Have you got got anything to back that statement up with? Listen to this Amanpour interview to find out why the Afghan government being a "looting machine" isn't the same as Afghans wanting us out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDI4Y2GLIig" Afghanistan will revert immediately back to where it wants to be and where it has been for centuries." Afghanistan wasn't in the stone age when the Russians invaded, even though a lot of people seem to think that's the way it's always been.
Watch these videos which show what it was like back in the 1970s to see what I mean:
1976 visit to AfghanistanVideo shot by Dick Marshall on a visit to Afghanistan in 1976. From the Williams Afghan Media Project. (No audio)
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/10/29/aman.afghan.visit.1976.williamsOnce Upon a Time - AfghanistanNov 2001
As the future of Afghanistan hangs in the balance, we look back on the country's past and ask where its future lies?
The rugged terrain of Afghanistan has often found itself at the centre of some of the world's major conflicts. The pictures on our television screens show a country virtually destroyed by war. Yet it wasn't always so: film footage from the 1970s paints a very different picture, of an open and modern society. The capital Kabul buzzes with life, its streets filled with cars, bicycles and pedestrians. At this time, Kabul was famed as an exotic stop-off point on the hippy trail between Europe and India. "That was a golden period for the Afghans," reminisces Dr Ahmed Abdul Javid, former Chancellor of Kabul University. Until the Taliban enforced an Islamic year zero in 1996, Afghanistan was a relatively liberal Place. Farah Hawad, a female journalist who left Kabul for Britain in 1994, describes the country's progressive attitude towards women back then: "Afghanistan was the first Asian country that had women in parliament." But even during this so-called golden era, tensions existed between the country's different ethnic factions, which finally ignited after the Soviet defeat. The task of establishing a lasting peace between these various ethnic groups is likely to be a long and complex one. If Afghanistan is finally freed from the foreign intervention that has dogged it for so long, perhaps new kind of society will finally be able to flourish in this ruined land.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObKRVQDKMwUBefore The Dawn: Afghanistan in PeaceBefore the Taliban. Before the Soviet Invasion. What was there in Afghanistan? Many people from the West who traveled there described it as a Shangri-La or the land of 1001 nights. Afghanistan in many regions remained the way Alexander The Great witness it. Yet there was a change happening in its main cities. Civilization was in full progress and many people looked up to the West. Modernization was in full progress. While poverty and social problems was inherent, the people lived peacefully in region that has been in turmoil over the last 4000 years. The Soviet Invasion brought Afghanistan in a dawn ward spiral that would last 25 years. Today Afghanistan is so devastated and destroyed that it is hard to believe it was once peaceful and civilized.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWaxHhRF0TsAfghanistan - Travel Stories From The 1970's.Travellers tales from Afghanistan as related in excerpts from the Australian Broadcasting Commision radio history program - "Hindsight" dealing with the 1960's and 1970's Asia overland trail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_greF3tTU"it will be bloody for sure no matter when we leave" Not necessarily and I don't know how you can say it with such certainty. It will definitely happen now if the
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Turborama/94">Taliban were allowed to take control again, though.