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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:16 PM Original message |
Barrack Obama's Cheapest Shot of All: Making Light of Tom Hayden. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama is trying to marginalize Baby Boomers for some reason |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. he is showing his true self |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
153. IF he is the Democratic candidate, I WILL vote for him. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #153 |
189. I'd vote for him too if he is the nominee |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Disparaging Baby Boomers (those damned HIPPIES!!!!) is an |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
188. What I find worse is the "either / or" set-up. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Maybe he's still got Mother issues |
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magnolia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. It's easy... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Sure hope he isn't preparing us |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
114. Must be the new DLC strategy |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #114 |
154. Could you possibly connect that statement to anything in this thread? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
182. It wouldn't be a problem, except I thought the basis of his |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
199. It does seem odd to marginalize such a large bloc of potential voters |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you, David, for your very powerful post and |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Give me an activist over any politician any day of the week. |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
112. Right on, Mr. Zephyr. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
64. I thank you too, David. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
96. OH PLEASE.! THE MELODRAMA! |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obama is losing me |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. I think I see where he's trying to go |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
77. Perceptive analysis |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
140. How right you are. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
95. I know of someone else who |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #95 |
220. ouch |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
124. You want to see 'through' Barry? Then there's only two things you need |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #124 |
155. You want an UNflawed candidate? |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #155 |
175. What's wrong with you? I didn't say I wanted perfection. I said I wanted |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
152. Where he's trying to go is wrong and this statement points out why: |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Well, that made me cry... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. Obama Sister Soulja's Tom Hayden. I've lived too long. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama seems to be jettisoning friends faster than he can make them |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. What is he left with NOW? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Young homophobes? |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Many thanks, DZ. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
74. I hope Barack reads Tom's letter and I hope he crawls under a rock with shame. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
9. Obama lost me |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Same here. nt |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
54. Same here. |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
94. yep |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #94 |
104. He was out of the country during those turbulent times. He has the luxury of being "above it all" |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #104 |
198. actually, he was a baby in those times |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #198 |
208. He was born in what, '61-62? |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
145. Me too. |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. I know exactly how you feel |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The good news is that Obama is showing his true colors so soon. nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. What's Ironic Is That Bobby Kennedy Was A Friend To Richard Daley, Tom Hayden, And Scoop Jackson |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. unfortunately, he is still better the Hillary Inc. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. I'm not sure that is true. nt |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
15. IMHO, If Obama fails to address this, the damage may be irreparable n/t |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
16. Respectfully, I think you are misinterpreting Obama's position and comments. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. i really have a hard time believing |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
50. I'm 58. I don't think I'm in the generation to be jettisoned, frankly. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
67. I'd rather have a 66 year old who gets it |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
98. You tell em', Jefferson_dem. |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
206. What about those of us who, |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. tom is right |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. Wonderful post! Well said, well done. Thank you! |
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feminazi (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
185. I share your thoughts, Scarlet |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
20. Whatever his intentions, |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
24. What is apparent: Barack is TRYING to be Bill Clinton, triangulator extraordinaire when |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
97. Triangulation only works |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #97 |
176. You think Clinton and Lieberman are on different sides? I think they're on the exact same side. |
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azmesa207 (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
148. what is apparent Obama is trying to |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thank you for |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. And, thank you, for your |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
26. Tom's letter is the perfect tongue-lashing from a wise and seasoned man... |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
28. Some Obama comments about Baby Boomers |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Glad you brought that up... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. Good luck to him on getting the Youth of America to go door-to-door for him, like we BB's would have |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
70. I think it is time to move on. I agree with Obama. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #70 |
105. Move on from what? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #70 |
201. True. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:30 AM Response to Reply #28 |
91. I don't see any comments by BO at |
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Doc Martin (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #28 |
123. Thank you, Lisa, for this data |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
30. Not very wise to single anyone |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
34. No respect for those that came before him in the struggle. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Not true. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. His reference to Tom Hayden |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You can type "perception" all day and that'll be all it is... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. He should hire you as his official interpreter. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Um... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
190. Please forgive me, I'm just another one of those addle-brained |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Tom Hayden is "stale, conventional"??????? Whatever. Not even the "divide" is, okay? |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. It seems the "first rule of holes" would apply here. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Not in my book and that's not what I said. |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. Sorry, but I think that's hogwash |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Your post reminds me of the film Sparticus: "I am a Tom Hayden Democrat" |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I dislike the idea of hero-worship, but this man is a real hero to me |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Tom doesn't need us to stick up for him |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
118. Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller are the only "Scoop Jackson" democrats... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #118 |
137. Good call. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #137 |
147. Thank you, sir. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #118 |
156. No. You're a Democrat. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:24 AM Response to Reply #156 |
203. You're right, but... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:41 AM Response to Reply #38 |
85. Deleted message |
jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #85 |
128. That's not what i'm selling, friend. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I just don't think the baby boomers have had their day |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. You're right... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
73. Well, that convinced me. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. As convincing as your hyperbolic post that I replied to. |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 07:00 AM Response to Reply #35 |
92. (((OBAMA))) UNELECTABLE!!! |
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lastout (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
39. WOW! |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
88. A big welcome to the DU, lastout |
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lastout (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #88 |
173. Thanks--- I hope to contribute in a positive way--- |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
42. I started a thread in GD-P saying how much Obama's rhetoric reminds me of Reagan. |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
47. I have from the first been suspicious of Republican money |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #47 |
93. What Republican money are you talking about? |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #47 |
119. Huh? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
51. Obama would have to get a ladder to reach half the stature of Tom..or Jane. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
52. K |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
58. I have ruled Obama out. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:21 AM Response to Reply #58 |
84. He is below Hillary for myself, my friends, and my fam |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
59. Tom Hayden - A prawn of the DLC!!! |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:49 AM Response to Reply #59 |
87. I think you meant 'pawn' rather than 'prawn' |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
146. No, I think Ronny meant prawn. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
61. I just don't understand Obama |
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dancingme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
62. This is a major blow to Tom Hayden's ego |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:44 AM Response to Reply #62 |
86. Haw haw haw. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #62 |
90. You believe that disparaging others |
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Doc Martin (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #62 |
125. He has lost this boomer's support |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
157. Being named the icon of a wing of the Democratic Party is a blow? |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #157 |
197. 76 MILLON, 28% of the U.S. population |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
63. I'm mad. |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I'm thinking we need a president who "knew" the 60s, or was old |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. Yes, 1967! |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #65 |
81. Another picture... |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:44 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Thanks for the pictures. Both very cool. |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #81 |
117. I love your photos |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #81 |
122. Thank You |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
138. Great pictures... |
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blayne (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #81 |
142. Great pictures! |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I read your post. Thank you for it. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. "I reckon nobody will read this post, but I am mad" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. I read it, I agree and I am grateful for your words. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. I read your post. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #63 |
80. I'm glad you posted this. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:13 AM Response to Reply #63 |
89. Dare I say it? Right On! |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #63 |
111. If I could "officially" recommend your post, I would. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
162. I read your post. Thank you for it. |
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Mark Twain Girl (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
71. Thank you. A powerful read -- I've forwarded it on to several people. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #71 |
113. That was my favorite part, too. The extreme situation produced US. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
79. Obama lost me when he pandered to Lieberman. Besides that, |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
83. Obamba. another version of Hillary, who is another version of Bush. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
163. Sorry. That's a lie. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
99. great letter and great post |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
100. K&R...Excellent Post and Comments by others..... |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
101. I think the core of that letter and the whole presidential campaign |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
102. From the book; "Conspiracy In the Streets". |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Zanne, I think you have a valid point about |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #108 |
180. It's complex, all right. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
103. Hayden seems to be misunderstanding or twisting what Obama says |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
106. Sen. Obama, trying to turn kids against their parents. I don't think it will work, but who knows. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. I'm a 55 year-old volunteer for Obama... |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. How do you reconcile his latest statements? Do you personally feel that there is no merit in the |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #110 |
132. Actually, he never said that... |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #132 |
149. Is this not one of his quotes: |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #149 |
161. could you please link where that quote comes from. Thx. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #161 |
194. He said that in a FAUX news interview. You will never see me link to them, but |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #149 |
164. That is his quote. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #164 |
195. What "fights" from the 60's are still being fought to the detriment of the country? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #110 |
179. I'll answer without including your embellishment... |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #179 |
196. "Waste a lot of time organizing marches". Thanks for the clarification. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #109 |
129. Keep it up, zanne. You're doing good work! |
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Bennyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
107. Thanks for posting this....Tom Hayden is one of my heroes |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
115. Tom Hayden and others like him inspired my generation. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
116. Hopefully this will backfire on Obama in Iowa. As someone old |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
120. I didn't see an insult to Hayden in that Obama statement..... |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
121. I wonder if "Scoop" Jackson Democrats will be equally upset? |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
126. All this Obama hate. Shows the hillbots have done their propaganda job well. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #126 |
158. I don't see hate. I see legitimate questions being asked. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #126 |
166. And insulting your fellow Democrats will bring Obama votes? |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #126 |
187. the hillbots as you call them |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #187 |
192. AND acknowledge |
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WileEcoyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
127. The ideological "Middle" is a myth |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #127 |
141. BRA-VO |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #127 |
172. "Right On" |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #127 |
204. Yup... the RW keeps moving right, so this "middle path" BS is just RW-lite |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #204 |
205. Right on!!! |
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Doc Martin (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
130. Tom Hayden "Irish on the Inside" |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #130 |
171. Scoop Jackson has been dead for nearly 25 years. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
131. beautifully written by both you and Mr. Hayden. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
133. DU's cheapest attack of all!! |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Why? |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
135. Beautiful post! |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
136. Tempest in a teapot. Calling someone a Tom Hayden Democrat is not an insult. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #136 |
218. The point is that if Obama isn't damn near perfect, there's no rationale for his candidacy |
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riona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
139. I don't understand some of the candidates in our party |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #139 |
144. Therein lies the rub |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #139 |
150. I have got to recommnend based on your excellent post, flblu2. |
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blayne (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
143. Great post and great letter. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
151. "being beaten and jailed for Civil Rights when Baby Barack was shitting in his diaper" |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
159. What is wrong with what he said? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #159 |
168. A self-hating boomer? |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #168 |
181. Use straw men much? I'm not self hating in the least |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #181 |
184. You DO realize you're characterizing 76 MILLION people |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
160. As a 26 yr old |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
165. I take issue with the concept that Barack cannot criticize Hayden |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #165 |
169. I'm sorry. When did Hayden become a rapist? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #169 |
174. Deleted message |
Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #165 |
186. I don't think that insinuation of word play is appropriate |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #186 |
209. Agreed n/t |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #165 |
219. WTF? "If Hayden decided to rape Michele Obama..." |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
167. Just as I wrote before Obama seems to be and honest and intelligent person |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. No, he needed the road experience. |
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Mrspeeker (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
177. JUST 1 more reason to VOTE 4 KUCINICH! |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
178. He doesn't know... |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
183. Thanks for the post, David |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #183 |
193. And thanks for the kind words, mitchtv |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
191. Thanks for sharing this. |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
200. Tom Hayden speaks for me. And I just remembered--isn't Obama's |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #200 |
207. Joebama! |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
202. I like Obama. He's trying to think outside the box here and really examine things. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
210. i loved hayden's letter to obama |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. NAAA, DUUUU!!! Sehr lang nicht gesehen!!! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #211 |
213. he's positively clintonesque |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #210 |
216. Check the postscript below I posted from Tom |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
212. Beautifully expressed, thank you. n/t |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
214. A postscript and update from Tom Hayden: |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #214 |
215. I have learned a lot from him in person, by example, in the Capitol and a college class |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #214 |
217. me too! and i agree with hayden |
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