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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:09 PM
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How My Semi-Adopted Daughter Converted 23 Republicans
I consider this a remarkable story because I have never, as far as I can recall, been able to personally convert a single Republican.

Hope (I’ll refer to her as Hope because her DU screen name is “Hope Against Hope”) is a 34 year old woman who fled to the United States from Angola in 2002 because her husband was trying to have her killed for giving birth to four daughters and no sons. She sought and obtained asylum in the U.S. in 2004. My wife and I took her into our home in July 2005 so that she could save up enough money to have her four daughters come to this country to live with her. Since coming to the U.S. she has worked full time as a nuclear pharmacy technician, while often simultaneously working a part time job or attending college classes as well.

In mid-December of 2005, after withdrawing $2000 from her bank in preparation for her trip to Africa to retrieve her four daughters, Hope was arrested and imprisoned for reason of “suspected terrorism” (I don’t know if she was formally charged.) I posted on DU a more complete story of this episode in December 2005, shortly after it occurred. To make a long story short, she was treated very rudely by the apparent FBI agent who arrested her, but she was fortunate enough to have both her employer and her lawyer come to the prison that afternoon to vouch for her and spring her from prison, after only a few hours of imprisonment. Upon arriving at the airport she was not allowed to board her plane because of her recent arrest. But her lawyer cleared things up for her so that she could leave the next day.


Hope chose the United States to flee to because she had heard that it had a Constitution and a government that protected people, and she considered it a land of “humanity, liberty, and equality”. My wife and I talked politics with her on frequent occasions, and she knew enough to consider herself a Democrat, but it was the trauma of her arrest and imprisonment that she considers to be a major spur to the intensity of her current political outlook.

She felt bitter about how she had been treated, about the profiling that led to her arrest and imprisonment, and especially about the fact that nobody ever apologized to her for her baseless arrest and imprisonment. She had very bad feelings about the Bush administration, and she felt powerless about the fact that she couldn’t vote, since she had not yet been able to obtain U.S. citizenship. She thought about how she could make a difference even though she would not be able to vote in the 2006 elections.


So Hope began talking politics with her co-workers, most whom she also considered to be her friends. They were almost all young Republican men. They mostly considered themselves Republican simply because their parents were Republican, and they were generally not very well informed on political issues.

Hope asked them if they knew what it meant to be a Republican. She talked with them about the Bush tax cuts which served only the wealthy. She talked with them about the war in Iraq. With those who were religious Christians she talked about the fact that George Bush and most other high level Republicans are religious in name only, using the name of God to hide behind and as an excuse for treating other people badly (She also quit going to her Catholic Church because of the pro-Republican prosthyletizing). She explained that the Democratic Party is the Party of tolerance and the Republican Party the Party of intolerance.

Most of all, she argued that they shouldn’t be blind followers, of their parents or anyone else, because political decisions should be their own, based on informed choice. There was much discussion and many questions. Hope told them that they should research the issues themselves, and she referred them to DU, which most of them have read on a regular basis ever since.


By the time of the 2006 elections, Hope had converted 23 of them, all young men (15 white, 5 Hispanic, 3 black). She feels confident that they have been honest to her about their conversions, and most showed her their Democratic voter registration card. She called every one of them on the day of the election, and all told her that they voted – for the Democratic candidates. She tells me that the main secret to her success was that she never got mad when disagreed with, yet she was persistent, she had close enough personal relations with the (former) Republicans that they were willing to listen to her, and their own research confirmed what she had to say to them.


I believe that there is a lesson to be learned here, and I hope that I (and many of the rest of us) can learn it well enough to convert a few Republicans before our country totally falls apart.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:14 PM
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1. Bless you & Hope. Thank you for sharing this.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:16 PM
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2. Gotta kick for this great story!
Inspiring. You, she, and all her converts are forces for good in the world. :kick:
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:17 PM
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3. A lesson indeed! Hope is aptly named. K&R. ...n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:17 PM
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4. Wow. This lady is one determined, dogged, energetic organizer.
She's a grassroots campaign all by herself. And a smart campaign would hire her just for that.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:25 PM
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5. K&R! A remarkable story all-around.
Thank you.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:32 PM
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6. K&R.....Hope is wonderful! n/t
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:32 PM
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7. That's a terrific story.
My dad (former lifelong Republican) uses the same approach of never getting mad, and persistently appealing to peoples' better instincts.

He's the only R I've ever converted, but it's paid off.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:44 PM
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19. That's quite an accomplishment bleever
To convert your father, that must have been a great feeling. How did you do it, and how old were you?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:32 PM
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24. He wasn't a wingnut; he was just used to voting for
pro-business, strong-on-national defense, traditional Republicans.

I knew in early 2001 that * was going to invade Iraq from my reading of his history and the news I was getting mainly through Truthout, Buzzflash, and Raw Story. He thought I was nuts; there was no way they'd march our soldiers into the poison gases and WMD arsenals Saddam possessed, he said. He was sure it was a bluff.

When it turned out I was right, he became convinced that I was an oracle of international affairs :). He began reading avidly whatever I suggested, and he eventually came to outstrip my own paranoia (often correctly so!).

His business has him in frequent contact with business owners, many of whom are Hispanic or immigrants of other countries who have hewn to the "pro-business" image of the R party. He has made it a project, in his passion to head off Bushist fascism, to gently get these people to question whether or not the R part was truly, in fact, representing and promoting their values.

He has made me proud.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:45 AM
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43. That's a great story bleever!
Congratulations to both you and your dad.

I was never able to influence my dad like that, though I would have liked to.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:42 PM
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8. She has much more patience than I do......
Thanks for the story of Hope. :thumbsup:

I hope the dreams for her and her children's lives become reality. She sounds special.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:41 AM
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45. She is -- and she has much more patience than I do in that regard also
I find it very difficult to talk with people whom I believe to be unreasonable, especially if they're Republicans (which most unreasonable people are). Therefore, I find it very difficult to argue with them without getting irritated and upset.

I think that that's why Hope is so much more effective than I am at this kind of thing.

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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:42 PM
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9. Hallelujah, Hope and Time! Keep up the good work!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:05 PM
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10. I remember when you originally posted this story TC. So glad to hear
that Hope has done so well. Is she still going for citizenship? I don't blame her for some bitterness after all she went through, but we need many more like her here.

She gives me hope! Thanks for the update.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:54 PM
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20. Yes, she has been going for citizenship for a long time
It's a very slow process.

Maybe in 09 (or earlier, I hope) after we get a new presidential administration it will get less complicated.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:01 PM
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26. I admire her courage and stamina. I wish the
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 11:02 PM by vickiss
Resident-in-thief had needed to take one to steal the WH. Could * even get his name or the date correct? Certainly not the country - Murka. I imagine legal immigration isn't high on the Dems to do list for the moment. Just more time to study. :)

Please give Hope, her girls and the sweethearts that have helped her along best wishes. Also please give them a deep apology, from another member of this schizo country, for the idiocy they have endured here, I am ashamed that she was treated that way. And last, please wish them hope for a better future in peace with such beautiful souls as them coming to, and others already here, in this country.

Hope must have much patience and wisdom to have managed such a feat. My daughter is the age range of those young men, many of them just follow the crowd in their thinking. She sounds like such an amazing woman. What a blessing she chose here as their new home!

Namaste

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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:09 PM
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11. That is a marvelous story. Hope is to be commended.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:10 PM
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12. I too remember you posting about her
arrest in Dec 05. Glad to hear it worked out - are her daughters adapting as well to being here? I hope so... what a strong and powerful role model their mother is living for them. I wish them and you well for your important support of their transition!!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 07:16 AM
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40. Thank you
Hope has accepted a new job in North Carolina, where the cost of living is low compared to here, so that she can afford a bigger home for her family. Her daughters are looking forward to going there with her. I'll try to get hold of her so that I can answer your question more specifically, but it may be difficult since she is working up to 80 hours a week now.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:19 PM
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13. Would that our Reps and Senators all had Hope's courage and talent!
You're an inspiration, HOpe... best to you! :toast: :applause:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:43 PM
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14. Wonderful story!
BTW, did Hope get to bring her daughters here?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 03:37 AM
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37. Yes, she did.
Her lawyer somehow managed to clear the way for her to fly to Africa to retrieve her children, as I noted in the December 2005 post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5680466
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:03 PM
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15. God, what a wonderful person. Welcome to America, Hope. I
do hope you know how much I respect and appreciate you and welcome you to this country.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:26 PM
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16. Not to make light of a serious situation, but "when life hands you a lemon, make lemonade."
Then share it with Repubs and tell them it's much better for them than drinking the Kool-Aid. :)

Hope is an incredible person. May she live a long, joyful, and abundant life with her daughters.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:36 PM
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17. What an amazing woman
Obviously her husband wasn't aware that his sperm determines the sex of the child.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 03:41 PM
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54. Yeah, I think that idea was beyond his comprehension
That's an interesting story too. The man he hired to kill her, it turned out, knew Hope from high school. When he saw who it was he had been paid to kill he decided against it and confessed the whole thing to Hope.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:43 PM
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18. Hope,...what a wonderful name for a person who knows how
to seek it and how to teach it. Thanks to Hope for her great heart and brave spirit, and thanks to you for mentoring such a fine woman.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:06 PM
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21. Taking up a collection for another statue in New York Harbor...
...the Statue of Hope.

This has to be the best true story I've read on DU in my two years of lurking and posting here.

Give my love to Hope! A finer American there has never been.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:12 AM
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46. Thank you puebloknot -- I will do that
though I'm pretty sure she's read your kind words herself.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:41 AM
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56. Good to know! :) nt
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:19 PM
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22. I believe in Hope
Wonderful story of perseverance.

Sonia
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:22 PM
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23. The pen (or, in this case, the tongue) is mightier than the sword.
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:00 PM
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25. That is a beautiful, inspiring story. Thank you.
I think she taught me something too... the part about not being angry, being patient, being persistent. I could do a few things differently to be more effective in the long term instead of trying to shove it all down people's throats all at once.

Thanks again.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:49 AM
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47. Me too
I sometimes get very irritated, or even angry when talking with Republicans about politics. I'm sure it shows, though I try to control it.

When I write I have more time to get my emotions under control, and I can edit out the parts that I think are too angry. But we don't get that chance when talking to people. I hope I can eventually learn to do that.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:21 PM
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27. She's absolutely 100% correct.
"She tells me that the main secret to her success was that she never got mad when disagreed with, yet she was persistent, she had close enough personal relations with the (former) Republicans that they were willing to listen to her, and their own research confirmed what she had to say to them."
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:27 PM
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28. I am inspired. Thank you, TC, and thank you Hope.
K&R!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:39 PM
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29. Wonderful story about a wonderful woman!
I, too, have found that not reacting in anger works well. But I've not yet converted 23 Republicans!!!

Hope is something else, something special!

Thanks for sharing the story, TC.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:44 PM
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30. An amazing and inspiring story and young woman. Hope is
the perfect name for her. Please tell her we are all proud of her for what she has had to endure and what she has done in her life. democrat or republican she is amazing. the fact that she is democrat is icing. My mother is from another country and a passionate democrat.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 12:30 PM
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48. Thank you -- I will tell her
if she doesn't read it herself - which I'm sure she will as soon as she gets some time.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 12:10 AM
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31. K&R
:patriot:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 12:31 AM
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32. Hope indeed. Thank you and your "semi-adopted" daughter, TfC!
This is a story and a lesson we need to hear and remember.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 12:36 AM
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33. Neat Story
I've had some success but nothing like that.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 01:12 AM
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34. First let me say how nice it is that you and your wife have made
room in your life for this extrodinary women. I love her name. Can you tell me why her lawyer was not able to do more for her in the way of victims rights at the hands of these authorities?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:33 AM
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41. I believe that her lawyer did quite well under the circumstances
A number of people responding to my December post expressed the opinion that they were surprised she was let out of jail at all (I suspect that if she had been a man instead of a woman she might have been carted off to Gitmo.)

We are living under very oppressive regime right now, and it is especially bad for non-citizens, such as Hope. Our pResident has no respect for our Constitution, and no respect for the rule of law, period. I suspect that Hope's lawyer rightly considered it a major victory that he was able to get her out of jail and cleared of the charges (if there were any), cleared to fly again, and had her $2000 in cash returned to her.

I'm not sure what else you had in mind as far as victims' rights. A law suit probably would have been extremely expensive, and I'm not sure that it would have stood much chance of success in today's atmosphere. Maybe it would have been a good time for a test case, but unfortunately only people with lots of money could afford that kind of thing. That's the way I see it anyhow.
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 01:49 AM
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35. Hope is a wise person. I feel uniquely situated to create change
I was born and raised with deep roots in the rural South. I see a lot of disparaging comments here about southerners and those people need to understand that they are not part of the solution. They just feel better when they tear others down. But for all their faults, and there are many, Southern country folk are my people and my home. I love them. Just by virtue of being gay, one of my cousins felt comfortable to come out to my brother and most of the cousins are completely unconcerned if a person is gay or straight. Most of the aunts and uncles are tolerant if not accepting. We're talking rednecks. As the only person opposing the war at my fathers funeral, I was grilled to see if i could hold my own and promptly shut them up with relevant facts they'd never heard before. My grandfather was against the war with everyone until i walked in. He could go after you whatever position he had to stake out. And he'd always stake out a position against yours. He didn't mind your opinion as much as your mettle. Now none of them support this madness. That simply would not happen by derision from a belligerent yankee. But it also wouldn't happen if us unconventional Southerners keep leaving and never return.

I haven't given up on them. I'm planning a move back in March. There isn't any organized Democratic presence in my home county and Wal-mart is planning to further destroy our town to build a supercenter and abandon acres of pavement and big block building to sit empty where it now resides. Someone has to agitate a little.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 02:36 PM
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52. That's an inspiring story
How were you able to convince them towards your views on the war? I could use a lot of advice in that area.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 02:49 AM
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36. This is one of the best posts I've read at DU.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 03:46 AM
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38. A citizen in a land of subjects.
And yet she can't vote. I hope that changes . . . and soon.
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 04:28 AM
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39. Kudos to your daughter!
(Who cares about the semantics).

The only thing it requires is the want to learn about your world around you. I haven't converted 23, but I have done my part in "converting" 1. We asked her to read about the world and not take anything at face value. Today my friend stands with the 23 your daughter converted. Though it's something that is small in comparison to her actions, I'm proud of what I was able to do. I'm REALLY proud of what your daughter has done, though.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 01:19 PM
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49. It should always give us a feeling of accomplishment
when we influence someone to learn more and not take anything at face value, as you say.

This country could use a lot more people like that.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:13 AM
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42. The thing is, we are right and they are wrong.
A sweeping statement, yes, but generally true, especially if you take "right" to mean "in agreement with a huge majority of Americans".

The fact that Republican positions are consistently rejected by the public at large underlies their endless need to lie, hide, and cover up. Otherwise, jeez, they'd never win an election!

Being, in fact, right surely helps with the kind of conversions you mention, for which congratulations! But there will always be those (about, oh, 35%?) who can't be budged.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 01:57 PM
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51. Yes, I agree with all of that
And maybe that's one reason why I have such a poor record of convincing Republicans of the truth of what you say. Maybe if I was able to look at things more from their point of view (not the 30% or so who are unmoveable, but the ones who have the potential at least of being reasonable and who share some of our values) I would have better luck at this -- like Hope.

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Herman74 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:00 AM
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44. Thanks very much for this Inspirational Story! n/t
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 01:22 PM
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50. The Internet has been an amazing tool for truth.
The hate radio, the corporate MSM bullshit -- their influence has peaked. The genie is out of the bottle; the people can get the real story if they are so inclined by turning to the Internet.

Great story!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 03:14 PM
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53. There's a lot of truth in that
One of the major 'weapons' at Hope's disposal was referring her friends to the DU. That was instrumental in getting them to alter their views.

John Conyers, in writing his great report, "The Constitution in Crisis", gave thanks to liberal blogs at the end of his report, for providing information that was instrumental to his research.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:00 PM
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55. Yes, and I think your remarkable story demonstrates something else
And that is how woefully under-informed so many Americans are. We are, of course, used to not paying any attention to politics and current affairs, and then there's the whole corporate media complicity in KEEPING us uninformed.

But there's another thing I think is really important, and that is in the absence of vigorous efforts on our part to educate people and get the message out, as Hope took upon herself to do, the Democratic Party and ALL its members and followers are left characterized as how the Republicans have characterized us: liberals are bad, wrong, evil, and liars.

And if we are LIARS, then nothing we say in our defense or to explain ourselves, or to promote our agenda, or in criticism Bush or the Bush Admin agenda, or ANYthing can be trusted.

The blogosphere has made a difference in that, but I think we must also individually work on the issue, as Hope has done (and beautifully so).

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