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Jeanette in FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:55 AM Original message |
An Experiment in Sociology |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. The same thing happens to prisoners in a total surveillance situation |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. That type of conditioning |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
49. I can't speak for New Yorkers but when I lived in Jersey I gathered |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Bingo! And we have this happening for quite some time now. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. Kicking and recommending. Well put. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. why not just bolt everyone into their seats in flight? |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
4. k & r |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
5. And we wonder why the Jews were so compliant and |
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. There were some dramatic exceptions |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. There were revolts by Jews in 400 locations |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Wow. Telling comment. n/t |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
6. Interesting... |
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
7. Check out the idea of a Panopticon |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Straussian followers are rampent in the Neo-con cabal |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
68. Analyzed in this book |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
9. New Orleans was also an experiment...good post. |
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Jeanette in FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Katrina and the recent Lebanon evacuations made it all click |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Katrina also |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. to this day there are Katrina victims living incommunicado, |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
48. It would explain why their actions seem so incompetent. |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
12. Experiment completed, information gathered - Open Your Eyes! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
14. i couldnt keep my mouth shut if i tried |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
15. That's not much different from existing passenger circumstance. |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
70. "Modest means" is only part of it; |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. Wonderful post and thread. K & R nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
17. When giving up some of your freedoms for the sense of security, |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
18. They have no option at airports, but to submit. If they resist the |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. And you lose your flight |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. And lose the right to fly in the future |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Go watch the "V" movie. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
51. HERE IS THE OPTION! GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE AIRPORT |
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PatriotMom (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I stopped flying when they started all that shit after 911 |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
19. Incredibly well-written piece! |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
20. kick |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. K&R |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
27. Yup, it's exactly what it is. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. And if one or two were taken out of the lines |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
29. K&R! Bravo! n/t |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
30. Excellent piece, Jeanette. k&r |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
31. K&R |
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Jeanette in FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. I imagined myself saying the same thing. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
32. I wonder what would have happened if people refused? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
33. Don't ask me why, but Vonnegut came to mind while reading the piece... |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. Kick again. Everyone should read this! |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
35. . |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. Perfect analysis. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
39. right ziss vay. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
40. Witness the combined 'Force' of corporations and government. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
41. This is one of the best posts I've seen in ages on DU! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. What did the Jonestown suicide tell them? |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
43. Corporate conditioning. |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
46. Another kick for the evening crowd! |
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TwentyFive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. Excellent!! Poor sheep don't know we're becoming the evil empire. |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
50. K&R |
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pagandem4justice (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
52. K&R n/t |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
53. wow... i am getting a great sinking feeling...great post |
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PatriotMom (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
54. Wow wonderful observation.. |
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PatriotMom (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
56. KIcked and tried to nominate but was too late |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Me too. This post has 36 nominations. It deserves to |
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Jeanette in FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I so thank you post #58 and #56 |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
57. DUers have keen, finely honed bullshit meters |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
60. You make it sound like victims lined up at Auschwitz |
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Jeanette in FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. That is what it reminded me, as well |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
61. Kick. And....wow |
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JohMunich99 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
62. Now if people had to do this to get back into their homes... |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
63. No wonder so many people think sociology |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 02:31 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I associate "basketweaving" [sic] with folks who build Straw Man arguments |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 02:46 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Different connotations for different folks, I guess. |
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Jeanette in FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. No, I am not a sociologist |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 04:11 AM Response to Original message |
66. Why don't they just sedate everyone pre-flight, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. i said gas em or restrain them. you on the other hands suggest |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
69. Kick.. Tried to give it an "R" but it's past the 24 hour period.. |
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