Karen Hughes inserts God into the US Constitution

[muriel_volestrangler]

as part of US foreign policy.

QUESTION: Going back to the subject of the President, did anyone speak specifically about President Bush -- their feelings about him, objections to him?

UNDER SECRETARY HUGHES: I haven’t really heard a lot of that. I had one person at one lunch raise the issue of the President mentioning God in his speeches. And I asked whether he was aware that previous American presidents have also cited God, and that our Constitution cites "one nation under God." He said "well, never mind" and went on to something else. So he sort of was trying to equate that with the terrorists’ (inaudible). So I explained that I didn’t really think that was something you could equate. And he sort of dropped it and moved on. He was one of the opposition leaders in Egypt.

Transcript from Hughes' PR tour of the Middle East

There's no mention of God (or god, or gods) anywhere in the US Constitution. But, unless that opposition leader dropped the subject because he knew very well that Hughes was lying to him, there are now people in the Middle East who think it is. Which will encourage their thought that the US is waging a religious war.

The Republicans are doing their damnedest to persuade people that it is. Either that, or Hughes is an ignorant fool who should be sent back to junior high to learn a bit about her country.

[rodeodance]

1. she "sort of" is an idiot!!

......So he sort of was trying to equate that with the terrorists’ (inaudible). So I explained that I didn’t really think that was something you could equate. And he sort of dropped it and moved on. He was one of the opposition leaders in Egypt.

[bertha katzenengel]

2. I'm dumbstruck.

:wow:

[Missy M]

3. From what I know the freepers and neocons are using the following..

In the last paragraph it says "the 17th day of September in the year of our Lord 1787". This is what they are hanging their hat on as God being in the Constitution. In reality it is what the calendar is based on and not a reference to God. Do you think the repulsive Karen Hughes got the Constitution and Pledge of Allegiance mixed up?

[muriel_volestrangler]

4. She may have been stupid enough to confuse the two

and I wonder if she realises the pledge only had the "under god" inserted as a propaganda measure in the 1950s. She is, apparently, very religious, and she may just be so blinkered that she assumes her own view of God and the USA is a general one, and that a phrase like that must be derived from the constitution.

[rzemanfl]

5. So everytime I wrote A.D. in my life I was acknowledging the

divinity of Christ? Bullshit! All I was acknowledging was a dating system I had nothing to do with creating.

[Missy M]

6. Absolutely, and thats all the writers and signers of the Constitution..

were doing, acknowledging a dating system, nothing more.

[rzemanfl]

7. You know that and I know that, but people like Karen Huge never

will change their minds.

[phaseolus]

8. Yep...!

And, do you ever say "bless you" when someone sneezes??

[rzemanfl]

9. Well starting to today, if you sneeze and someone says "shut the

fuck up!" That'll be me...

[CatholicEdHead]

10. Did she confuse the Constitution with the Pledge?

Figures.

[TechBear_Seattle]

11. Actually, God is mentioned in the US Constitution, albeit indirectly

"... done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth."

That is the one and only mention of deity or other supernaturalism in the United States Constitution. Religion also gets a mention, a much more direct one:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. (Article VI, para 3)"

So much for the lie that the Founders established a Christian nation.