]

182. Isn't one in the Hospital?

[flyarm]

123. AND WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE HERE AT DU THAT SUPPORTED LIE BER MAN??

was there any doubt among most of us that LIE BER MAN was a fucker?????????

i hate that prick!!

sorry but that is how i really feel!!

fly

[Nictuku]

128. Me too

[blm]

219. It wasn't DU supporters who saved Joe - it was Bill Clinton on LKL and his win/win scenario

and his constant support for Lieberman while failing to show any significant support for the Democratic NOMINEE.

Let's not play that game where some of us are supposed to pretend that Clinton HAS no real influence when it comes to matters like the Lieberman race, but then point to the benefit of his influence for 2008.

We all KNOW that Clinton influences MANY Americans - and when he sides with Hillary, it MEANS something. And when he sided with Lieberman, it MEANT something. And when he publically sided with Bush2 on military decisions, it MEANT something. That he stays aligned with Bush1 and acclaims his 'love' for him, it MEANS something.

[Jeanette in FL]

126. Collins - Aye

Good for her

[Nictuku]

135. Snowe voted yes too

[mb7588a]

131. 49-26 (through collins)

specter, snowe, collins, warner - yae

nelson FL - yae

Lieberman - no

[Coexist]

143. hagel - aye , obama - aye

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

132. Collins! Aye! eom

[Chichiri]

136. We need 60 votes to proceed, right?

Also, what's Harry's plan if it doesn't work?

Also, has Klobuchar voted yet? I've been waiting to see her on C-SPAN2 since she was elected. :)

Also, why don't I have a heart? :(

[napi21]

144. Yep! Super majority.

[Chichiri]

160. Smith aye, Enzi no

[Chichiri]

145. Biden, Hagel and Obama: Aye nt

[Nictuku]

149. Hagel Yes!

[LSK]

156. Yes

[countingbluecars]

139. Where's Obama?

I don't think he voted.

[in_cog_ni_to]

141. He's voted yes.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

152. He just voted "aye" !

MKJ

[flyarm]

obama aye!!

[Olney Blue]

148. He just voted aye on a late vote!!!!!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

142. Hagel, yes!

MKJ

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

150. Boy are you fast!!!! eom

[POAS]

161. Yoga ta be fast around here!

[POAS]

151. good n/t

[LSK]

146. Mr Obama AYE!!!

[rodeodance]

147. another late commer saying NO (Huchinshon of TX Thune NO, Brownback

says NO (umm thought he would say no)

[rodeodance]

158. Biden, Hagel, Obama, AYE's

[SCDem]

153. Obama is there and voted Aye

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

154. Hagel & Obama - Aye!

[mb7588a]

155. 53-29

hagel, specter, snowe, collins, warner - yae

nelson FL - yae

Lieberman - no

[in_cog_ni_to]

163. Smith aye! 6 MORE!

[dogday]

166. No surprise with Lieberman

I wished he would not even caucus with the Democrats, he is a Rebublikan through and through....

[mikelgb]

157. OBAMA AYE!

He showed!

[rodeodance]

173. Insy NO, Smith, Colman AYE

[Coexist]

162. Smith - aye, enzy - no, coleman - aye

[LSK]

164. Gordon Smith Aye - isnt he GOP?

[Chichiri]

165. Yay Coleman! That's my GOP senator, he voted aye.

[Coexist]

179. he's afraid of Franken!!!!!!

[Jeanette in FL]

181. He is up for re-election in Minn

against Al Franken, he had no choice but to vote aye, to save his political ass.

[Chichiri]

188. You know, those bald patches on the Senators aren't pretty sights.

I didn't notice until now, but it looks like Dorgan has one. Humbug.

No activity since Coleman, but I think we have 55 ayes now, right?

[Dinger]

167. Coleman Yes????????

[in_cog_ni_to]

COLEMAN AYE!!!!

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

168. They're Going To Get About 56-57

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

175. I Think They're At 54

[POAS]

169. Coleman aye?

[Graybeard]

183. He can feel Al Franken breathing down his neck...

...he will tack left from now until the election.

[flyarm]

171. COLEMAN AYE!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

176. He's running scared with Al nipping at his heels!!!!

:woohoo:

[Nictuku]

180. He's up for re-election

... against Al Franken

[in_cog_ni_to]

186. I know and he's gonna LOSE.

:hi:

[SCDem]

172. Coleman voted aye - Norm COleman?

If it is maybe he is afraid of Al Franken.

[mikelgb]

174. yep

[LSK]

185. Hes TERRIFIED of Franken and should be

[dogday]

189. The others who voted no will have some explaining

to do... Kids are dying, and they come from every state in the Union... Does not matter what political affiliation you are when your kid comes home in a casket....

[mb7588a]

178. 55-30

coleman, smith, specter, snowe, collins, warner - aye

nelson FL - aye

Lieberman - no

[Coexist]

191. 5 more baby.

[rodeodance]

197. 15 Senators sleeping in or protesting.

[rodeodance]

200. so, repugs could only muster up 30 votes today??

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

184. I Think They Need 6 More

Slow going at this point. Not sure how many Democratic Senators haven't yet voted.

[adigal]

187. I think you need 2/3 of those present

not 2/3 of the whole body, right?

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

193. 60 Votes

[Chichiri]

Wait -- do you need 3/5ths or 2/3rds?

For cloture, I thought it was 3/5ths . . .

[mb7588a]

194. 3/5 of those duly elected = 60.

doesn't matter who is and is not present

[Chichiri]

198. Whew. Okay.

[Clarkie1]

196. They need 60, according to CNN. nt

[NYC Liberal]

199. They're probably all there, though. nt

[POAS]

206. McCain and the Senator that had the stroke absent

[mopinko]

190. if it goes forward, will the R's stick?

or are they just voting yes so they can vote no?

[Coexist]

195. no - if debate closes, it will pass.

my .02

[NYC Liberal]

204. Either way, even with Lieberman's No vote, we only need 1 (R) vote to balance it,

which we have.

[LSK]

207. Wont need the Rs then, only need 50 votes

[POAS]

192. Now they are milling about

nerves geting to some.

Arm twisting to others

[rodeodance]

210. they just said MR. Roberts NO (guess they are not finished)

[SCDem]

212. About being there

My Congressman said that if people are going to vote against their party that they are in and out and don't stick around - usually

[Chichiri]

202. Perhaps a new thread is in order . . . this is getting crowded.

[Coexist]

203. Roberts - no,

[flyarm]

205. HOW LONG WILL THEY KEEP THE VOTE OPEN??? 15 MINUTES??

I know damn well it won't be the 10 hours the rethugs kept the votes open!! lol..or however long they used to keep them open to twist arms and threaten lives!! lol

fly

[LSK]

208. new thread time?

[mb7588a]

209. 55-31 (through Roberts)

coleman, smith, specter, snowe, collins, warner - aye

nelson FL - aye

Lieberman - no

[Coexist]

211. thank you so much for keeping count

:)

[Clarkie1]

213. How many of the 14 remaining are Dems or potential switchovers?

We just need 5 more...

[Coexist]

214. dominichi - no, shelby - no

[POAS]

215. Now it's 55-33

[Coexist]

218. rockefeller - aye

[democrank]

216. Got here late.

Was Senator Clinton able to vote?

[Chichiri]

217. New thread is up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x235587

[welshTerrier2]

220. moved to #3 n/t