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DemocratSinceBirth
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:35 PM Original message |
Poll question: What Best Describes Your Attitude Toward Gun Ownership |
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Jackpine Radical
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Gun laws are the third rail of electoral politics in rural America. |
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Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I have a friend living in the country and I've advised her to get a rifle. |
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youthere
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. with or without wings? |
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flamin lib
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. 12 gauge pump shortened to the legal limt with a pistol grip. Load it |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Aug-08-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Had three different cops on three different occasions all tell me the same thing |
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flamin lib
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Wed Aug-08-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Cheaper to invest the $500 in a good alarm system that makes |
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Xithras
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. Alarm systems don't deter rural criminals. |
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karlrschneider
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Yep. Our nearest neighbor has a LOUD alarm setup, it goes off by mistake |
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Jim Warren
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
50. Like that family in Connecticutt had? |
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Kingshakabobo
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
84. Did they have an alarm?? I thought the killers cam in through an unlocked door.. |
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Buns_of_Fire
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Thu Aug-09-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
105. What you need is an alarm system, with a few speakers, that makes the SOUND |
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Oldenuff
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Thu Aug-09-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
110. an alarm system? |
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derby378
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Wed Aug-08-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. If that were true, though... |
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LanternWaste
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Because he was recommending it for home defense value only |
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TahitiNut
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Wed Aug-08-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. 20-gauge tactical pump with #3 shot in 2 3/4" load |
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Bake
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Fri Aug-10-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
148. Plus, you don't have to be as accurate ... |
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scrinmaster
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. As long as it still has the buttstock, and you use 00 buck instead of birdshot, |
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flamin lib
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. 00 buck is 38 cal and will penetrate interior walls with enough |
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krispos42
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Fri Aug-10-07 04:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
127. Use #1 buck |
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aikoaiko
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
47. Everybody draws their lines differently when considering penetration |
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beevul
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Indeed. |
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piedmont
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. You forgot "Some gun restrictions should be relaxed or abolished." |
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Which Ones |
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ThomWV
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Wed Aug-08-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. You're dam right. In some states guns are effectively outlawed as it is |
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Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Handguns and rifles need to be considered separately. nt |
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PDJane
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. I haven't had a gun for years....... |
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Jackpine Radical
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Wed Aug-08-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Sane cultures are for wimps. |
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PDJane
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Wed Aug-08-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Isn't there a chinese curse that says.... |
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Jackpine Radical
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Wed Aug-08-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I betcha 2/3 of the people on this board could quote that curse to you. |
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Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-08-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. It's weird when you compare crime patterns between Toronto and Buffalo. Sad, really. nt |
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hootinholler
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. My attitude is buy quality. n/t |
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mvd
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Wed Aug-08-07 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'm in favor of licensing, |
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Sapere aude
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Wed Aug-08-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. I know this isn't a popular point of view but the gun laws won't prevent gun violence. |
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Apollo11
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Thu Aug-09-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. How about non-junkies making drug laws? |
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iverglas
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
65. "Those who will obey the gun laws are not the ones who commit gun violence." |
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Fresh_Start
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Wed Aug-08-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'm safe and competent and deserve to own guns.... |
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slackmaster
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Wed Aug-08-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. Choice 1 is a good start - I would add the following |
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derby378
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Wed Aug-08-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Sounds good to me |
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scrinmaster
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Thu Aug-09-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Remove silencers, SBR's, SBS's, and AOW's from the NFA. |
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slackmaster
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I think use of sound suppressors should be encouraged |
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Fla_Democrat
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Wed Aug-08-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
21. Hmmmm |
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B Calm
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Wed Aug-08-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
23. When you think about it, the right to own a gun is a very LIBERAL IDEA. |
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iverglas
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
66. one more reason why I'm not a liberal |
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Kingshakabobo
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
86. I think the jury is still out on that. |
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iverglas
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. no, no; I'm definitely not a liberal |
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Mugu
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Wed Aug-08-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. Too many laws already. |
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benEzra
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
28. My wife and I own guns, and would like to keep them... |
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Oldenuff
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
29. I don't mean to argue |
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Jim Warren
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
53. Go ahead and mean to argue |
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iverglas
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. really?? |
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Jim Warren
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Not Canadians |
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iverglas
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I hate to repeat myself |
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piedmont
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
111. He means we're not going to tell Canadians, not just that we won't need them. |
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iverglas
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Thu Aug-09-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #111 |
120. some mighty bad cases of ADD around here |
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piedmont
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Fri Aug-10-07 01:39 AM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Whining about sense and its making will get you nowhere. We're still not telling. nt |
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havocmom
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
115. Not a liberal, but the jury is coming in on the jerk thing |
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iverglas
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Thu Aug-09-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. aw |
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Dragonbreathp9d
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
31. Either everyone is issued a gun, or its really hard to get them |
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havocmom
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
116. Issued? Unless you have certain criminal history or mental infirmity, |
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
32. Repeal some of the laws/Executive Orders already on the books. |
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scrinmaster
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. These are all good too. |
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TransitJohn
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
33. I travel internationally a lot for work |
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Jim Warren
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. None of the above |
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bunkerbuster1
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Walking/chewing gum simultaneously... |
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Jim Warren
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I'm happy for the progress you've made |
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Oldenuff
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Thu Aug-09-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
109. cooking the frog... |
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IndianaJones
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
41. Love my guns. nt. |
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Blue-Jay
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Do they love you back? |
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IndianaJones
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Certainly, when they perform flawlessly in taking down what I am aiming at. nt. |
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aikoaiko
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Thu Aug-09-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
48. I chose option 1, but there are a lot of stupid laws that should be repealed or ended. |
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devilgrrl
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
51. Other: Who gives a rat's ass? |
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You Cared Enough To Post |
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devilgrrl
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Oh well! |
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Squatch
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I do! |
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devilgrrl
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. BFD. |
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Squatch
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Then what are you doing here? |
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devilgrrl
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I'm here annoying you. |
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piedmont
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #72 |
112. I have to admit you're very good at that. |
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Squatch
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
54. We need ONE STANDARD for gun laws |
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Jim Warren
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. OK |
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Sanctified
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Vermont has the most liberal gun laws in the entire United States. |
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Jim Warren
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. A-yut |
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benEzra
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Fri Aug-10-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #57 |
131. Sounds good to me... |
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napi21
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. For transport of guns, I agree with you. For ownership it should be |
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Squatch
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. What differences do you see in these requirements? |
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napi21
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Thu Aug-09-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
104. German? I suspect it's an indian origin. Everyone who legally owns |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
56. I voted for registration. |
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WA98072
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. I used to be for registration but who would you trust with the list? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Red Dawn, right? |
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Squatch
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. California, 1999 and 2000 |
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WA98072
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. How about criminals? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Do you register your car, WA? |
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WA98072
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. For the purpose of paying taxes, it would be against the second amendment |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Thu Aug-09-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
101. We're not talking about taxes. |
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benEzra
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Fri Aug-10-07 07:13 AM Response to Reply #63 |
132. Australia, UK, California, New York City... |
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Bosso 63
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Fri Aug-10-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
152. Wolverines!!!! |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
59. Ought to be just like a car. |
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Squatch
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Including baseball bats and ball-peen hammers? |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. No, you can still pick up a rock if you want, too. |
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Sanctified
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
80. Driving a Car is a privilege not a right. |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Licensing and registration are not an infringement of the right to keep and bear arms. |
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Sanctified
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. If a license is denied you are denying a right. |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. "License and Registration is nothing but a method of control" |
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Sanctified
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. You have the right to free speech on your property |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Suppose "societies rules" say you have to register your guns? |
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Sanctified
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Thu Aug-09-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Society can dictate whatever they want as long as it does not go against the Constitution. |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. So, where do you think the Constitution came from? |
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Sanctified
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Thu Aug-09-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. You completely misunderstand the Constitution. |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. My point was that it comes from the people. |
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benEzra
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Fri Aug-10-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #106 |
147. The purpose of government is to protect the rights of the people, |
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bemildred
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Fri Aug-10-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #147 |
153. "regulation" is not the same thing as "keeping people in line" |
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iverglas
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Thu Aug-09-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #80 |
107. huh |
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EstimatedProphet
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. Not true |
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iverglas
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Thu Aug-09-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. not real good at reading? |
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EstimatedProphet
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Fri Aug-10-07 07:42 AM Response to Reply #118 |
134. Not true, once again |
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WA98072
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
83. I"ll take a test and get a license but that doesn't mean I own a gun |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. I think a well armed citizenry is a good idea. |
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EstimatedProphet
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
89. No, you don't |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. True, so I omitted the phrase "on public highways". Big deal. |
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EstimatedProphet
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #91 |
113. It is a big deal though |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #113 |
121. Split hairs all you want, the analogy is perfectly clear, even if it is not clearly perfect. nt |
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EstimatedProphet
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Fri Aug-10-07 06:33 AM Response to Reply #121 |
128. The analogy does not apply. That was my point. |
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bemildred
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Fri Aug-10-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #128 |
133. The analogy does apply, that was my point. |
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EstimatedProphet
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Fri Aug-10-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one |
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bemildred
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Fri Aug-10-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #135 |
144. Indeed. Thanks for the conversation. nt |
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slackmaster
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Fri Aug-10-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #59 |
139. You don't need a license to own a car or to drive it on private property, race tracks, etc. |
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bemildred
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Fri Aug-10-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #139 |
143. And a gun is not a car, too, so it doesn't need roads ... |
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sutz12
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Thu Aug-09-07 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
73. We need to properly enforce the laws already in place before we add any new ones. |
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Hawkowl
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Thu Aug-09-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
88. I don't own a gun |
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stirlingsliver
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
92. Only Law Enforcement and the Military Should Have Guns. |
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bemildred
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Oh good ... |
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Yukari Yakumo
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Nothing like an easy transistion to a Police State with that scenario... {nt} |
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Jim Warren
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. I love a quiz. |
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benEzra
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Thu Aug-09-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #92 |
108. My wife and I are keeping ours, thanks. |
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Jim Warren
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Thu Aug-09-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #108 |
122. Bad |
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scrinmaster
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Thu Aug-09-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Kobra collimator sight. |
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benEzra
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Fri Aug-10-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #122 |
129. A Kobra collimator sight, made in Russia by Axion. |
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Yukari Yakumo
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
95. You forgot the "Gun Laws should be Relaxed/Reduced" option. |
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Stinky The Clown
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Thu Aug-09-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
117. I can't give a soundbite answer. I oppose them but side with Democratic gun owners and their views. |
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lancer78
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Fri Aug-10-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #117 |
126. So what you are saying |
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Fri Aug-10-07 07:08 AM Response to Reply #126 |
130. I actually question the interpretation of the Constitution on this matter |
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Fri Aug-10-07 07:49 AM Response to Reply #117 |
137. Fair enough |
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Stinky The Clown
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Fri Aug-10-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #137 |
141. Here's a knee-jerk response ...... |
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Posteritatis
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Fri Aug-10-07 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
125. Missing option: "Conflicted." |
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Fri Aug-10-07 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
136. guns shoud be allowed but controlled, and all assault weapons should be totally banned |
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Fri Aug-10-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. But what defines an assault weapon? |
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Fri Aug-10-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. Aren't half the definitions of "assault weapon" purely aesthetic anyway? |
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Fri Aug-10-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Yes, that was one of the AWB weaknesses |
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Fri Aug-10-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #145 |
149. The "grenade launchers" in the ban were a red herring, |
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Fri Aug-10-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #136 |
140. Real AK-47s and other selective-fire weapons are practically banned now |
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Fri Aug-10-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #136 |
142. Nobody is talking about automatic weapons. |
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Fri Aug-10-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
150. Guns don't kill people.... |
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Fri Aug-10-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. Bullets kill people. |
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Sat Aug-11-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #151 |
157. People with guns with bullets kill people. |
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Fri Aug-10-07 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
154. All cars need to be registered and nobody fusses. |
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Fri Aug-10-07 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
155. We have need of these weapons as a deterrent |
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Fri Aug-10-07 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
156. I own several and have NO plans to give them up. In fact, I may |
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