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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:18 AM
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Obama's Victory Speech
 
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:21 AM
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1. One of the best political speeches I have heard.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:33 AM
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18. U should get out more . Listen to FDR speeches.
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:49 AM
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22. LOL
perfect - :rofl: I thought I was the only person thinking that this morning

same goes for Churchill !
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:41 AM
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24. I think you were. You responded to your own message. LOL
I'm not 80 so I wasn't here to "hear" FDR speeches (or Churchill). I think when people say that, they mean one of the best they have heard "in their lifetime."
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:45 PM
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37. Goober...like all speeches you can listen online.
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Nick_Irving Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 07:10 AM
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44. Obama Funds War
Barack Obama funds war.

This video makes it crystal clear.

"Attention Democrat Voters: Who's Progressive?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_WBT35CKBs

watch it.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:21 AM
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2. Thank you!
Emailing this to everyone, so those who may have missed it get to see it and those who want to re-experience it and/or save it can do so.

:patriot:

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insanad Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:09 AM
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25. What makes a GREAT leader
A true leader is not one who bullies or manipulates people and organizations to do his bidding, or whose leadership can be purchased by special interests, or who caters to whatever the polls dictate. A true leader is one who educates himself and staff on the important issues at hand, who weighs the options and outcomes of each decision, who is willing to listen to people that he may not agree with or like and still respect their position. A good leader is able to pull together opposing sides and come to a healthy balanced compromise that benefits the most on both sides.

A good leader is one who shows grace under the constant glare of public light. A good leader is one who can motivate, inspire, and show by example the value of action and work toward a common goal. A good leader represents the best in himself/herself, and all of us in the choices to do good, say good things, act upon good instincts, and enact good laws. A good leader creates a setting where many people of diverse cultures, religions, races, and motives can come together to reach balanced treaties. A good leader will show strength of character, conviction, and universal values by his decisions, both in his personal life as well as his public life.

I believe Barack Obama has reflected every one of these traits. It's because of his past record that I believe in his future as the President of OUR United States. He represents the best in all of us and I believe he will represent our nation in the worlds arena with the grace, dignity, strength, and intellect that such a position requires. If anyone can take the bag of broken glass that will be the legacy handed to them in the coming presidency, he can. I believe he has the skills to appoint and direct the right people to help make a beautiful stained glass window of the whole mess. His integrity inspires me and I believe he represents the kind of leader America needs.

Every time I see Barack Obama or hear him speak I'm taken aback with how dignified, graceful, intelligent, thoughtful, strong, and capable he seems. He brought it out well on John Stewart's show when he mentioned that most intelligent people will look at the history of choices and leadership skills a person has and weigh that over the "experience" that some candidates claim.

Sometimes the experience makes some politicians even more suspicious. It infers that they've been willing to play the good ol boys game, that they'll accept graft, that they'll compromise their values to stay in the game. It's often the most experienced ones that I mistrust the most. Barack mentioned that Rumsfield and Dick Cheney had very long political careers and lists of experience, but "how'd that work out for them?" was a very telling statement.

From what I gather on the news, internet, and other media sources, very few Americans trust or believe in either of those men and even those that support Bush tend to believe that Dick Cheney and Rumsfield are very corrupt and sinister. Experience seems to equate with corruption in many cases. I'll take my chances with Barack Obama not just because of how he'll play the game in the future, but on how he's allready played the game in the past. His choices, focus, service and intellect are the very things I look for in a leader and I look forward to seeing how all those gifts will benefit all of us Americans.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:59 PM
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31. Beautifully stated.
Barack Obama will be a historically great President!

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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:34 PM
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39. I guess you don't think FDR was a great leader, or Jefferson, or Lincoln
They had to oppose the powers that be, in FDR's case to stop an armed uprising...that's hardly what I'd call compromising opposing sides and bringing them to together. Idealistic rhetoric makes for idealism and should be strived for but that said 1st one must deal with what is...reality on the ground ...a country almost completely lost in the past 12yrs. The debt in the last four yrs is now more than all previous administrations combined, almost too late to stop or reverse the effects of global warming, and our personal freedoms lost to illegal wire tapping, torture, and the loss of habeus corpus. Hope is not what motivates us to stand up and fight to save our nation...it is necessity...hope is what keeps us going after we stand up. A great leader sees the peril and knows when a great opposition is necessary...identifies who and what has brought about this peril and
refuses to continue to enable it but will stand up against all odds to do what is right. We all know the "money party" is composed of both dems and repubs and it is this party that cannot regulate its own greed. They will never compromise away their power and must be regulated for the benefit and survival of all the people. Corporate tyranny is not democracy. My hope is that we are not too late to stop it. We have elected leaders not representatives. A truly great leader knows he must serve all the public and must be smart enough to know who his enemies are, the ones who would prevent him from serving the public good...the money party.
Necessity motivates you to do something...hope sustains your continued action (that you will succeed). What really motivated Obama to run for president...it wasn't hope. All the dems are good leaders...I want a representative who is motivated by the vision of the 'necessity' to change the direction our country is headed before it is too late. Obama is not enough of a change for me.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:39 PM
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42. Great post
K&R
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insanad Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:57 AM
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45. Thankyou
I'm so impressed with the words and ACTIONS of Barack Obama and it compells me to do good things as well. I hope his example has that effect on the whole nation. That's what it will take to get us out of the enormous messes that the Bushistanians have gotten us into.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:27 AM
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3. Ive seen him give some great speeches over the past year
This was one of the best.

FUCK YES! OBAMA!
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:28 AM
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4. I just hope he does not wind up like
RFK or JFK, JR GOD rest their souls in peace.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:30 AM
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5. Get that sick shit out of this thread...off this board!
Not cool!
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Texifornia Donating Member (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 01:50 PM
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46. Go away..
long walk short pier...
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:35 AM
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6. Hell yes.
I am so happy right now.
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:38 AM
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7. Good Lord...
I am getting emotional here.
There is deep, deep, strength in this man.
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iaviate1 Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:43 AM
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8. Great speech
Almost makes me want to vote for him, but he has yet to convince me he's not a corporatist or lesser evil.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:44 AM
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9. Wow... great speech Mr. Obama great speech...!
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4nic8em Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:47 AM
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10. This speech
from this man tonight moves and inspires me just like he did during the 2004 Democratic convention. Bring it on!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:56 AM
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11. Well, that was
Superb! And "Elevating" ..just like someone said it was.. That was a brillant speech..he covered everything so well!

1)Free us from the tryanny of oil
2)Bring the troops home
3)9/11..not a way to scare up votes but to bring us together
4)People who love this country CAN Change IT!

And much much more..those points just really stood out.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:11 AM
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12. What's gonna change with Obama?
Nothing. If he wins the general election in Nov 2008, what's going to change?

Nada.

Change? You want change?

Edwards, my friends. That's the only way anything is going to change around here.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:13 AM
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13. Masterful
When's the last time you heard a "USA" chant during a Democratic speech? We're the people who love this country for what it could be, not the Pubs.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:13 AM
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14. Sorry! But I just don't get Obama.
He talks in platitudes as far as I am concerned. It's great to have hope, but at 64, I know you have to do a lot more than just say you will make things better. You have to have concrete ideas. You have to be able to quantify them. Obama says he is for change, but he never says what changes he will make. He says he will make us less dependent on oil and make healthcare affordable. Bush says those same things. I just do not understand the draw on Obama.
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:23 AM
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15. It is a fair reservation to have
Hi JD,

If it is details that you seek, details that you may feel are lacking from this rather short victory speech, I invite to read the "Issues" section on www.barackobama.com.

I am sure all the other candidates have similar detailed expositions of their policies and plans, and I encourage you to compare them to help you guide your vote.

:hi:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:34 PM
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29. I will go to the Obama site if you will go to the Edwards site.
http://www.johnedwards.com/

I'm going to link right now. It's your loss if you don't check out Edwards.

As I explained, I think Obama does not use language and imagery as compellingly as Edwards does. Edwards speeches are more alive.

Obama's supporters bring more to his rallies than does Obama. I think Obama's main strength is the enthusiasm of his supporters rather than Obama himself. Don't get me wrong. He is a likeable, great guy. He just does not have the clarity of thought and word that Edwards has.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:42 PM
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30. The details look a lot like what Edwards is saying.
How does Obama propose to pay for his health care plan? Why do you suppose so many corporate lobbyists are donating to Obama's campaign?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:37 AM
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16. As a leader, he can set the agenda
He has strong leadership qualities and appears to have his heart in the right place.

Furthermore, after hearing his wife speak I am sure that she will not tolerate Barack getting too far off-course during his presidency; she seems like a very strong, intelligent person.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:37 AM
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17. If Barack was to quantify...
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 01:38 AM by tabatha
his speech would take days.

Bush may say the same things, but his track record shouts outs for all to see, that he is incompetent and cannot deliver.

Obama is the embodiment of what he promises to do - hence he is credible. Can you imagine Bush giving a speech like that without a prompter or a piece of paper?

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:32 PM
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28. Obama's inability to quantify what he is in a shorter time
is the problem. In the end he is boring.

Edwards speaks clearly. He expresses ideas in a concrete, succinct fashion.

Obama rarely says anything memorable. Edwards says things in language that you remember. Obama will not win in November 2003. Edwards will win in November 2008 if he is our candidate. That is why Obama is getting so much MSM attention and Edwards so little.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:14 PM
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47. I like Edwards as much as Obama -
that was not an Edwards versus Obama statement.

I have heard both of them express the underlying themes of their campaigns.
I don't remember either being more specific than describing their visions.

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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:55 AM
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27. I totally hear ya.
I don't get it either. Amongst the Democratic candidates, Obama is at the bottom of my list, right above Gravel, and just below Hillary.

He talks a pretty game, but I find there to be very little substance to any of it. His proposals on any issue are vague and without detail and frankly, I find most of them to be seriously lacking.

I just don't think he has anywhere near the level of strength and vision and fortitude that is going to be required of our next President, who is going to have such an enormous, heaping pile of shit to clean up.

I'm very disappointed and confounded about the size of his win last night.


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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:20 PM
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32. Each new generation is raised to honor the charisma that makes a celebrity.
We'll see how he holds up to tougher scrutiny. From what I've seen thus far when in a tough spot Mr. Obama reverts to a stammering professor. I like him, but I have my doubts that he will survive the brutal and massive attacks coming his way.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:37 AM
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19. Let's get some of that on television screens in NH.
Like, NOW

Sincere, authentic, inspiring.

We don't get candidates like this often.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:56 AM
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20. Wow. Great Speech! nt
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:18 AM
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21. Pretty platitudes devoid of reality. Easy to start candidate worship.
I think Obama would be a better president than any repub. but please stop the candidate worship...I think it even bothers Obama. That chant wasn't much different than the Iraqis chanting for Sadam in unison. Give me a break. This was a fantasy speech filled with all kinds of contradictions. It wasn't a "the whole country" coming together to vote Obama..not "republicans, independents and democrats", it was a few thousand in Iowa. Red states and blue states coming together...WTF...They haven't yet. It's not people refusing to work together in congress it is obstructionist republicans in the senate filibustering all legislation as a political gesture to make it seem that a democratic majority can't get anything accomplished. Democrats have bent over backwards compromising with these repukes to no avail but Obama will change all of that? Ha. Only a senate 60 vote majority will change that. He talks tax cut for the middle class but says nothing about ending the tax cuts for the very wealthy hedge fund holders bringing real tax relief. His plan for health care and ending Iraq isn't really any different than the other dem candidates. Saying that people who want war and those that want peace are at "odds" and we can compromise on that? Compromise with ins co for a national health care policy...Ha.
He said "hope is what causes people to stand up...bullshit...necessity is what causes them to stand up...hope is what help them keep going once they made the decision to fight back. Our founders didn't hope us into independence...they first stood up to fight off tyranny and then had hope they would be successful...that hope kept them going but it wasn't what made them stand up. Obama makes it sound that what has divided the country is our inability to compromise. How do you compromise with thieves and criminals? Necessity is what is bringing the citizenry out and involved (for the first time) in politics. Our hope is that we will finally get someone elected who will fight back against the tyranny we now face. "We are mad as hell and we're not going to take this anymore" (illegal wiretapping, torture, removal of habeas corpus, lying us into a preemptive war, corrupting the DoJ, economic collapse with the devalued currency, NAFTA, WTA, collapse of the housing market, government corruption, trillions in debt, and trillions just lost by our DoD, etc.). FDR said we must take back our country from the powers that be, these "economic royalists". Obama tells us that we need to start discussing and compromising as if that has not already been attempted and rejected by these "economic royalists" and then in the next paragraph tells us of the need to stand up and fight. What a dream world if all states were purple but that is not what reality tells us. How can we end fear as Obama tells us we must when we don't know if we've already waited too long to reverse the effects of global warming, or the shredding of our constitutional rights. Obam uses the word hope devoid of the true sense of the word, hope only comes after we've started to fight, hope that we are not too late, hope that we can overcome the shackles placed on us. Hope is what sustains us not what motivates us. My hop is that we will finally elect someone who will stand up and fight for our freedom and our rights. For once I would love to hear Obama say "fuck them, look at what they've already done to our once great nation. My hope is that we will have the courage to overcome the powers that be, these "economic royalists", and take our country back, because unlike them we will include everybody in the American dream". Watch out for pretty rhetoric and candidate worship...remember Bush's compassionate conservatism and "we aren't nation builders"? As I've said before the "I have a dream" candidate and the "We must take back this nation from the economic royalists" candidate should be fused together for the dream candidate but I'd take the latter over the former any day. What we hope for come not come about until we deal with what is. Just saying...
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:59 AM
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23. here here
Lots of pretty words with very little support. Just like Ronald Reagan - albeit a younger, smarter RR. It takes more than words to win - it takes guts. More guts than voting "present" on important issues of the day. Enough guts to denounce a homophobe at the risk of losing a few evangelicals. Enough guts to go for full HEALTH CARE for all Americans NOT JUST HEALTH CARE INSURANCE.

I have no dog in this fight - as a matter of fact my two favorite candidates dropped out.

BUT I know for a fact, this is not just a country where the first 50% disagrees with the second 50%. It is a country where one half HATES the other half. Don't believe me? Read DU or free republic. They hate us and we hate them.

I pray whoever gets the nomination can ACT and not just SPEAK. I just don't see that with BHO

peace
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:14 PM
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33. Some more details on his Health Care plan (from August 2007)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4591468392370522379#31m30s

He DOES state that if he had the choice and build a system from scratch he would do it as a single-payer system. But he is a concrete thinker trying to bring those changes about and he know what steps will need to be taken.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:03 PM
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38. Maybe or maybe he's trying to keep his corporate ins. buddies in the game.
If he could start from scratch??? That goes with anybody on every thing. It's there already with medicare and medicaid and single payer not for profit national healthcare could be running smoothly within 3mos.. Obama says "look at all the health care ins. employees would be out of work" when the billions milked from the public by these same ins cos would pay for their retraining. What he's not telling us is look at the millions these ins. co would be forced to give up. All the campaign donations. Look Obama is better than any repub but he's far from being the most progressive dem running and is very much a corporatist but we are not electing Kings and Queens here and we must get more progressives elected in the legislature to get a progressive agenda going. On the playground we would call Obama a chickenshit who would make you feel guilty for beating him up but was full of 'hope' that someday you'd stop. I'd vote for him...but only because he won the nomination, not because I think he will follow a progressive agenda. He will be republican light...again. I'm just saying to watch out for candidate worship and watch what is actually said and not just 'alluded' to, what is actually done and not just talked about. So far I'm not impressed with Obama's rhetoric.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:15 AM
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26. K&R
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:23 PM
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34. Gave me goose bumps!
I can see myself working to get this man elected. I'd be proud to have him represent my country.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:27 PM
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35. sorry but his wonderful speech lost me at "affordable health care"
very eloquent and moving. but no. unless he has the guts to utter the "U" word- i'm putting my primary vote elsewhere.

great speech, though....

and congratulations on the Iowa win!

:toast:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:43 PM
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36. Mr. H and I got goosebumps last night, & we didn't even see the whole speech.
Thanks for putting it up where I could hear it all.

We're getting old and kind of losing hope -- also, Mr. H is a Kucinich fan and I keep hoping for an Edwards surge -- but by all the gods it does our hearts good to see this bright young man doing so well.

And the photos of him with his family? Downright Kennedyesque, for the 21st century.

Thanks again, Jefferson_dem.

Hekate

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:03 PM
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40. I appreciate you posting, jefferson_dem
No cable here, so I missed it last night.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:56 PM
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41. I was there
I'll never forget that speech on that night with all the fantastic people who were there.

K&R!
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 06:28 AM
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43. Obama is projecting strength and confidence
Barack Obama is the most inspiring of all the candidates running for President in 2008.

To be honest I prefer some of his other speeches that were more focussed on the issues.

But this was a victory speech and it would not have been appropriate to speak longer than 12 minutes.

I guess the cable news stations promise to show the whole speech live if he keeps it short.

Hillary and Edwards also kept their post-caucus speeches to around 10 minutes in length.

You can watch all the post-caucus speeches here:
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/01/03/multimedia/20080103_IOWA_VIDEO.html?vid=6




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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:39 AM
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48. Kick
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 09:39 AM by jefferson_dem
for Change.

:kick:
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