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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 08:10 PM Original message |
Poll question: What if there were a Federal Civil Union Law? |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. I want all the rights and benefits of marriage |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 08:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I was talking about a FEDERAL civil union that covered ALL states, too |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. as long as all the benefits that are available under heterosexual marriage |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. And for the record, my preference is for federal MARRIAGE equality |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Let's set the record straight. And I do mean STRAIGHT. . . |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-05 12:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Open your eyes. You are close to |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. huh? my post that you so erroneously ridicule is NOT my personal opinion |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. I think we're in violent agreement here. |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 08:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. But marriage wasn't originally a Religious practice |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 08:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. For the last 2,000 years or so it was religious |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 08:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. In many societies |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I keep quoting that passage |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Based on that logic there should be no reasons why gays and lesbians can't |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Jesus didn't, but Paul sure did |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 08:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. *clap clap clap clap clap* nt |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Civil unions would have all the benefits of marriage |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. please see above post #13. thanks. |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-05 09:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I now support this idea |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. So we would legislate civil unions and then litigate marriage? |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-05 10:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Well, no, actually - it would be civil unions for eveyone going forward |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Exactly the point! Eliminate secular marriages. |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. No. It is not. Again, you recite religion instead of law. Why? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Call it "The Separaiton of Marriage and State"? n/t |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. What for? Marriage ain't religious. nt |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. self-delete |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well ya kow... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. "X-Treme Cohabitation" doesn't work? It's cool, it's hip, it's da bom! |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 10:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I don't even get... |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Exactly. Why would anyone want marriage instead of something less? |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. Marriage is a religious institution |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. There you go again -- reciting religion instead of law! |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. But if c.union leads to resolution, what difference does it make? |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Where is the problem . . . many. Too damn many . . . |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. The problem is with |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Good point. |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I'm not convinced that pushing for civil unions is either... |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Tis you, my friend, who is missing the reality of the situation. |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. It's fine to post your opinions on message boards; however, |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. I read your posts. I just do not find them convincing. |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Marriage is mentioned in the Old Testament but |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 08:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Look in the new testament and you see the problem |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Why should WE change OUR argument and not make THEM learn some history |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. It's about winning |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. I don't think most people |
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Brianboru (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. You're probably right. When I argue with these folks I |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. How about arguing against letting the RRW steal a word and tradition |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. The 14th amendment |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Yup, as well as the "full faith and credit" clause . . . However, |
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moose65 (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't care about the name of it..... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-05 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
11. No vote, I couldn't find my option |
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justin899 (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-05 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
21. There is not an ice cube's chance in hell that a Federal law would EVER.. |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
46. we already separate religious doctrine from civil marriage |
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