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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 08:46 AM
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TDPS: Nebraska nuclear power plant close to shutdown, media virtually ignores, FAA helps them
 
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:02 AM
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1. The media has not ignored those plants or the situation.
A Google search for the name of the plants makes it very clear that the story has been covered appropriately. Unless something more serious happens, it's primarily a local story. The national media has noticed the situation, too, but there's no real emergency situation. If an emergency situation arises, it will be covered, I have no doubt. Odds are very, very good that there will not be such a situation, though.

Disclaimer: Nuclear power generation is not safe. It has never been safe, and cannot be made to be safe. That said, it exists, and most plants operate with relatively few serious incidents. The exceptions, however, emphasize my original statement.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 08:51 AM
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19. Yeah, it's not like millions of people protesting the Iraq War. Oh, yeah, that wasn't covered but
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 08:52 AM by valerief
should have been.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:05 AM
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2. in the blink of an eye
nt
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oldbanjo Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:20 AM
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3. The most dangerest Plant is Ft Calhoun North of the Cooper Plant.
The no fly zone is to protect the Plant and elect wires from the News Helo's.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:29 AM
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5. Yup. That plant has been in cold shutdown for refueling since
April. So far, no actual threats are current. There was a fire there in early June, but it was fixed in 90 minutes. No radioactivity releases. Just flood preparations according to the flood plan. It bears watching, but no disaster appears to be in the works at Calhoun.

The Cooper plant was still in operation as of yesterday, and flood levels were not expected to pose a major threat to the plant, which is ready to shut down if that changes.

A Google news search brings up all the pertinent information.
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oldbanjo Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:42 AM
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9. I've been reading the news the Ft Calhoun Plant is where
all the used Rods for the State are stored. As long as the Rod Pool is cooled everything will be OK.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:13 AM
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11. Yup, and they have several systems in place.
The flooding doesn't appear to be going to reach a level that would stop cooling of those storage pools.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:00 AM
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6. Yeah right.
It is a no fly zone for security reasons. All nuclear power plants are that way, as well as some conventional power generation sites and oil refineries.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:33 AM
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8. Some EMS services are limited to the sites due to flooding.
A couple news helo's smacking into each other and crashing would be a serious problem, and yes, that HAS happened.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:13 AM
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7. The "no fly zone" is a NOTAM starting June 6th
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 10:18 AM by Cannikin
EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 91.137(A)(3) TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT FOR FLOOD RELIEF EFFORTS WITHIN A 2 NAUTICAL MILE RADIUS OF 413113N/0960438W OR THE OMAHA /OVR/ VORTAC

Issue Date : June 06, 2011 at 2231 UTC
Location : FORT CALHOUN NUCLEAR POWER PLANT BLAIRNE, Nebraska near OMAHA VORTAC (OVR)
Beginning Date and Time : Effective Immediately
Ending Date and Time : Until further notice
Reason for NOTAM : Temporary flight restrictions
Type : Hazards
Replaced NOTAM(s) : N/A
Pilots May Contact : MINNEAPOLIS (ZMP) Center, 651-463-5580

No pilots may operate an aircraft in the areas covered by this NOTAM (except as described).

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_6523.html


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oldbanjo Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:51 AM
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10. The original back up power for the cooling Pumps at Ft Calhoun Plant
was overhead wires, Generators were added recently. The main Power is underground and could be affected by flooding. Helo's and wires don't mix.
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JayhawkSD Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:01 PM
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12. You are being more than a little hyper-alarmist here
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 12:05 PM by JayhawkSD
Air traffic is always prohibited over nuclear power plants. From time to time, especially at times when private and news aircraft want to violate that rule, FAA issues a directive reminding aviators of the rule. They are not shutting down aircraft traffic due to any kind of emergency, merely reminding aviators of a standing rule.

Nuclear reactors are located on rivers because they require a rather large quantity of cooling water. Having a lengthy discussion of why they are located in such "dangerous" locations if a bit silly. They cannot locate them where there is no water available to cool them.

Cooper is a pressurized water reactor, not the boiling water design type that failed at Fukushima. The safety issues of a BWR are several orders of magnitude greater than are in play with a PWR. In any case, an orderly gradual flooding is a dramatically different event than a massive earthquake and tsunami.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:33 PM
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13. I think the point of it all is
Sometimes, with what we've all been through in our lives, it is just cautious to be cynical of what the government and the MSM is telling us. It is good to question authority.I'm glad we have the internet these days to share info, but I know rumors and hearsay can spin out of control. Nevertheless, I would rather have the internet than to be totally blind.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 08:01 PM
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14. It hasn't been ignored......
why is it on this subject so do so much to distort or exaggerate the truth.
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madlefty Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:20 AM
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17. Not a peep from the MSM???
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 08:12 PM
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15. OK, so planes are ALWAYS prohibited from flying over nuke plants.
That brings us to the original question...why no media coverage on the Nebraska plant? They couldn't fly over the plant anyway, so why no coverage when the plant faced a seriously dangerous situation?

I'll tell you why. It doesn't grab the media gerbils' attention like Anthony Weiner or Lindsay Lohan or Charlie Sheen or any of these other celebrity freak shows.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 08:26 PM
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16. Or maybe there's no problem there
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 08:28 PM by Confusious
They're not covering the roadwork near my house. Why? are they trying to hide something? There's a nuclear reactor right next to where they're working. Has something gone wrong?

They're not covering the Nuclear plant in phoenix. Why? What are they trying to hide?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:27 AM
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18. Corporate rule.
Haven't you enjoyed the effects?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 08:52 AM
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20. Whitey Bulger, the new Natalee Holloway, has stolen the show. nt
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