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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:20 PM Original message |
Unravelling the Mystery of the Cuyahoga County vote totals |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. wow |
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Lilli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. FYI: CNN is working on the story now |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. WOW |
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. CNN would only check it so they'd know what to bury |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
62. More likely trying to Quash the story.... |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hmm. Well, I'd like to calculate the odds on something like that happening |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. WOW!! I remember in 2000 that some thing like three politicians |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. 18,181 vote margin wins for 3 diff. Republicans, all in Comal Co., TX |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Wasn't that in 2002? |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. It was 2002 ... there were 5 cases of 18,181 votes ... all for Republicans |
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Merrickgds (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. looks to me like an SQL query was run on the database & updated the totals |
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bear425 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. Please send this to Bev Harris |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. That's interesting |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Do you know if Dennis K. is looking into the vote counting in Ohio? |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. I don't know |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Good question because I believe it is his district |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. They are |
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St. Jarvitude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
64. DK is just the kind of person we need to lead us! |
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teevee99 (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:26 PM Original message |
amazing. |
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ramblin_dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
7. Has anyone added up all the votes |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. Peee-eeew! Somethin sure does stink. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. LOL |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. So these "coincidences" depend on 1 in 9948 and 1 in 8553 odds. Hm. |
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Critical Thinker (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
10. very interesting catch |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. That looks quite suspicious |
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bear425 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. Just emailed it to Randi at AAR n/t |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
89. Randi will not let this story die!!` |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. 18181, 18181, 18181, 18181, 18181, 18181, 18181, 18181, 18181, 18181 |
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jmc777 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Are you laughing at ME? |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I hope I'm laughing with you....... |
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batchdem04 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. Check out this spreadsheet |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Then where did this batch of Cuyahoga County's numbers come from? |
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batchdem04 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. looks like she found out |
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shelley806 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. Very fishy...what type of voting (cheating) machines were used?...n/t |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
19. Sounds like a batch program to just add votes here and there |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Deleted message |
txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Welcome to DU |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. LOL, dead issue my ass |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. wiggsvoted, the party DID connect with the people |
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shelley806 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. Can we smell (oops) spell diversion? or ridiculous...your post is... |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. hahahaha |
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. blaming the victim -- the media was virtually ignoring the |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 01:03 AM Response to Reply #48 |
74. SPOT ON |
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 02:20 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. We have to keep hitting our twin message |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. Welcome to DU |
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FighttheFuture (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Part of the bigger strategy, must get popular vote fixed too... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. I don't think it's a program necessarily. |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. Skinner, saw a post at Kos saying it may be absentee ballots |
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batchdem04 (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. **PAGE IS UPDATED** |
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Reynman (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. so this is a false alarm...? |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
52. I've started a new thread with this info. |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. It does seem to have to do with absentee ballots |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Could you explain this to me? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Just going by memory now but the Kos article |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 02:29 AM Response to Reply #44 |
80. It doesn't make any sense |
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Live Free Or Diebold (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. The absentee ballots explanation does not hold water. |
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Logansquare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
85. Your webpage sort of explains it, but |
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shelley806 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
32. I just sent this thread via e-mail to Keith Olbermann. n/t |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Great minds! |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
34. I'm sending this to Keith Olbermann |
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ramblin_dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Can you send him a "never mind"? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. That still doesn't make sense. |
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pk_du (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
41. WOW..........just googled "18181 votes"...check it out |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. I like the Thom Hartmann piece from 2002 I found on this list: |
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ClevelandSportsCurse (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
43. Weslake and Fairview Park are conservative |
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Chili (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. Bedford... |
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Cory (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
54. Absentees |
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shuffnew (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
86. Seems this is fraud beyond reason... |
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DUBYASCREWEDUS (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
55. CUYAHOGA COUNTY ALWAYS VOTES DEMOCRATIC |
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ClevelandSportsCurse (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. It does have its suburban Republican strongholds |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
58. 9948 in hexadecimal... |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
61. It's the turnout numbers that I wonder about. Look here. |
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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. why are we all just talking about the obvious....where in the hell is |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I downloaded the canvas report and I am checking the totals |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #67 |
82. A Letter from Georgia's Congresswoman-Elect |
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kerry2win (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. 40% turnout city of cleveland |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
65. Pepper Pike (Cuyahoga County) |
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Broken Acorn (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Simple SQL Scripting |
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chriscol (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 11:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. SQL scripting |
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Merrickgds (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 01:47 AM Response to Reply #66 |
78. would these databases/.mdbs have any record that they were modified? |
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samjohnson (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #66 |
81. This is the kind of insight needed |
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Mister K (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. It really depends at what level it was modified |
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four more wars (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #65 |
84. An explanation of the results - Mistake not Fraud |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
70. How many registered DEM's versus Registered Repubs in Cuyahoga? |
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MileHiStealth (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
73. Probably a stupid question but .... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Yeah, this is exactly what I'm wondering! |
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MileHiStealth (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 01:17 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Than again, I thought the absentee ballots ... |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 01:38 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. How can the absentee ballots |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 09:24 AM Response to Reply #75 |
88. That's the answer - cover by confusion |
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germtan (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
87. Guyahoga county - no mistakes no fraud |
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Mr Creosote (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. I'm probably being stupid here |
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HEAVYHEART (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
90. Kick |
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