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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:39 AM Original message |
Why do so many liberals/progressives take the side of corporations against a private citizen? |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. We have many around here who are delusional and all too... |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I stopped showing my receipts quite a while ago.. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Hah... nothing is black and white. |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Some things are indeed black and white. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Sorry... MOST people don't get worked up. |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
51. So what? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. ... |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Why do you take the side of the corporations? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. See my response in post #58. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. It's compared to the fight for our rights, nothing more. If you aren't doing anything wrong, why |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I also will not compare showing a receipt to having my fucking phone tapped. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
112. It was a reciept, and his bags searched. It's not always the details but the |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. You mean the way they do at ball parks? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
133. You don't have the guts. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. ROFL! |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #114 |
152. Different principle. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. I've said elsehwere in the clusterfuck |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #153 |
162. I haven't read every post. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. I know, I'm just saying that I've said it elsewhere. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #153 |
197. So the refusal of an innocent person to stand in another line to prove |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. See post 198. n/t |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
195. Why not? What's the difference? You are being presumed guilty until |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #195 |
196. Precedent. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #196 |
200. That's a cop out. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #200 |
201. What precedent? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #201 |
228. Slavery went on for thousands of years. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. Oh for fuck's sake. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #229 |
236. More flawless logic. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #236 |
239. More meaningless bullshit. n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #229 |
351. Red, you are no more that sub-subservient lackey of authority... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #351 |
375. Slippery slope fallacy, anyone? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #351 |
382. Hehehe... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
116. Most people are watching American Idol |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. So? |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #116 |
394. you mean Idol Replay |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
321. Here's the logic: You say "showing your reciept is a small inconvenience"- but SOME MIGHT SAY that |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
98. I never thought much about it. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
171. I consider the US Constitution and the 4th amendment |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. Are you positive about that? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #173 |
184. If they forcilbly search you and you did not |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #184 |
192. Sorry but mom & pop shopkeepers do it frequently. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #192 |
203. So if people jump off the brooklin bridge you are willing to |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #203 |
205. That's logic! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #205 |
237. But in ten years it will be fine. Right? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #237 |
241. It's fine now, thanks to Nancy and her co-horts. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #171 |
202. Why don't you just not shop at those stores? (n/t) |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #202 |
216. Yeah, and why not choose another fountain, lunch counter, and bus line, too? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #216 |
247. Are you trying to compare racial discrimination to showing |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #247 |
253. I'm sure people back then didn't see a problem either |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #253 |
273. I understand why but I don't understand the prioritization of this |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #273 |
290. Every time there has been a battle |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #171 |
353. woke up this morning thinking that I did indeed want to surrender |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
193. It might not be a huge deal, but it is a slippery slope. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #193 |
198. It's store policy. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #198 |
207. What? I never signed anything agreeing to this store policy. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. As long as it's posted, you don't have to sign anything. n/t |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #208 |
231. Posted where? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #231 |
232. Look closer. I'm done with this fucking insane bullshit. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #232 |
235. Such language could be taken as a sign of violent tendencies. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #235 |
240. You're a really nice and reasonable person. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #198 |
248. No. It's symptomatic of an increasingly ambient evil of far greater |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #248 |
254. BINGO!!!!!!! |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #254 |
257. It's the normalization and the insidiousness of the process that's so scary; |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #257 |
288. Well the problem is that Muricans still believe |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #288 |
387. I once read a passage by Sartre about a certain mentality, whereby |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #254 |
296. Its called conditioning |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
383. DU has been totally infiltrated - so that requires that a little |
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Donkeykick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. One Word! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. What? |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No.. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. They do it. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. My guess is: |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. You consider showing a receipt to be an encroachment on your liberty? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. How about being unlawfully detained |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. No, the whole thing is fucking stupid. n/t |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. OK |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Yes, whatever. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Submitting to a physical search from a private entity |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
137. If you are white. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. As if other people matter? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Thank goodness for your answers redqueen, cause I wouldn't have the patience.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. Aw, thank you. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #137 |
151. I don't get it, please clarify |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #151 |
167. "20 years ago we did not have to put up with incessant encroachments to our liberty and privacy " |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #167 |
177. "...for the sake of shaving a few bucks off of operating costs." |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Not a corporate entity? |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. Because I don't like being bullied by corporations.. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. 34 years in Retail |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. And what are you citing? n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
373. It's impossible to prove that a store asking for receipts is illegal? |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. i don't have the citation |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. 'pick your battles' |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. picking my battles: |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You wouldn't call the cops? Like this guy did? n/t |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. if it got to that point |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
106. It's not like Costco actually checks everything in your cart anyway.. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. Actually in my state, the business owner can't legally detain you |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Is refusal to show a receipt not enough to cause a store manager to suspect |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. If you've set a person up front to check everybody's receipt, yes, in our state it is. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Stop fucking calling me a 'sheeple' please. |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. If the shoe fits.. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I'm not taking their side! |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Yes you are taking their side.. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Reading comprehension. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #69 |
304. They have a right to ask |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
109. Rosa was looking for a fight and she got one too. Over which damn seat she sat in. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Rosa was discriminated on BASED ON HER RACE. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #117 |
278. Your whole premise is wrong. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
105. If you go back and reread my posts, you'll see that I'm not calling you a sheeple |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Well, since I'm someone who dosen't mind the whole receipt-showing business... |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
131. Property Rights, Here. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #131 |
170. If I go into the store knowing that's their policy, then yeah, they have that right. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #170 |
279. You are proof of the slippery-slope. |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
134. Indeed |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #134 |
172. EXACTLY! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #134 |
210. The store can clearly ask. What can they do when I politiely decline their request? |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
9. Because it was a stupid small thing. The guy made a mountain out of a molehill. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. The only problem with a "stupid, small thing" |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Being falsly imprisoned is such a small stupid thing. |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. No, no. He was not imprisoned for refusing to show his receipt. Go back & read his story. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. What was he imprisioned for then? |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
276. When the store security refused to allow him to leave.. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. So is "Showing your papers" |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
211. Eggzactly, do we get to arrest Wal Mart for overcharging when they have |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. so did someone sitting in the front of a bus 50 some years ago |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. You are very silly to think that's an appropriate analogy. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. so I am required to carry my license everywhere I go now??? |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. No. Wow. And the guy in the story was within his rights not to show his license. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I am actually fine with stores checking receipts |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Being unlawfully detained |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
100. In Bush's America? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. oh for the love of god |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
96. When the store manager blocked the closin of the car door |
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lips (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Store owners insist that every shopper must be delinquent... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
80. And what about any of us berating Reps for not standing up for our rights? |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. I do not think refusing to show a receipt relates to habeas corpus or torture renditions. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. All based on the willingness to give away rights |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #90 |
102. Oh, okay, I see now. The scales are falling from my eyes even as I type. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #102 |
262. Whoa. I'm not the one advocating people roll over and do as told |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #262 |
268. You know who's whining? The man in this story. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #268 |
270. HE'S giving lessons on being an American |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #270 |
272. I hope the judge gives him a lesson on wasting the court's time. I hope he gets the justice |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #272 |
291. The man was arrested and the cop didn't even know what for |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #272 |
301. Has your brain has been wired wrong by watching too much People's Court or something? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:49 AM Response to Reply #268 |
300. What does it matter about the guy's motives? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #268 |
309. Free hint |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
215. No, the COP MADE A MOUNTAIN OUT OF THIN AIR. And it's called "false arrest". |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
218. It was small, but not unimportant. As these threads show. |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #218 |
251. The problem is, mustang, that there are two separate occurrences in the story— |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #251 |
298. The guy called 911 because he was being unlawfully detained.. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
21. I think it's the "I wouldn't bother doing that" so attack anyone that would ... syndrome. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I think the problem is the reverse. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. I agree with Tahiti Nut here. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Guts? To refuse to show a receipt? |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. LOL! Please stay. Surely you are appreciating the entertainment value. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. ... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
60. Consider ... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. How do we know this guy does anything besides get into scuffles with retail employees? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Again ... nobody is attacking your choices. Not even him. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. WTF? Lots of people attack my choices. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. So, do you enjoy the opportunity to prove you're not a thief? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. It doesn't bother me, no. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Paraphrasing: "If you've done nothing wrong, why would you care?" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Shades of grey my friend. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #89 |
110. It's interesting how our personal exposure affects that "shade of grey." |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Well I'm a woman and those cameras don't bother me. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #113 |
302. So cameras in dressing rooms and bathrooms don't bother you either. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #89 |
249. I'm pretty sure that's the point... n/t |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
161. Nicely said. /nt |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
212. It's all the same battle. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Well said n/t |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
32. It's the success of capitalistic propaganda |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
39. Television propaganda. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
41. DLC is pro-corporations, |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
48. And how many of them decry elected reps for doing the same? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
53. And how many of them are all for Al Gore? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
57. It's not taking the side of corporations, it's... |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. I suppose it's fair to allow the system not to follow it's own rules |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
59. In case you haven't noticed, there are thieves. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. No, this is the next Rosa Parks we're lookin at! |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
95. OMG! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
79. Ubetcha "there are thieves"!! They're EVERYWHERE. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
82. And there are terrorists. Turn over your rights |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
108. In case you haven't noticed, there are terrorists. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
62. What the hell? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
68. I think it's just kind of sad... |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
70. i don't choose sides between corporations and citizens |
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Magrittes Pipe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I wish I could reccomend individual posts. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Hey |
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Magrittes Pipe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Ah, but it goes without saying, m'dear. |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
159. hey let's give credit where credit is due.... |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
187. I wish I could recommend YOUR post!! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
87. Paraphrasing: "If you've done nothing wrong, why would you care?" |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
164. big difference between the governement saying that |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #164 |
206. You would think, yes. n/t |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
126. This is all very interesting |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #70 |
189. They only have the right to detain you |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #70 |
217. How about if you just refuse to show your receipt instead? n/t |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #217 |
246. how about if Circuit City refuses to sell you their goods? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #246 |
255. Fine with me. What I have a problem with is when they smile at me when |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:40 AM Response to Reply #246 |
317. Sounds like a good idea |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
78. Authoritarians are your neighbors too. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
84. I see it as a matter of picking your battles. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. It seems to some, the receipt inspecing is just as bad as the spying. |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
103. Because receipt checking is a form of spying.. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #103 |
129. If the store has its policy posted, you tacitly agree to it by entering. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #129 |
264. Wrong. Again. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #103 |
146. What??? |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
188. um |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #84 |
219. Minor but ubiquitous. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #219 |
224. I've been trying to make a similar point on another thread |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
91. because it is not progressive to champion the cause of self-righteous assholes. Thats conservative |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. ... |
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Magrittes Pipe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. You kick ass. |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. The manager was the asshole |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. you are extremely easily lead, aren't you? The author of that piece was looking to start shit |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 05:03 AM Response to Reply #104 |
327. When did you learn to read minds? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #327 |
370. Even from his own account, he comes off like an asshole, That should tell you something |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
97. It blows my mind too |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. I doubt I'll get a reasonable explanation.. |
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justanaveragedude (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
111. So let me get this straight.. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #111 |
119. Hello there justanaveragedude! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #111 |
124. If you really did have a problem, your merchandise would most likely |
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justanaveragedude (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. I agree.. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #128 |
190. Apparently, |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #111 |
221. When and where do your customers agree to your new policy? |
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justanaveragedude (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #221 |
256. When they walk into the store and |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #256 |
265. Well, you'd be 100% wrong then, Justice Bork. |
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justanaveragedude (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #265 |
269. Asking for a receipt to verify purchase = Detainment? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #269 |
303. Of course not. You may ask me anything. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #256 |
311. Wrong answer |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
115. Because asking for receipt upon exit is relatively routine in some stores and in some communities |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
118. I believe the ACLU's stance is that if the store has a sign saying |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. but, hey, what does the ACLU know, right? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #120 |
140. The ACLU supports the EVIL, FACIST CORPORATIONS?! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #118 |
222. I believe that you are fertilizing this thread. n/t |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #118 |
225. The ACLU is a Bush loving organization. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
121. I don't understand what the big deal is about showing a receipt |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. yes, I don't get it either |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #125 |
399. Nope, no profiling going on here |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. "I have my receipt in hand" = "Just following orders" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #127 |
166. So now if you agree to show a receipt, you're a NAZI?! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #166 |
305. No, but you are a sheep. n/t |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #121 |
142. Key Words: "You Purchased" |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #142 |
168. Yes, it's the principle that bothers me. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #121 |
312. And some of us don't see what the big deal is about not showing a receipt. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
123. I'm not going to jump to a conclusion |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
130. Hold it, hold it, hold it. |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
132. They're a minority. Just vocal. /nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #132 |
148. Yeah, that pesky, vocal ACLU. n/t |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #148 |
154. Wrong side. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #154 |
157. The ACLU is on the side of the evil fascist corporation in this case. |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. Are they? I haven't seen that yet. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. I tried to find one, but their website isn't so easy to search. n/t |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #163 |
245. This is not direct from the ACLU so it's not verified, but |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #245 |
266. Katz says you have a right to refuse. You do. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
135. Pretty broad brush you paint with |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. yup... intentionally broad, it seems |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
144. That one side is a private citizen and the other a corporation does |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
145. Make no mistake-There are many freepers and rethugs hanging around here that walk a fine line |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #145 |
280. nice. A person named "TheGoldenRule" advocating treating other people like shit |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #280 |
338. First off, I didn't advocate anything-I pointed out the truth. Funny how you are so touchy |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #338 |
365. so its just a coincidence that you called half of this site closeted freepers, and |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #365 |
391. WTF? Exactly when did the word "many" become "half"? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #391 |
392. stuff it, you're the one who started out by calling anyone who didn't worship your hero a freeper |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #392 |
393. Take a chill pill dude. nt |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
147. Here's Another Guy Making a Mountain Out of a Molehill |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #147 |
155. wow.. .rosa parks, the boston tea party, and now this |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #147 |
194. Here's another guy making a mountain out of a molehill |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:34 AM Response to Reply #194 |
323. Yeah. This is EXACTLY like Extraordinary Rendition. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #323 |
388. For all intents and purposes |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #388 |
389. Have you ever worked a retail job in your life? I have. And I didn't work for "big brother", either. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
149. Here's my reason |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #149 |
158. Oooh that is a somewhat telling remark, isn't it? n/t |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #149 |
259. It is conservatives.. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
150. I don't understand what all of the fuss is about? |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #150 |
169. see my post #126 |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #169 |
283. Slippery sloping? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #283 |
306. Once again, what does it matter whether YOU PERSONALLY think this is "big deal" or not? |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #306 |
336. Just offering my own perspective on the issue |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #336 |
354. I don't steal stuff. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
156. Who said they're "liberals/progressives"??? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #156 |
174. Yeah, no kidding... who says anyone who jumps on a |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #174 |
191. My take is as follows: |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #156 |
250. Yes, it's an indication of their fear of DU's influence. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
175. Damnit you caught me - I'm a freeper |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
176. I never show my recepit. I just say no thanks. |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
179. Because some private citizens are jackasses. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #179 |
182. Hmmm |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
180. My $0.02 |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
181. I think it is a stupid policy. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
183. Great post VR |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
185. 3 little words: pick your battles |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. This isn't about defending shoplifters and you know it. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #185 |
204. You're right - all of this is a waste of good energy |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #204 |
209. You are still under the juristiction of local law enforcement. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #209 |
214. Right - let me clarify my point |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #214 |
220. Exactly my point. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #220 |
227. Yes I see |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:10 AM Response to Reply #204 |
307. And what gives them the right to touch you in the store without any cause? n/t |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #307 |
390. They can't do that either |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #185 |
226. It matters because it happens to YOU every time you shop there |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #226 |
242. Which is the "they" you speak of? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #242 |
261. You are talking out of your posterior. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
213. THANK YOU. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #213 |
223. If winkydink was thanking me for my previous responce(209), |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #223 |
234. It was to the OP, but to you, as well, come to think of it! |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
230. As someone who worked in retail, I take a different tact |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #230 |
285. You might be right about this: |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #285 |
381. Oh, yeah |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #381 |
397. I thought so. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
233. how did these libertarian trolls get on this website? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #233 |
243. So you have to be libertarian to care about civil liberties? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #233 |
252. Agreed about the 'slippery slope' arguments. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #233 |
341. the Slippery Slope Argument is considered a Logical Fallacy |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #341 |
356. It is a logical fallacy when the "slippery slope" is characterized as inevitable. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #356 |
359. What you say v. what my college Professor said... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #359 |
364. What did he say then? Could you explain to us why it's a logical fallacy |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
238. Riddle me this - My state allows concealed carry |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #238 |
260. Also read my responce in post 258, |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
244. Because I'm against shoplifting.... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #244 |
258. Curious, |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #258 |
267. They don't trust their own underpaid & poorly treated cashiers. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #267 |
274. Quite possibly. |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #258 |
275. They have to cover the cost of lost goods |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #275 |
281. The covering of the costs of stolen merchandise |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #281 |
284. I'm sorry, but this clown isn't Rosa fucking Parks. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #284 |
289. Methinks you're in reverse with this. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
263. They never had freedom |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
271. I just don't fucking know. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
277. Good Question |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #277 |
282. Seeing as how DUers shop for Chinese products |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
286. "There's no law that says I can't piss all over this toilet seat!" |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #286 |
292. I guess they caught you doing that didn't they. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #292 |
315. Haryuk Haryuk Haryukkkk. |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #286 |
293. WTF |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #293 |
297. He was trying to slander me is all |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:26 AM Response to Reply #297 |
316. I was trying to slander YOU? Cap'n Solipsism, I don't have the faintest idea who the fuck you ARE. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:46 AM Response to Reply #293 |
318. Actually, let's see what you yourself had to say at the top of the thread: |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #286 |
308. Clear as mud. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:15 AM Response to Reply #308 |
314. Oh, for fuck's sake. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:27 AM Response to Reply #314 |
320. In short, you think every shopper is guilty until proven innocent. n/t |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:29 AM Response to Reply #320 |
322. I think that if people don't want to be subjected to the scrutiny of store security |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:47 AM Response to Reply #322 |
324. If you have probable cause, then detain me. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #324 |
339. No, *I* won't be involved at all, because my years of working shitty retail jobs and having |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:58 AM Response to Reply #322 |
326. They have a time honored method of catching shoplifters |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
287. Corporations like, uh, Disney - who had Chinese make his precious purchase? /nt |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #287 |
294. Let me get this straight. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #294 |
295. It makes me someone |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #295 |
299. I don't care if he is scum, that's not the subject matter here. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:39 AM Response to Reply #299 |
313. If only the Bill of Rights had list them as restrictions against |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #295 |
310. Great lawyering, jberryhill. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #310 |
330. Challenge Corporate authority? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #330 |
334. What does it matter about the guy's motives? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #334 |
344. Read my analysis below |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #310 |
332. Challenge Corporate Authority.... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #332 |
335. My point is that you are attacking the guy who got arrested to avoid the actual legal issues. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #335 |
340. You are avoiding my other posts |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #340 |
345. Yes, he finally answered and is saying that: |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #345 |
363. If you are an attorney, you need disbarred |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #340 |
347. Ummm ... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #347 |
362. Laugh all you want |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #362 |
366. So now the issue is ME personally? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #366 |
378. LOL |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #378 |
384. Except he was legally in the right while your arguments are not. n/t |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
319. Someone needs to start a smoking ban thread so the crowd comparing this dude to Rosa Parks has |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:07 AM Response to Reply #319 |
329. You know just about all the time I find myself in agreement with you;.. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #329 |
343. I get worried when I agree with anyone 100%, around here. |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
325. Hey, does anyone here have some spare popcorn? |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #325 |
401. Can you show these idiots proof that you bought that popcorn? |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
328. Years and years ago....like over 30 years ago... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
331. I think it's insulting. |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
333. Iam dumbfounded by the question. What makes you think that |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #333 |
337. Once again and very slowly |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #337 |
342. whooohoooo n/t |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #337 |
346. Once again and very slowly to you & appears cannnot get it simple |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #346 |
348. It's not illegal to have a policy to ask for a receipt check/bag inspection. |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #348 |
349. Is all this clear? Yes, this post has been clear from the beginning |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #349 |
350. The point is that, legally, receipt/bag inspections must always be voluntary. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #350 |
355. I'm sorry to say the fools just don't get it. |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #349 |
352. And the point is, the store has the right to adopt their policies as they |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #352 |
357. Stores do not have the right |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #357 |
360. The store does have that right and I will tell you the same thing. If |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #360 |
368. No store has the right to detain you against your will without cause. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #352 |
358. I've never claimed that this is a Fourth Amendment issue. |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #358 |
361. I know you didn't mention the Fourth Admendment but you were talking |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #361 |
367. Again, unless a store has probable cause to suspect shoptlifting, the store |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #367 |
371. And I say that if you had Circuit City's account there probably was every |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #371 |
374. If the whole thing STARTED with the guy's refusal to show his receipt |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #361 |
369. Stores don't have to observe other people's rights????????? |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #369 |
372. Who said anything about any civil rights being violated? |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #372 |
376. Store policies DO NOT CARRY THE WEIGHT OF LAW |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #376 |
379. Neither do you. You are in their store, on their property. No civil rights |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
377. Because many people who choose to call themselves liberals... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #377 |
380. TOO LATE |
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joe_sixpack (655 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
385. Blockbuster video |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #385 |
386. The placing of sensors |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #385 |
398. The Practice Has Always Irked Me And I Avoid Stores That |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
395. Wowk, I had no idea this thread was going to get so long.. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #395 |
396. Could you elaborate further on this? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
400. Who knows? They also routinely take the side of management against labor. |
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