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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 05:57 PM Original message |
So the Senate unanimously declared that Iran was committing acts of war against the US |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. been trying to tell folks but |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Denial is easier |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The vote was 97-0. I don't want to hear one Dem excuse that they didn't know what the vote meant. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. oh if we only knew then what we know now |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. "They have access to intelligence that we don't have" |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I hate that one. There is no way to fight it until after the fact. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Well it's so well worked this long... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. There's no "ABOUT to stab us all in the back" -- they've already done it! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Yes, you're right. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. Well, I don't know about "we" backing the "top tier" candidates -- I sure as hell ain't. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. I agree sw |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. This is just all too much to bear. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. neocons, both dem and repuke are like the Transformers |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. My "boys" are 32 and 23, and live out of state -- I won't be seeing the movie, but I've |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 07:19 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. that is exactly what they are |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. I'll write-in Dennis Kucinich if it come to that. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Same here |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. If there's a way to do a write-in on the ballot, I guess I'll do that also. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
92. I'm still hoping Wes Clark will run |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. I give up |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. And... |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. You're gonna do it. |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. There was a lot of talk at the |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. This all seems like incredible lunacy. |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. well...maybe that is one of the goals of the whole thing... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. No, These TREASONOUS Legislators "Never forget who they're truly working for ..." |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
69. No, it will be an aerial bombardment that lasts and lasts. No invasion for the |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
70. I suspect that they will use this "need" to sell the idea of private armies |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Privatize military completely. America, the mercenary tyrant. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
89. I'm not optimistic about the American people not being fooled again. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
94. Isn't it obvious that "the people" are irrelevant? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. .... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
9. AND, Iran is cooperating with IAEA on inspections of nuclear program: |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I saw that this morning. How fucking fabricated is all this? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. IMO it has been for quite awhile. I posted |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
72. How could Saddam have anything to do with 9/11 or AQ |
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Zucca (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. "cooperation" only after we start getting serious? |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Yeah, the lone voice of reason is the one whooping it up for war |
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Zucca (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. Try reading my post before responding ... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
65. So, you signed up? Sending YOUR kids? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #32 |
77. Hey, "voice of reason", what part of "can't build a bomb for ten years" don't you understand? |
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Zucca (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. "cooperation" only after we start getting serious? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Bullshit! It matters not even if Iran has Nuclear Power, Persians are NOT Stupid!!! |
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Zucca (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Did you even read my post? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. I did read your post pal. And I don't appreciate any implication to the contrary. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. Not only that, but we are also fighting for oil and the currency in which it is traded... |
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Phrogman (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 06:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
76. The US has wrecked Iran's neighbors with war and Israel is threatening to attack her |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #76 |
95. exactly. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
13. Is it a non-binding Declaration of War? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Nope. It's about justifying what is to follow. |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. is this the correct vote ? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. It appears to be. Lieberman's Amendment |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Yep. That's the one -- thanks to Lieberman... (nt) |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. Dumb a**ed Senators best be prepared to sent THEIR loved ones to go kill and die in Iran. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
22. k&r |
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BlackHawk706867 (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
23. In addition to all of the above, if this were to happen it gives Bush the |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. Who is Marshall? n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
24. Is this why Karl Rove said Iraq would not be the big issue in 2008? |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. Why did all those Democrats vote for this? (nm) |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. These Senators voted for this because they care more about their CAREERS in The Senate ... |
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Zucca (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Could be to show a strong and united front for negotiations. |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. "Why did all those Democrats vote for this?" |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
27. yep--this made my jaw drop yesterday, but it has slipped under the door |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. No wonder impeachment is off the table. We won't have time with WWIII nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Deleted message |
depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. I think that's going to be the tone of 2008 |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I despise "the gutless" more than my political enemies. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Every collaborator holds a special seat in Hell. nt |
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RufusEarl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
39. Ever Senator, has a military industrial complex business in their district. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
44. K&R |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
46. Someone please post the legislative text portion that the OP refers to... |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. The OP is somewhat "excited" and must have missed some vital |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. I read the amendment (see other post) and I'm sorry to say that |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
88. And, furthermore, here's a letter from the White House to Levin related to the matter |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. that's frightening. I suppose congress responded with vigor, denying that |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. Here's the link to the amendment. Filled with hearsay... |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. DUrs and others will hopefully look at all the quotes and speculation and |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
55. On the bright side (if there is one), this amendment is not |
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Nunyabiz (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
57. Like I been saying for over a year now |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Force won't work. nt |
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Nunyabiz (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Like hell it wont |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #59 |
80. It's the only language bullies understand. And force is pretty much working for BushCo and big oil |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. You have more and bigger weapons than the government? nt |
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Nunyabiz (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Yes, its called 300,000,000 angry Americans |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 05:11 AM Response to Reply #85 |
98. I don't think we would even need to pick up guns. A good old riot like in France |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
63. Oh boy! More flagwaving and "toughness" from our heroic senators. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
68. The pro-Iranian faction in Iraq fucking CONTROLS the place-- |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
74. well that's too bad. and i was really getting attached to the idea of a recovering america |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
79. Yep, Nikki, and that's why I am so disillusioned |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
81. Wes Clark and Dennis Kucinich talk sense about Iran |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
82. The human race seems suicidal at times. I don't know how I |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
83. i'm going to say it once again. |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
84. tidbits |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
86. Well I trust my congresspeople because they must have info I don't have |
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JacquesMolay (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
90. Ah, the Senate. Land of THE SYSTEM. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Tragedy of Comity |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
96. You need three big wars simultaneously to avoid impeachment --- |
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antimindcrime (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
97. *important* N/T |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
99. kicking this out from the memory hole... (nt) |
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