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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:46 PM
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John McCain's Birth Certificate/chart-some updates
more: http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0009034.HTM

NewsScope for October 14, 2008

John McCain's Birth Certificate

Breaking news -- a copy of John McCain's birth certificate has been found and gives a birth time of 6:25 pm. It looks official*. The certificate was found by a conspiracy group attempting to prove that McCain was born outside of the proper U.S. territory (disqualifying him to run for president), and shows his birth place to be Colon, Panama instead of the Coco Solo Air Force Base.

The birth time looks accurate. His Virgo Sun is conjunct the Descendant, reflecting how much he's dependent on his partners, both personal and political. Uranus quincunx the Midheaven shows his reputation as a maverick. The Moon is now at 2º Aquarius near his Twelfth House, and was activated by progressed Mars when he was shot down and imprisoned on October 26, 1967.

Follow the activation of his Midheaven during the highlights of his life: he first married on July 3, 1965 when his progressed Midheaven was making an exact aspect to his natal Juno. He divorced and married his current wife in May 1980 as his progressed Midheaven was trine his seventh house Venus. He was first elected to the Senate on November 4, 1986 when transiting Saturn was conjunct his Midheaven.

His current situation doesn't look particularly favorable for winning the White House. Progressed Mercury square Mars is the dominant astro-event as we near Election Day, giving him a sharp tongue and a zest for hardball politics. Progressed Jupiter at 25º Sagittarius assures a wealthy and popular following, but it's his only favorable aspect. Meanwhile, progressed Venus in the tenth house will oppose Chiron, bringing plenty of hurt feelings by the time this campaign is done.


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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 05:01 PM
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1. Very, very nice, Katty
Thank you for posting this!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 05:14 PM
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2. sure, i'm liking these odds .......peace :)
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:55 AM
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3. A preview of the debate, with new birth time:
From Nancy's Blog at StarlightNews.

Recently, a new birth time of 6:25 PM has surfaced for John McCain, which, if anything, makes matters worse for him. I will include the new data in this forecast, but identify it as such.

In his natal chart, John McCain’s very volatile, impulsive, and easily angered temperament is described by a Mars (12Leo34) square to Uranus (9Taurus30). The new birth time brings the Moon (2 Aquarius25) into this configuration, creating a wide T-square, and suggesting an even greater irritability and combustibility. It is this aspect that will be under a great deal of pressure during and after the debate, suggesting McCain will be very agitated, angry, and unhappy. The transiting Moon (9Taurus30) will be exactly conjunct his natal Uranus at the beginning of the debate, suggesting a great deal of jumpiness in the first few minutes, perhaps due to an upsetting or surprising question right off the bat or perhaps due to an event prior to the debate that still has him rattled. The Moon will then move toward a square to his Mars (12Leo) through the course of the evening and into the very early hours of the morning. Anger and irritability are the likely result.

Of greater consequence, is the transit of Mars (8Scorpio), especially on October 16 and 17. Although this planet will be not quite within a one-degree orb of opposition to natal Uranus (9Taurus30) during the debate, it is likely to nonetheless signal the beginning of a two-day period of extreme agitation, impatience, and anger. In addition, there are two further aspects that are specific to the 6:25 PM chart that suggest a very trying, depressing time for McCain that began in late September and continues to be very potent through October 19, slowly diminishing over the week or so thereafter. The first is the transit of Saturn sesquiquadrate his natal Moon (2Aquarius25) from October 11 through October 19, and the second is converse Moon square converse Saturn (22Pisces20) beginning around September 21 and peaking on October 18. All of this points to another poor debate performance and upset, aggression, anger, and depression as a result.

While McCain seems to be at some kind of nadir for the mid-October debate, Obama will be at his zenith. His progressed Venus will be, to the minute, conjunct his natal Node (27Leo18) for the debate, triggered by the transit of Venus (27 Scorpio) during and after the actual event through the following morning. Transiting Venus will also square his progressed Venus/progressed Uranus (28Leo) conjunction, and then conjunct his Midheaven (28Scorpio53) through October 16th. In the face of McCain’s crankiness, Obama will once again demonstrate calmness and strength, with an extraordinarily appealing and compelling quality that pervades his presence.

There is, however, some stress that develops for Obama from around October 16 through October 25, due to Saturn’s transit semisquare his Mercury (2Leo20) and quincunx his Ascendant (18Aquarius03). Perhaps, it is just the weightiness of the times adding to the sobriety and thoughtfulness (Saturn) of his demeanor. But it seems likely he may lose some of his sparkle during this period and become more fatigued and off his game. A cold or laryngitis is possible that will encumber him in some way. Alternately, the increasingly vituperative attacks from the Hate Talk Express may begin to do some damage. It may be that his wide lead shrinks a bit during these ten days. Nonetheless, it seems likely that the last debate will be quite memorable and may be what finally seals this election, in spite of the background of sulphurous fulminations exuding from the Dark Side.


:applause: Obama will be at his zenith!!! :applause:

:toast:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:47 PM
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4. thanks for this one
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:31 PM
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9. And we're in the midst of this
"There is, however, some stress that develops for Obama from around October 16 through October 25....It may be that his wide lead shrinks a bit during these ten days."

Here's hoping it doesn't last much longer.
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:49 PM
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10. And the stress seems to be Obama's grandmother. Hoping all is well.
I can imagine she wants nothing more than to see him elected.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:33 PM
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5. this is HUGE thanks!
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 08:05 PM
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6. Maverick?
>Uranus quincunx the Midheaven shows his reputation as a maverick.

Boy, doesn't that figure. A weak aspect to his midheaven wouldn't exactly have any basis in reality. It's just a reputation, and an unearned one at that.

Bill
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 09:09 PM
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7. And I think
his heart of hearts knows it. I wonder what the loss of reputation will bring for him.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:22 PM
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8. yes, think so, the 'maverick' label is a charade
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