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RonB
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Sun Jul-23-06 08:51 PM Original message |
Direct Material Proof of Massive Election Fraud in Ohio in 2004 |
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NVMojo
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Sun Jul-23-06 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. Rank and KICK!!! |
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iconoclastic cat
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Sun Jul-23-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. What? How do you figure? nt |
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autorank
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Thu Jul-27-06 02:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
101. Ron Baiman is a national treasure, but that's just my opinion and I |
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iconoclastic cat
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Sun Jul-23-06 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. The link to the powerpoint is dead. nt |
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alfredo
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Sun Jul-23-06 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you. This might be locked, then moved to GD or |
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uppityperson
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Sun Jul-23-06 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. k&r for clean elections, without them we are screwed. |
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Kip Humphrey
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Sun Jul-23-06 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. Ron, having trouble with the Powerpoint link:"bcvrtf.yahoo.com not found" |
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iconoclastic cat
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. And yet everyone here is kicking and recommending. |
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drm604
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Same here. |
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Land Shark
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Tue Jul-25-06 01:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
60. I had no problem downloading it K&R n/t |
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bleever
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. Ron, I trust that you are in touch with |
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IndyOp
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. I can't get to the Powerpoint... (n/t) |
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bear425
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Ron comments on his blog post to download the link |
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L. Coyote
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. PowerPoint viewer is a free MS download. LINK only n/t |
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bear425
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Mon Jul-24-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Hey, thank you very much. That was nice of you. n/t |
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Nictuku
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. Caution: New Powerpoint Virus |
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Donnachaidh
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. if it's stored on yahoo there may be traffic problems |
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Patsy Stone
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. K&R |
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drm604
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Sun Jul-23-06 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
15. Ron, your link appears to be bad. |
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RonB
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Sun Jul-23-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I changed the link. |
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Melissa G
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Sun Jul-23-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Glad to see you back, Ron! Thanks for posting! K&R! n/t |
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go west young man
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Mon Jul-24-06 07:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Works for me! |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. Why don't you |
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L. Coyote
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Sun Jul-23-06 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
19. Ohio Supreme Court Vote Anomaly |
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rumpel
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Mon Jul-24-06 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
20. Ron, thank you for this great analysis |
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farmbo
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Mon Jul-24-06 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
21. Nails Warren Mitofsky as the bumbling, self righteous a$$hole he really is. |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 08:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. And your problem is? |
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organik
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Mon Jul-24-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. You've got to be kidding, right? |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It's certainly not silly |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Mon Jul-24-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Your loyalty to you erstwhile patron does you great credit, Prebs. |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Oh jeez |
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farmbo
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Mon Jul-24-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. It's silly that anonymous polling data can't be released owing to... |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. The names are not on the responses |
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salvorhardin
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Given how everyone here feels about Choicepoint (rightfully so!) |
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L. Coyote
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Mon Jul-24-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. RE: wouldn't show up in the exit poll anyway ... |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Well, you can certainly add it. |
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L. Coyote
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Mon Jul-24-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. RE: The qualifier "for which there is best evidence in Ohio" |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Nope |
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L. Coyote
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Thanks, this helps |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. I should also add: |
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L. Coyote
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Mon Jul-24-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. a 17% shift in their margin |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Yes indeed |
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L. Coyote
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Mon Jul-24-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. RE: "Ron's "virtually irrefutable evidence" from the exit polls is nothing |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Well, he's done it in writing |
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Awsi Dooger
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Mon Jul-24-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. In regard to exit polls, I've noticed plenty of silly, the other way |
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Melissa G
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Mon Jul-24-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. Hi Awsi, you seem to merit a TIA refuting... |
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Awsi Dooger
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Tue Jul-25-06 11:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
76. I seriously doubt TIA looked at the "When Decided" category prior to 2004 |
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Melissa G
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Wed Jul-26-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
98. I was going to give you a long answer until I read your down |
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Melissa G
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Wed Jul-26-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
99. You have been refuted.. again...Check your in box.n/t |
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Awsi Dooger
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Thu Jul-27-06 01:39 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Thank you for the link in your PM |
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Melissa G
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Thu Jul-27-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. Hi Awsi ,TIA likes your math, if not your conclusions... |
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Awsi Dooger
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Thu Jul-27-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Admittedly, that "When Decided" has been less varied in '00 and '04 |
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autorank
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Thu Jul-27-06 02:45 AM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Has that ever made a difference... |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Thu Jul-27-06 07:09 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. nope, serious discussion here is very, very difficult n/t |
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BeFree
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Mon Jul-24-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
58. Yeah, right |
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Awsi Dooger
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Tue Jul-25-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. I thought you were ignoring me |
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BeFree
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Wed Jul-26-06 06:41 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Made up? No. Mistake? yep |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Wed Jul-26-06 06:53 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. presumably you meant this to reply to me |
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BeFree
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Wed Jul-26-06 07:18 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. There goes that integrity thing, again |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Wed Jul-26-06 07:40 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. nope, it's a fact thing |
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BeFree
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:06 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. It is your credibility in question |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. again, if you don't have an argument, then you don't have an argument |
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BeFree
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:36 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Your intellectual integrity is the subject |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:41 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. that's just dumb |
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Deleted message |
OnTheOtherHand
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:47 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. huh? n/t |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Wed Jul-26-06 05:42 AM Response to Reply #58 |
81. and then there is the part you just made up |
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RonB
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Tue Jul-25-06 12:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
59. Election records are PUBLIC records |
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Febble
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Tue Jul-25-06 01:42 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. They have everything to worry about |
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RonB
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Tue Jul-25-06 11:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. I removed that slide from the power point |
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Febble
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Wed Jul-26-06 02:27 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Thanks Ron, that's decent |
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BeFree
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Mon Jul-24-06 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
31. Kick |
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Mon Jul-24-06 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
39. BIG KICK |
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roseBudd
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
45. In OH the precinct on the punchcard is identified with a printed or... |
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L. Coyote
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Suspicous minds want to know |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Excellent idea |
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L. Coyote
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. But do they have hot tubs? |
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farmbo
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Mon Jul-24-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Febble...your take on the Miami county poll book discrepancy? |
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Febble
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Mon Jul-24-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Well, I am waiting to see |
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farmbo
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Mon Jul-24-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. These stats. don't reflect drop off rates from top to bottom of the ticket |
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Febble
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Tue Jul-25-06 02:07 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Well, if it's "stark" |
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farmbo
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Tue Jul-25-06 04:09 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Sorry...I have a day job and I'm not a statistician. Part of the indignity |
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Febble
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Tue Jul-25-06 04:32 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Sorry about the stats-speak |
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roseBudd
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Tue Jul-25-06 07:13 AM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Exactly SW OH should have been least likely to vote Connally, it's |
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Febble
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Tue Jul-25-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Well, stats are no substitute |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jul-26-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #70 |
92. RE: "Kerry votes were tabulated as Bush votes" |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Wed Jul-26-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. a master file of ballot orders would help |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jul-26-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. deterministic pattern based on precinct name |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Wed Jul-26-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. two concerns |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jul-26-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. the statute specifies precinct number |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Thu Jul-27-06 07:58 AM Response to Reply #96 |
104. yes, I know the statute |
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L. Coyote
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Thu Jul-27-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. caterpillar crawl could account for the "anomalous voting patterns |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Thu Jul-27-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. who are you lecturing, and why? |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jul-26-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. RE: "Finally I gave up because I didn't have time to check all the PDFs." |
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roseBudd
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Mon Jul-24-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. To dismiss Connaly you have to believe SW OH voters are more likely to |
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Febble
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Tue Jul-25-06 02:14 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Well, no. |
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roseBudd
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Tue Jul-25-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. If you were a cop you would say "I smell a rat in SW OH", Connaly + |
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Febble
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Wed Jul-26-06 02:58 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. I smell rats too |
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OnTheOtherHand
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Tue Jul-25-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
74. the poll book thing needs more analysis |
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Bill Bored
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Mon Jul-24-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Glad to see you guys talking. |
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Febble
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Tue Jul-25-06 02:56 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Well, it's not a question |
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eomer
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Tue Jul-25-06 05:52 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Unless... |
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Febble
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Tue Jul-25-06 06:09 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Yes, and the sun is shining in a British summer |
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eomer
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Tue Jul-25-06 06:39 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Regarding the lack of correlation at the state level, |
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Febble
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Tue Jul-25-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Well I compromised |
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Melissa G
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Tue Jul-25-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
75. Did lightening just strike twice in the same place?BB on exit polls? |
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roseBudd
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Mon Jul-24-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. When I initially stared researching punch cards in Dec. '04 I assumed that |
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AtLiberty
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Mon Jul-24-06 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
57. ??? |
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Awsi Dooger
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Thu Jul-27-06 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
108. Does anyone know exactly when that ballot rotation started? |
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