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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:43 PM
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Ohio - Threat of Terrorist Attack a "10" - oh wait, no, we never said that
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 10:05 PM by AmyCrat
So you heard it on Keith Olbermann...
Yesterday, Warren County election officials said they had been warned IN PERSON by the dept. of homeland security and the FBI that they were a target for terrorism... and on a scale from 1-10, a 10!

But today, it was reported that DOHS and the FBI are saying "we never told anyone that."

*sniff sniff* something really smells.

Anyone else smell it?

*edit to correct county (wasn't franklin, was warren)
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:48 PM
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1. yes...like a rotten egg on their faces...
I like how Keith brought it up again to Alterman - saying why aren't reporters running there??? Alterman said they are just burned out but he should keep up this fight...

I also like how Nader told Kerry how to handle this - unconcede and even if the results remain - he's keeping a promise to the voters to COUNT EVERY vote!!! Why won't Kerry do this????
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:49 PM
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2. Huge Republican mistake
The Warren County "saga" just might be the key here.
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:50 PM
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3. Remember the Terrorist Alert Level Rising?
Before the election, the alert level in NY and NJ was raised because of possible threats to key financial buildings. Remember?

Well guess what was lowered today? The alert level for those buildings.

Can we say mass voter intimidation?
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:54 PM
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4. Yes...
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 10:01 PM by RaulVB
That was the idea, probably.

I remember a joke about Cheney's warning on terrorist threats before the election.

Yeah, terrorists were going to hit Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, Iowa, Florida...you get the rest;-)
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:55 PM
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5. that was f'in hilarious (the way he handled it)
'wait... we never said that!'
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tarheel_voter Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:55 PM
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6. It was Dick Cheney and he said we were getting nuked.
He really said it folks.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:55 PM
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7. Yes, it's the smell of corruption.
n/t
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kerry2win Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:00 PM
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8. They should do a revote for that county
N.Carolina is in one county I believe
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:01 PM
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9. getting very interesting
Gotta hope the FBI are as fed up with this administration as we are. They've taken alot criticism for foul ups, let's hope they are eager for payback and will take this investigation further. Hmmm...we'll see.
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shaggy briard Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:02 PM
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10. Warren County
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 10:03 PM by shaggy briard
Have performed analysis of demographics and voting patterns in Warren county, and the voter registration numbers, turnout numbers, and no-votes simply stink. Adult population increased probably 19% since 2000 but registrations (already high) have jumped 33% and now seem to approach 92% of all adults. Suggests lists might not have been purged. 74% turnout against this high registration count suggests maybe some people who forgot to vote, were busy (or dead?) might have been "helped" to vote. Despite 23,000 more votes cast than in 2000 -- presumably many from new voters -- only 39 more "no votes" were registered than in 2000 -- dropping the undervote rate from 1.5% to 1.1%. This stuff doesn't add up and smells. I have a spreadsheet to share but am new at this blogging stuff and don't know how to get it in here -- any suggestions?
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:06 PM
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11. Link to reported info on this
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/10/1536254
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Meanwhile, in Warren County, Ohio election officials took a rather unprecedented action on November 2. They locked down the building where the votes were being tallied, blocking anyone from observing the vote counting process. County officials said they took the action in response to a terror threat warning from the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI. County Commissioner Pat South said they were told by an FBI agent that the county was facing a level 10 security threat on a scale of 1 to 10. George Bush won 72% of the county's more than 92,000 votes.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:12 PM
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12. Cause the Bush Adminstration
gave al jazeera a hard time about releasing the Bin Laden tape given to it after the election. the story going round is that there was a threat against the states that gave Bush the election, and while there is a lot of arguing about the tapes existance, knowing this administration, the odds of it existing and being kept from us is far greater than the odds of it not existing.

Like Today, The U.S. reporting that casualties in Falluja are light, but the BBC contacted one of its Iraqi reportewrs in Falluja ahd he is reporting that when he went outside at nighr there was little sign of U.S. presence, vbut there were bodies all over and at one point he states he had just seen the bodies of six U.S. soldiers jusy lying in the streets among the bodies of insurgents.

So I would not beleive anything soming from this administration at this point.
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:03 AM
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13. Can we say "wag the dog"? n/t
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:50 AM
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14. Light Bulb Moment!!
And isn't it FUNNY that Ashcroft resigned today????
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 01:30 AM
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15. THEY ........ ARE .......... BUSTED!!!!!
HA HA HA HA H AH AH AH AH HA HAHAAAA!!!!

Got I hate those fuckers!

Liars, cheaters all of them!

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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:06 AM
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16. Let's not FORGET this story! I want answers n/t (kick)
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:13 AM
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17. You know,
this should be pretty easy to track down. Get to the official who said there was a threat, ask him twho told him and get the name of that person....sounds like investigative journalism 101 ...so why hasn't anybody done that...?????????
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:35 AM
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18. receiving quite a few pieces of correspondence from Homeland Security
AMY GOODMAN: Can you summarize your piece in today's Cincinnati Enquirer?

ERICA SOLVIG: Well, the story that ran today is reiterating the County Commissioner’s stance of Homeland Security concerns. They say, as you have already mentioned, that the county was facing a terrorist threat that ranked 10 on a scale of 1 to 10. We talked to several officials with the homeland security department as well as the FBI. They knew of no increased terrorism concerns in Warren County in particular, and just, again, raising the continuing concerns regarding Homeland Security and being locked out of the building. The primary focus of all of the articles has been on, you know, the First Amendment issues and the open government issues that are raised when the public and the media are locked out of the process.

AMY GOODMAN: You have interviewed a number of people for your pieces; among them was a news director at a local TV station?

ERICA SOLVIG: That's correct.

AMY GOODMAN: What did he say?

ERICA SOLVIG: He called this a red herring. Bob Moreford, the News Director at channel 9, CWPO TV, the ABC affiliate here said he had never seen anything like it, and WCPO as well as the Associated Press and the Inquirer all received the same response when they tried to get into the building on election night, and that was being locked out. Moreford said that he considered it a red herring. He continued to say, “That’s something that's put up when you don't know what else to put up to keep us out.”

AMY GOODMAN: We're taking a look at Keith Olbermann's blog from MSNBC. He was quoting the statement given out by Warren County Commissioner Pat South to MSNBC. You have also been quoting her a great deal. It's quite a remarkable quote. It says, “About three weeks prior to elections, our emergency services department had been receiving quite a few pieces of correspondence from the office of Homeland Security on the upcoming elections. These memos were sent out statewide, not just to Warren County, and they included a lot of planning tools and resources to use for Election Day security.” Pat South went on to say, “In a face-to-face meeting between the FBI and our director of Emergency Services, we were informed that on a scale from 1 to 10, the tri-state area of southwest Ohio was ranked at a high 8 to a low 9, in terms of security risk. Warren County in particular was rated at 10, 10 being the top highest risk. Pursuant to the Ohio-revised code, we followed the law to the letter that basically says no one is allowed within 100 feet of a polling place except for voters, and that after the polls closed, the only people allowed in the Board of Elections area where votes are being counted are the Board of Election members, judges, clerks, poll challengers, police, and that no one other than those people can be there while tabulation is taking place.” And yet, Erica Solvig, now the Department of Homeland Security and FBI are denying that they ever talked about a security risk here?

ERICA SOLVIG: They're saying that they were not aware of any increased security risk in Warren County on Election Day. The county has declined to give us the agent's name who told them this, because they haven't talked to this agent - this is an FBI agent - anytime recently. But the Homeland Security officials that we have talked to in the area, as well as the FBI, are unaware of any increased security risk on Election Day. Again, the primary concern was being locked out of a public building on a night when the entire nation was watching, waiting for the results.

AMY GOODMAN: Is Warren County, Ohio, republican or democrat?

ERICA SOLVIG: It is Republican, but politics aside this was an unprecedented action on their part. As far as we know and as far as the Ohio Secretary of State's office knows this is the only county in the state that locked the public out of the building.

AMY GOODMAN: One more time, as you point out in today's Cincinnati Inquirer piece, Pat South the commissioner describes the FBI agent coming to her?

ERICA SOLVIG: The FBI agent apparently spoke with some county officials who then relayed the information to the commissioners. He actually spoke directly to Frank Young, who is quoted in the article as well.

more
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/10/1536254
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lilfroggy Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:31 AM
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19. yep
they screwed up on this one..
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