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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:06 PM
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Cindy Sheehan on with Scarborough now
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:12 PM
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:15 PM
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2. WTF is that
Not nice.
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:21 PM
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3. thanks I also reported the FREEPER type SPEW
we do not need BU**SH**, vulgarity and death threats on DU IMHO. That is what free republic is about.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:22 PM
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4. What's she saying and how is she doing. What's Joe saying to her?
Feed the cube rats, please.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:23 PM
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5. She was only on for a brief period. Go to the get off your couch
thread I have a feeling this will be locked.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:25 PM
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6. Me too. Thanks for the directions
Sheesh. Some people...
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Buxtehude Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:27 PM
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7. Thanks I'll check it out. n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:31 PM
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8. I said what I said and I meant every word of it.
"World War II was an unjust war." - Cindy Sheehan.

She's dead to me. So is anyone who still defends her.

Over and out.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:34 PM
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9. Disagreement Is One Thing. That Level Of Hatred You Displayed Is Another.
Disagree with her, fine. But to wish her dead? A tad extreme.

But to respond to your point, I cringed when I heard her say that and I didn't like it either. But I quickly glanced over it to the 99% of her other stuff she was saying that was dead balls on accurate.

But I have to admit, part of me was hoping she misspoke or meant it in a way that would've made sense had she had a chance to explain it further. It was just the statement, but nothing behind it to understand why it was said. I'm hoping she didn't mean it in the way you think she did.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:40 PM
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10. Well, let's put it this way
Losing a son, and meaning well, doesn't mean that everything you say is golden. I've often said that one should be able to disagree with her without being told that unless one has lost a child, we have no right to criticize anything she says.

That's wrong. I've never been president. So by the same logic, I shouldn't be able to critize Bush either.

However, wishing her death rather goes beyond criticism. Hence the flame-ectomy up top.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:46 PM
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11. Maybe she didn't, but I'd really like to know.
To be very blunt here: is she channelling Mahatma Gandhi or David Duke?

Inquiring minds need to know.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:35 PM
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13. I'm not familiar with the quote so I went looking for it and found this
"Well, let me tell you, Joe. I‘m a pacifist and I believe war is wrong. And if you look at the history, World War II happened because of World War I and the suppression and sanctions against the people of World War I. I‘m a total pacifist and I think finally now, this is the 21st century and we need to stop killing each other to solve problems, especially imaginary problems."

Probably not David Duke. Just a total pacifist. And a bit of a flake.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:08 PM
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15. That statement makes total sense to me.
war does spawn war, its not a mystery

I don't see yet the quote where she said WW2 wasn't justified, or whatever.

I want the link to that quote?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:27 PM
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17. I saw and heard her say it. You're welcome to go find a link.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:30 PM
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19. Well, if would be kinda nice if you could provide some particulars
Was it an interview? On which network?

I'm asking in the interest of being open minded and seeing what you are talking about, and also seeing the quote in the context in which it was said.

It would be much appreciated if you could give me a detail or two to aid in my search. Thanks.

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:50 AM
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21. It was an interview by Joe Scarborough on last night's MSNBC
Scarborough Country.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:28 PM
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18. Can't find it yet either. But the problem I have with this quote
is things like the Holocaust. Yes, WWI spawned WWII. I believe that is true. We left the Germans so low that any charismatic nut with a pretty song to sing was going to be able to go in there and do what Hitler did.

But regardless of the mistakes that were made that lead us into WWII, once it started there was a certain madman who I'd say rather needed to be stopped. I'm sure Europe appreciated that we jumped in there, even though it took us a hell of a long time to do so. We were quite isolationist at the time, if I recall. But then Japan had to go and wake the sleeping giant.
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:51 PM
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12. Well, she is wrong about WW2
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-John Stewart Mill

Had we and the allies sat and did nothing during WW2, the world would right now be controlled and run by Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. And the death toll would be in billions. The Nazis took over cities and anyone they didn't like was put in concentration camps where most were slaughtered.

And I know everyone likes to bring up Ghandi and that war is never the answer...but lets face it. How long do you think Ghandi would last against the Nazis? They'd stomp on him without hesitation and anyone that cried about would be shot on the spot. The Nazis were a fascist-totalitarian regime ran by genocidal maniacs.

You can be anti-war. That's fine. But there comes a time where pacifism becomes foolish. If we did not fight in WW2, America and Europe would not be in existance today.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:03 PM
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14. She may be referring to Roosevelt knowing that the Japanese
warned our president that they were going to bomb Pearl Harbor, and Roosevelt let it happen as a in road to the war. So many unjust turns and twists with our leaders.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:32 PM
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20. But has that ever been proven. I don't think that is an established fact
so much as a theory, is it?

Even so, what about Hitler? However we got into the war, was it really cool to leave England out there all by themselves.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:12 PM
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16. she went too far a long time ago for the democratic party to touch.
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 11:12 PM by seabeyond
this has been and still her baby to ride as she chooses and i support her totally on her fight, but not as a democratic voice. her own voice, thought, opinion. her voice is her own
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:54 AM
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22. Well said n/t
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