To the Believers

[seito]

I am honored to be among all of you on the eve of this new year. You have inspired me, you have empowered me and you have given me faith that despite the odds, obstacles and naysayers, we will win.

"There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other."
---Douglas Everett

We believe because what we visualize is what we will achieve.

Here's to all you believers :toast:

I pass on this message from IAMREALITY... "To my friends at DU, I miss you and I wish you all a Happy New Year" :party:

[politicasista]

1. Thanks seito

[seito]

6. Keep your chin up politicasista

It will be a very Kerry New Year :-)

I BELIEVE

[autorank]

2. Thanks! Conscious, consistent, intentionality...gets it done!

"I'm a slow walker but I never walk backwards." A. Lincoln

[Joe Chi Minh]

94. Priceless, auto!

Both message and quote.

[autorank]

101. What kind words. Regards to you and the best city in Europe!

[Joe Chi Minh]

188. Thanks!

But it's the truth.

[Pam-Moby]

3. Happy New Year to you seito

I set here day after day feeling a little blue and I get on here and love to read all the DU posts. Then I feel a little better. I do not agree with some, but am able to respect their views. I think in many ways we just have heartfelt feelings of what the country is or should be. Some of us do not want to give up our dreams.

[seito]

9. Thanks to you, friend

Never give up on dreams.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

Dr Seuss

:toast:

[sepia_steel]

4. Thanks!!

Happy new year, everyone!

I BELIEVE!

[seito]

65. Harry New Year sepia_steel

"Anything unattempted remains impossible."
---Unknown

Never stop believing, it will be a great year indeed...for the good guys :)

Sorry Chimp, it's not lookin to good for you. :hi:

[SueZhope]

5. for IAMREALITY

If you are reading this...
I have no idea what happened
I was shocked and sad to see you were no longer here.
Miss ya!!!!:cry:
Happy New Year!!!
:toast:

[New Earth]

8. yes, IAMREALITY, you are very missed.

at times i find myself writing things that i picture you would have written, esp. messages for the freeps followed by the :hi: emoticon. lolll

[seito]

20. IAMREALITY, you are missed

Happy New Year to you and yours :toast:

My friend, may you continue to be sustained as you fight the good fight.

"You've got to fight against the urge to try to say and do what other people want of you. That's not how you earn their respect. They will most respect you for thinking and doing what they didn't think or what they didn't dare."
---Unknown

[Sydnie]

7. Thanks for the pep talk.

"Snowflakes are one of nature's most fragile things, but just look what they can do when they stick together" -- Vesta M. Kelly


Right back at 'cha! :toast:

[seito]

16. No, thank you.

"...and together we are going to change history" John Kerry

Happy New Year :party:

[New Earth]

10. I BELIEVE

and in the words of Jesse Jackson

KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!

[seito]

47. Faye

You ARE an inspiration my friend. Here's to the good fight :toast:

"The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just."
---Abraham Lincoln

Happy New Year :party:

[New Earth]

51. drinking one right now

cheers to that good fight :toast:


haha, at first glance, being drunk, i thoug you said 'food fight'....LMAO

[seito]

57. LMAO

Food Fight



Happy New Year

[New Earth]

64. lolllllllllllll

great emoticon :hi: :hug:

[slay]

11. Here's to my DU pals who fight for truth and equality

Always good to know one is not alone in a fight this important. Cheers! :toast: :party:

[seito]

17. Here Here

:toast:

"We'll see things today we shouldn't have to see, but listen up, we'll do it together. We'll be together, and we'll all come back together."
---anonymous fire lieutenant

[katinmn]

31. I believe :-)

Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it.
Malcolm X (1925 - 1965), Malcolm X Speaks, 1965
------------------------------------------

That was the 60s. If he were around today, I think Malcolm would have said men and women....


Anyhow, that quote sums up how I feel. We can't wait around, we have to take it back.

[Sydnie]

35. How true!

"The only thing necessary for the triumpth of evil is for good men to do nothing." --- Edmund Burke

Happy new year all!

[seito]

41. I love that quote

The enemy is counting on us to do nothing. They will throw up barriors in our way. They will send messengers telling us all is lost.

Believers, DO NOT LISTEN. This is our fight, and we must remain steadfast, no matter what happens.

"Aye, fight and you may die, run and you'll live, at least a while,
and dying in your beds many years from now, would you be
willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance,
just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they
may take our lives, but they'll naever take our Freedom?!" Braveheart


Happy New Year

Here's to the Good Fight :toast:

[MellowOne]

113. I love your post

My feelings exactly....thanks for the inspiration.

[seito]

167. You are most welcome MellowOne

"I am only one; but I am still one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do."
-Helen Keller

I BELIEVE

[ClassWarrior]

12. You too are an inspiration, Warrior Princess.

I am blessed to be fighting at your side.

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.”
- Margaret Mead

“You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one, I hope someday you'll join us and the world will be as one.”
- John Lennon

:hug:

NNNGU.

[seito]

14. My friend

I too am blessed, and proud to be fighting this battle beside you.

I have said before that your wise and inspirational posts have sustained my faith. I thank you and I wish you a wonderful new year.

"Dreams take time, patience, sustained effort, a willingness to fail, if they are ever to be anything more than dreams."
-Bryan Linkoski

:hug:

[seito]

13. Inspiration from a Republican

"The power of one man or one woman doing the right thing for the right reason, and at the right time, is the greatest influence in our society."

Jack Kemp

Remember this: The good guys always win.

Never stop believing.

[corbett]

97. Orange Revolution Begins Today!

Rock on in 2005!

Great message!

The Orange Revolution begins today!

[mordarlar]

15. Happy New Year

:toast:

[seito]

42. Happy New Year to you

"If you believe in your heart that you are right, you must fight with all your might to do it your way."
---Linda Ellerbee

:toast:

[understandinglife]

18. Rock-on Seito; we're going to get the job done on 6 Jan 2005..

...and thereafter. Count on it.


Peace and Happy New Year to you and everyone who reads this comment.
:toast:


"Its 7 Jan 2005: do you know who your president is?"

[seito]

39. I love it :-)

"Its 7 Jan 2005: do you know who your president is?"

What Are They Hiding???

[Lugnut]

19. Happy New Year seito!

Happy New Year DUers!

:toast:

[seito]

40. Happy New Year to you, friend

:toast:

[jsw_81]

21. Define "win"

If you seriously think that John Kerry is going to be sworn in as president then you're setting yourself up for a huge disappointment.

[seito]

22. Winning is never giving up

My friend, I assure you that I will never be disappointed, at least not for long.

"If we listened to our intellect, we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go into business, because we'd be cynical. Well, that's nonsense. You've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down."
---Ray Bradbury

Happy New Year :cheers:

[lavendermist]

24. I like that quote a lot...

Happy New Year and may all our dreams for this next one come true.

:toast:

[New Earth]

25. fine with me

it's the journey of hope that matters in life :hi:

[bear425]

23. Happy New Year Fellow Believers!

:toast: :party:

[seito]

43. Happy New Year bear425

"If I were asked to give what I consider the most useful bit of advice for all humanity it would be this: Expect trouble as an inevitable part of life and when it comes, hold your head high, look it squarely in the eye and say, 'I will be bigger than you. You cannot defeat me.'"
---Ann Landers

:toast:

[IndyPriest]

26. Hey, is this another Doohickie thread?! :-) A toast to us all!

[seito]

30. Never :-)

This was just a New Years toast to the believers.

You all rock :toast:

[bleever]

27. Happy New Year, seito!!

Hey, I finished writing a nice Dylanesque song with your "Oh Katherine" lyrics. I'll post the words for you soon as I'm not getting pressured to get off the computer.

And if I can get this folksinger I know to record it, I'll get it uploaded.

Best wishes for the Happiest of New Years!

:toast:

[seito]

32. Awesome

Happy New Year Bleever :party:

:toast:

[ClassWarrior]

78. Happy New Year to my creepy kid brother...

I'm just givin' you the business, bleev.

:toast:

NNNGU.

[New Earth]

80. you two are brothers?

aww!

[ClassWarrior]

95. Yeah, and our folks are named Ward and June.

Happy New Year, Faye.

NGU.

[New Earth]

98. Happy New Year to you too

and to your little brother. you are both some strong, positive people!!! it must run in the family or something...

[bleever]

116. Just to make sure we aren't laughing without you, Faye,

these are references to the old TV show "Leave it to Beaver", which if you've never seen it was a classic family sitcom that was funny and almost "hip", although "hip" wasn't used that way back then.

CW and I aren't related by DNA, but like so many of us here, we share the kinship of NGU.

Happy New Year, Faye!

:toast:

[New Earth]

118. LOL dammit

#*^*@^#(@^#*&@^$&*^&*(#&^*(&#^@&*^@#(^#&*(

did i ever mention that i'm a blonde? :hi:

[bleever]

90. "Gee Wally, I guess if I gotta have a big brother to boss me around

and stuff, I'm glad it's you.

And Wally: how come Eddie Haskell calls me 'Squirt'?"


Happy New Year!

:toast:

[ClassWarrior]

96. "Eddie's got issues, bleev."

:7

NGU.

[bleever]

100. ROFLMAO!

[starmaker]

28. happy new year to all

thanks for all the reading material

i'm an unknown to most of u
been a hermit in mts of nc for too long

i will wear an orange hat on epiphany in dc
and gonna walk 25 miles to get there

[seito]

36. That is Awesome!

Thank you for your post and your efforts.

Happy New Year starmaker. :toast:

[bleever]

60. I'll think about you while you're walking...

:thumbsup:

[Sydnie]

68. Welcome to DU and Happy New Year to you too!

Hope your walk is filled with joyful, determined steps!

[fooj]

29. We must BELIEVE in something or we BELIEVE in nothing!!!

Happiest of New Years to you, Seito!! One of my favorites:

"In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer."-Albert Camus

Everyone here at DU shares a common goal...to protect and defend our Constitution and to fight for the integrity of our democracy! Although we've experienced some gut-wrenching "lows"...our faith, determination and constant search for justice has taken me, personally, to a level of intensity I have never known. For this I am eternally grateful! Your positive energy is contagious! Ours is a journey of great consequence and I believe that only good can come from our efforts. Thanks for the wise input and helping to keep our vision moving forward!!

YOU ARE ONLY FREE IF I AM FREE!!! :)

WHAT ARE THEY HIDING???:think:

[flyarm]

33. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL YOU DEAR PATRIOTS!!

MY FAVORITE QUOTE TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL FOR THE NEW YEAR!! PLEASE NEVER STOP THE FIGHT FOR OUR VALUES AND TRUTH..YOU ARE ALL HEROS TO OUR NATION!

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
-- Margaret Mead

HAPPY NEW YEAR...

AND GOD BLESS OUR PRECIOUS NATION!!!

A SPECIAL PRAYER TO MY 9/11 LOST COMRADES AND THEIR FAMILES..YOU ARE MISSED FOREVER...

AND MANY PRAYERS TO THOSE WHO SUFFER TODAY FROM THE TSUNAMI..MY HEART ACHES FOR YOU ALL...

[seito]

38. I love that quote

And I love your heart felt posts flyarm.

Indeed, God Bless this nation, and God bless all those that have suffered and continue to suffer around the world.

[seito]

34. Happy New Year fooj

You are a true believer and an inspiration. Your students are very lucky.

Kerry on my friend and Happy New Year :cheers:

[pacalo]

37. Here's to all the believers...

Notice the orange flowers around the martini glass...

[seito]

168. Here's to you 8-year-nightmare

:toast:

May we always care enough to BELIEVE

"Science may have found a cure for most evils; but it has found no remedy for the worst of them all - the apathy of human beings."
- Helen Keller

[suffragette]

44. Happy New Year

Still new here and so glad I found this place.

"The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt

I believe.

[seito]

45. Hi suffragette

Welcome to DU :hi:

and Happy New Year :party:

"A true hero does what needs to be done and needs no other reason."
---Unknown

I BELIEVE

[suffragette]

46. Hi Seito

I love your posts. They help renew my hope.

[seito]

49. Thank you suffragette

That means a lot to me. I believe that we must sustain each other. I know that we are fighting a just cause. I know that we will win, if we remain steadfast and united.

Never stop believing.


"If you want to accomplish anything in life, you can't just sit back and hope it will happen. You've got to make it happen."
---Chuck Norris

[merh]

48. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2005 the year of democracy

To all the believers and DU Patriots :yourock:



Keep up the good fight! Fight on!!!!! AND NEVER, EVER GIVE UP!!!

Love you all :loveya: :grouphug:

DU BELIEVE? HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!! :hug:

[seito]

52. Hiya Mehr

:hi: Kerry on my friend



"The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
---Joseph Addison

Here's to happiness, love, hope and the good fight :cheers:

I BELIEVE

:grouphug:

[merh]

58. Kerry on indeed!

And of course, Happy New Year to KO! :loveya:

DU Believe? DAMNED RIGHT I DU!

May you have a wonderful New Year - keep up the good fight seito! I raise by glass to you :toast: and wish you all the best! :beer:

[seito]

63. Cheers

:toast:

[saracat]

50. Thank You Seito!

What a beautiful quote! And may all our dreams turn to reality!
A Very Happy 2005 to Everyone!
Saracat

[seito]

53. Happy New Year Saracrat

Thank you for all that you do. :hug:

Here is a quote for you, fellow Kerrycrat

"Risk more than others think is safe. Care more than others think is wise. Dream more than others think is practical. Expect more than others think is possible."
---Cadet maxim, West Point, New York

Never Stop Believing :toast:

[txindy]

54. Terrific ending

Thank you, seito. This is a great way to end 2004 and help kick off the new year.

I believe that 2005 is John Kerry's year, I really do. I also believe we're going to have fun (in a rollercoaster fashion, alternating between an adrenalin rush and nausea) watching this year not be Junior's year. :evilgrin:

Happy New Year!

[Sydnie]

59. Another great Ghandi quote for you

"Non-cooperation with evil is as much a duty as is cooperation with good." -- Mahatma Ghandi

Happy Orange New Year!

edited because cooprtation and cooperation are different!

[bear425]

67. Thank you for the Ghandi quote!

As you can see, I think, my sig line is a quote from Ghandi:

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Ghandi

We, fellow Du'ers are the change! Stay focused and we will see our efforts come to fruition.

Happy New Year! :party: Wow, I typed this whole thing after a lot of champagne...

[Sydnie]

69. You're welcome.

Thanks for sharing that one with me too!

[txindy]

70. Here's another for you

Okay, two. :)

"To forgive and accept injustice is cowardice."

"What a man thinks, he becomes. A man is but the product of his thoughts; what he thinks, he becomes."

I believe that Gandhi was a very wise man.

[seito]

61. Here's to 2005

May we keep our sense of humor

"Most of the important things in the world have been achieved by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all."
---Dale Carnegie

In the immortal word of William Rivers Pitt "It is a great time to be alive"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=206508


Happy New Year

[txindy]

73. Humor?

Never heard of it.

Since we're seeing in 2005 with our favorite quotes:

"Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground." Author unknown


I'm all for reforestation in 2005. How 'bout you?

[seito]

75. I'm lovin it

What Are They Hiding?

[Joe Chi Minh]

110. Hilarious,

but nae doot true, txindy. There's more than an elelment of that in J Kerry Esq, isn't there.

[bleever]

62. And Happiest of New Years to you, txindy,

with gratitude.

2005 will definitely be better for some of us than others!

:toast:

[txindy]

74. Wishing you the same, bleever

The Happiest of New Years! :toast:

[ClassWarrior]

79. Happy New Year tx!! Tejas rocks!

:toast:

NNNGU.

[txindy]

99. Happy New Year, CW! And to celebrate...

[ClassWarrior]

102. Coooool! Thanx for the New Year's smiley, txxx!!

:yourock:

Never Never NEVER Give Up!!

[IndyPriest]

55. Hey, I just learned how to "do" smileys! So I want to say to you all

:yourock:

[politicasista]

56. Happy New Year DU peeps!!

:party: :bounce:

"I still believe in a place called Hope."--Bill Clinton

"Keep Hope Alive"--Jesse Jackson

[seito]

77. It is so nice to see you smile politicasista

Here's to lots more smiles in 2005. :toast:

Happy New Year :party:

[seito]

66. Right back atcha IndyPriest

:yourock:

"If we wait to foil a bank robbery or rescue someone tied on the railroad tracks we will never be a hero. We probably won't even come across a cat stuck in a tree. As long as we sit at the bus stop waiting for our great moment we will miss our real chance at the heroic: the infinite number of tiny daily acts inspired by the great. Our actions may seem insignificant, but their results will grow and multiply."
---Timberland boots

May each of our small daily acts grow and multiply. :toast:

[New Earth]

71. not sure if i posted this pic in this thread

too drunk to see.... but

[seito]

72. Faye, you can post that pic as many times as you like

:loveya:

Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly."
-Robert F. Kennedy

I BELIEVE

[starmaker]

76. kkiicckkk

[Patsy Stone]

81. HAPPY NEW YEAR, Ladies and Germs!

Fight the Power!

:toast:

[ClassWarrior]

187. HNY Pats...

:toast:

Fight the power that be...

NGU.

[texpatriot2004]

82. Hope is reality waiting to happen! Goodbye 2004, Hello 2005

Hi Seito

:hi:

Happy New Year!

[seito]

84. Hi Tex,

:hi: I have missed seeing you.

Happy New Year to You !

:toast:

I BELIEVE

[Patsy Stone]

83. No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. -- ER

Hope

Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune--without the words,
And never stops at all,

And sweetest in the gale is heard;
And sore must be the storm
That could abash the little bird
That kept so many warm.

I've heard it in the chillest land,
And on the strangest sea;
Yet, never, in extremity,
It asked a crumb of me.
-- Emily Dickinson

"How wrong Emily Dickinson was! Hope is not the 'thing with feathers.' The thing with feathers has turned out be my nephew. I must take him to a specialist in Zurich."
-- Woody Allen

I will continue to believe and never lose my faith. Even if no one stands on January 6, I will continue to work towards "regime change" at home.

[seito]

85. Hi Patsy

My belief, faith and hope is not tied to any person or group of people. It is not tied to any specific date or event.

I Believe and I will continue to believe through the ups and downs of this bitter battle in which we are engaged. I know that we will win, I can feel it, I can see it and I can taste it :9

It is 2005 and I still Believe, the alternative is simply not acceptable.

Love ya Pats. :hug:

[Patsy Stone]

88. Never Give Up

That is my plan.

:hug:

[seito]

93. Where have I heard that before???

NNNNNNNGU

I like it. Notice my new sig. :)

[Miami Liberal]

86. Happy New Year to you Seito

Never give up.

:toast:

[seito]

89. Happy New Year to you Miami Liberal

Here to a miserable 2005 for * and all evil doers


What Are They Hiding

[keepthemhonest]

87. hey Seito

Happy New Year to you and thanks for showing me the smilies.
Great thread and your posts are very inspirational keep up the good work.


TXINDY I love this one you showed us , is it ever true in this case. WOW
"Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground." Author unknown

[seito]

92. Happy New Year to you keepthemhonest

I find your posts just as inspirational. I hope that some of that TIA believing power can restore another comrade, IAMREALITY. I am glad that you are now armed with a plethera of smilies.

Keep the Faith and Never Stop Believing.

:toast:

[KC21304]

91. Happy New Year Seito and all believers.

Thanks for all the inspiring quotes. They help immensely. It's great to see so many new wonderful people on DU.

[seito]

107. Happy New Year KC21304

Here is a special quote, just for you.
"I learned this, at least, by my experiment: that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he had imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours."

- Henry David Thoreau

Happy New Year :toast:

[Not a Sheep]

103. What exactly are you referring to ?????????? (more)

"....you have given me faith that despite the odds, obstacles and naysayers, we will win."

What are we going to win?

[ClassWarrior]

104. IT ALL. n/t

NGU.

[seito]

106. Couldn't have said it better myself

NNNNNGU

[Not a Sheep]

109. Doesn't "exactly" answer my question. /eom

[keepthemhonest]

114. hey

sheepish every time you post you really inspire me to send out another fax to all the senators. so keep on inspiring me.

[Name removed]

120. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[txindy]

122. Since this thread is specifically titled for "The Believers"

I believe you're treading in places you may not care for very much. This is for New Year's wishes for the believers. Many, many other threads available to keep you entertained and far from sad. :hi:

[New Earth]

123. lol w00t again

:toast: :hi:

[keepthemhonest]

131. I am not the one being close minded here

You are the one who is not willing to bend.If you have not noticed I am willing to communicate with you and that is proof enough.

[New Earth]

105. THE EFFIN' LOTTERY

the powerball, twice in a row :hi:

[Not a Sheep]

108. You're trying to say Kerry is going to win and Bush it out? /eom

[keepthemhonest]

111. yes sheepy

we are saying that kerry will win and Bush is out.bush committed a crime and he soon will be punished along with the others who helped him commit the acts.


Let me guess you voted for Bush and were you not pleasantly surprised on Nov 3 when you woke up to find Bush had won. I know Bush croney Prime Minister Tony Blair said he thought when he went to bed that Kerry had won, but was surprised ( along with the rest of the world who did not know about the cheating) that Bush had "won."



Sheepish- Kerry won get over it!

[New Earth]

112. w00t

:hi:

[Not a Sheep]

115. You're very wrong. I voted for Kerry and....

........stayed up all night/morning watching the election coverage and was sickened by the results. However, I haven't fooled myself into thinking Kerry is somehow going to take office.

I'd really love to hear exactly how you beleive that this is going to happen. Please give me a play by play of how this will unfold over the next week and enable Kerry to take office.

Or are you just wishing it to happen so much that you don't think about it realistically?

[txindy]

121. Lots of threads covering just these scenarios

Discover. We're not going to waste DU bandwidth by reproducing all of the abundantly available documentation here.

Welcome to DU. Welcome to the world of possibilities.

[Not a Sheep]

124. Maybe you don't understand bandwidth..............

Answering my post or copying a link to another post that explains what you're talking about has no affect on DU's bandwidth. I assume you were mistaken and not just trying to avoid answering my question.

I'm simply trying to understand how Kerry is going to take office. I don't see how it can happen. But if everyone is so sure about this happening and there are ways for it to happen, please explain how I'm wrong and maybe I'll change my mind.

[New Earth]

126. no one knows for sure

it's called possibility + hope + justice = Kerry takes office.

we are actually at a kind of 'uncertain' stage right now, because we still need to hear from the U.S. Circuit Court where Kerry/Cobb filed the motion/lawsuit to secure machines and ballots, etc to inspect for tampering. There are so many fronts going on right now that are not complete so it is really hard to tell which one, if any, are going to have an effect.

[txindy]

127. Find the threads. Your posts are far off-topic .

Which makes you mistaken.

We will not repeat what is readily available in other threads. To paraphrase Jon Stewart, "We're not your monkeys."

Welcome to Du. Now, go forth and explore the threads available that people have worked on very hard to answer questions such as yours. :hi:

[keepthemhonest]

125. Ok good you voted for Kerry that is a start then.

Plan A
Step one - we all write,fax call senators and urge them to contest the electoral vote.Have you done this yet? That is Ok I have sent enough for me and about 250 other people.

step two -have congress contest the vote- we have been putting alot of pressure on the senators and some admitted that in 2000 the only reason they did not contest the electionwas because nobody asked them to. That is not an issue this time around.

step three-Someone else takes office until they can prove the legitimacy of the election.

step four They are already piling up eveidence of fraud and voter suppression has been documented
Exibit 1 exit polls ( if you don't get that ,your simply not good at math.)
exibit 2 Tampering with electronic voting machines

exibit 3 Voter suppression seen on tape and heavily documented.

Exibit 4 Scientific study (non biased) done on election day as people exited and asked them questions about their voting experience and problems encountered.

step five Bush will be impeached and possibly go to jail

step 6 Kerry gets the position that he won, Presidency of the United States

Plan B(woops wrong) do nothing and nothing will happen

[Not a Sheep]

128. Thanks for the details but.................

...........I don't see how step three is possible, "Someone else takes office until they can prove the legitimacy of the election."

What laws are you relying on for that?


------------------------------------


Anyway, my Senators are Spector and Santorum (I'm in PA). I live on the border of Cumberland (voted 64% for Bush) and Franklin Counties (voted 72% for Bush). That's one reason I'm on this forum. I'm surrounded by Republicans.

[New Earth]

129. i understand your curiousity but you could you PLEASE

take this to another thread such as this one http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x220226 for example? this thread is about Believers on New Year's Eve greeting eachother. You are going wayyyyyy off topic.

[Name removed]

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[Sydnie]

134. Thread of inspiration through quotes it appears to me

shouldn't get side tracked with questions that can be answered elsewhere.

My quote for this post is from a movie "As Good As It Gets" --

"Peddle crazy somewhere else. We're all full up here." -- Jack Nicholson as Melvin Udall

I STILL believe!

[Not a Sheep]

137. That makes no sense.........

So the first post stated we were going "to win" and I ask what the poster was saying we were going to win and you are saying that I sidetracked the thread by asking the question and should have gone elsewhere for the answer?

Sorry, I don't see how that makes any sense.

[seito]

139. Here ya go Not a Sheep

A special quote for you

"Where there is no vision, the people perish."
King Solomon , Proverbs 29:18

I have posted your answer below.

Happy New Year, Friend. Here's to winning in 2005 :toast:

[Sydnie]

141. It's simple

Dreams are just dreams
When they're stuck inside your head
And all it takes is a little help from you
You know it's true
That dreams are for real
When you see what I see
And you feel it too
We took the longest road
Just to make it harder
Let's do it all again
It only makes us stronger


Dreams
I guess we're just made of dream
Nothin' else matters
As long as we believe
I'm lookin' at you
And I see my life
Passing before my eyes
And when the journey's over
And all my dreams come true
I'll dream of you

What do you see
When you look inside your heart
A little thought
Can walk a thousand miles
And change your life
When dreams lead the way
The impossible is suddenly in sight
Every step you take
Just brings it all together
You gotta keep the faith
When all seems lost forever



You're the one
That keeps my hope alive
My vision clear
I'll spend my life with you
Conquer fear
We'll make it through

Nothin' else matters
As long as we believe
I'm lookin' at you
And I see my life
Passing before my eyes
And when the journey's over
And all my dreams come true
I'll dream of you

[seito]

135. Can I take a stab at answering your question...

We Believe that battles are never won without visualizing the victory. This thread is dedicated to all those that keep the vision alive.

So, your question, "What do we expect to win?"

Class warrior answered "It All" To me, that is the perfect answer. We visualize the ultimate downfall of the Bush Family Evil Empire. We visualize our question "What Are They Hiding?" answered live on Faux News as poor little Katherine sits before the Grand Jury. We visualize an end to corporate controlled media and a re-birth of free and independent media. We visualize a movement of ordinary Americans, united in one common goal. We will not stand down until we win.

"The win" is not about one man, or one event, or one date. "The win" is what we will achieve when we commit to never giving up. This thread is dedicated to those believers that have embraced winning and have committed to never giving up the fight.

That is all, Kerry on :)

[Patsy Stone]

170. That was beautiful... n/t

[keepthemhonest]

132. sheeply

you are going to have to go find those things for yourself.i cannot teach you everything.Read and you will find it.I am not going to assist you in making this a negativity(not realism.)




HAPPY New Year EVERYONE. Thanks for all your hard work.

I believe

[Not a Sheep]

133. I searched.... (more)

"Someone else takes office until they can prove the legitimacy of the election."

I searched for something to support your statement and found nothing. Could it be that you simply made it up yourself and didn't base it on anything (you know, anything grounded in "realism" like you stated above)?

Don't get me wrong, you weren't intenionally being malicious. Maybe it's just wishful thinking.

Thanks anyway.

[Not a Sheep]

138. It appears you were wrong keepthemhonest..........

keepthemhonest: "you are going to have to go find those things for yourself. I cannot teach you everything."



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=220507&mesg_id=220507

[Name removed]

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[Not a Sheep]

144. You were wrong. And namecalling is just more childishness....(more)

I asked you how your step three was possible, "Someone else takes office until they can prove the legitimacy of the election."

I asked what laws you were relying on. You told me "you couldn't teach me everything" and to find it myself.

I asked others in the thread I posted and they confirmed that you're wrong. There is no justification for your "step 3".

Posting the line of succession to the presidency has nothing to do with it.

You were wrong. Suck it up.

[ClassWarrior]

145. Who's the enemy, Sheep?

Tell me that. Who's the enemy? keepthemhonest? Or George W. Bush**??

NGU.

[Name removed]

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[New Earth]

149. ok, to answer your question plain and simple

what are we going to win?

OUR DEMOCRACY BACK. OUR COUNTRY BACK. WHEN? SOON, OR EVEN SOONER. DAYS, MONTHS, WEEKS, YEARS, WE DON'T KNOW 100% BUT WE BELIEVE IT WILL BE SOON, FAITH SO STRONG THAT IT COULD BE DAYS.

the problem is, you might disagree. but that is the point of belief, that is the point of faith, it is based on positivity, hope, justice, and patience.

I don't know what else to say that will satisfy you. And if that doesn't satisfy you, then I'm afraid you won't find the answer you are looking for, and there is nothing further I can do for you.

[Not a Sheep]

151. Well, that's better than your first answer to my question which was....

... "THE EFFIN' LOTTERY".

"I don't know what else to say that will satisfy you. And if that doesn't satisfy you, then I'm afraid you won't find the answer you are looking for, and there is nothing further I can do for you."

Why are you acting as though I'm being so hard to satisfy? I initally asked a simple question and was treated like sh*t for it. I simply asked EXACTLY what the poster was referring to in saying we were going to WIN and people became hostile smart as*es, called me names, told me I hijacked the thread, etc, etc.

And you know what else? Other's have given different answers from you as to what "we are going to win". It seems that each person read something different into it and started agreeing with each other without knowing exactly what they were agreeing about. You say it meant we are going to win our democracy and country back, someone else said it specifically meant Kerry is going to become president.

[New Earth]

153. the problem is that the thread was dedicated to 'the believers'

and the 'believers' are those who frequently post in the 'I Believe' thread, which is why most here thought what was to be 'won' was simply 'understood'.

I am personally finished exchanging posts with you. Have fun!

[Joe Chi Minh]

117. Don't worry,

Oneofthegoats. *You're* not going to (win).

[Joe Chi Minh]

119. Dup.

[bleever]

136. I believe it was txindy who was just pointing out that we can be

grateful when our threads are lifted on the wings of others.

BTW, I'd pay good money to see that picture of the flying monkeys against the moon with the F*X News logo superimposed!

:toast:

[seito]

140. I'd chip into that fund... ;-)

"What I do you cannot do; but what you do, I cannot do. The needs are great, and none of us, including me, ever do great things. But we can all do small things, with great love, and together we can do something wonderful. "

- Mother Teresa

To the Believers, may we each do our small part. :toast:

[ClassWarrior]

146. (saving to my quote file)

Beautiful, Warrior Princess.

NGU.

[keepthemhonest]

147. Thanks class warrior

for above post and redirecting, hopefully anyway.


:shrug:

[mbee]

142. Believe in a great surprise to happen on or about the 6th. Democracy

must win out over the evil we have experienced over the past four years.

[floridadem30]

150. Happy new year to you and let IAMREALITY know we miss him too.

[keepthemhonest]

152. Yes I love

it when freeps kick our beautiful positive threads.Thanks to all freepers not mentioning any names though(hint: wool sweaters)

[New Earth]

154. hey man, wool sweaters

CAN be unraveled :hi:

[keepthemhonest]

155. sure can!

I just read a post that said this investigation is shifting from

"what are they hiding " to "how long can they hide it"

so can't remember where I saw it ,but it is a good point.

Thanks Faye for all your positive posts and keeping disruptors at bay.

:toast:

[New Earth]

156. thank you

"it's hard work" :crazy:

[seito]

160. It is in the "I BELIEVE" thread

I believe the author was our very own Bleev Cleaver

[seito]

159. I think that IAMREALITY knows this

But I will be sure to pass the message along.

Happy New Year floridadem30 :party:

"Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

So here's some enthusiasm :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: I BELIEVE

[mzmolly]

157. Happy New Year Seito.

:toast:

[seito]

161. Right back atcha mzmolly

I love your posts. You are always an inspiration.

For you, one of my favorites...

To laugh often and love much; to win the respect of intelligent persons and the affection of children, to earn the approbation of honest critics; to appreciate beauty; to give of one's self, to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived--that is to have succeeded.

- Ralph Waldo Emerson

We will succeed BECAUSE we believe

:toast:

[mzmolly]

162. Oh my.

:cry: If only I were as eloquent as you I would find words to reciprocate your most sweet reply.

An aside, I did a quick bio on Ralph Waldo Emerson when I was 10 years old, and learned that he and I shared the same birthday.

Your words are so touching, Thank YOU.

*snif*

[IndyPriest]

158. Just had to stop back here for a breath of

fresh air. AHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh........

[seito]

163. Indypriest, If you stop by, you get a prize

Here ya go

"Whatever course you decide upon, there is always someone to tell you that you are wrong. There are always difficulties arising which tempt you to believe that your critics are right. To map out a course of action and follow it to an end requires...courage."

-Ralph Waldo Emerson

I BELIEVE

[IndyPriest]

165. Oooo, I may get that sucker framed!

:toast:

What's your best source of great quotes?

[seito]

173. I like this site

http://www.motivationalquotes.com/

You can also google motivational quotes.

I BELIEVE

[IndyPriest]

179. You're a treasure. Thanx!

:headbang:

[Lena]

164. I believe, too..

Haven't posted much but I believe. We believe because what we visualize is what we will achieve.

Here's to all you believers.

Thanks and a good new year to you and all.

Lena

[seito]

169. Thank you for your post Lena

:hi: Welcome to DU

Here's to You :) :toast:

"You can do very little with faith, but you can do nothing without it."
-Samuel Butler

Here's to the Believers whose faith and efforts will bring to pass great things :toast:

[Patsy Stone]

166. Have people been having words?

Lots of deleted posts here, huh?

I believe more people should let people believe. Go on believers!

[seito]

171. Things that make you go hmmmm.

Why on earth would anyone have a problem with believin?

Wait...could it be...

[Patsy Stone]

172. LOL!

So many of 'em and so few buckets of water...

[txindy]

177. What we believe frightens them

I wonder why? It's what all of us here wanted to happen on Election day, anyway, right? But, as long as they keep kickin' our threads, it's all good.

[nofurylike]

174. beautiful. inspirational message and thread. gratitude, all. n/t

[seito]

175. Thank you nofurylike

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly."
-Albert Einstein

I BELIEVE

[nofurylike]

176. mmh! thank YOU, seito.

i keep seeing you bring such great gifts to all here.

please keep on your heroic work

everyone


I BELIEVE

[sparky_in_ma]

178. Thanks seito

Inspiring words as always.:toast:

[seito]

180. Here's to you Sparky

:toast: You are one of my favorite believers

Think "impossible" and dreams get discarded, projects get abandoned , and hope for wellness is torpedoed. But let someone yell the words "It's possible," and resources we hadn't been aware of come rushing in to assist us in our quest. I believe we are all potentially brilliant and creative--but only if we believe it, only if we have an attitude of positive expectancy toward our ideas, and only if we act on them.
-Greg Anderson

I BELIEVE

[sparky_in_ma]

181. Awww...

Thanks. People like you, Faye, ClassWarrior,Doohickie, and many others here at DU, make a difference each day. If the rest of the country had the moral values found here,the world would be a much better place.:toast:

[marions ghost]

182. 2004 was the Green Monkey Year

Monkey is in the Metal group. So 2004 was a Metal year. 2005 is the Green Chicken (rooster)year. Chicken is in the Metal group, too. So 2005 is a Metal year again. This means 2005 is the continuation of previous Metal cycle. Most of people should have about the same luck in 2005 as in 2004. If you have unfinished business in 2004, then you need to continue to deal with it during 2005.
---------
(Monkey Business in 04 followed by proud strutting Green Roosters in 05?)

We have some unfinished business this year. :toast:

[bunny planet]

183. Hi Believers.

I've been gone all day for a New Year's party. Had lots of fun but there
were some Republicans there and they got me down. Not that I would discuss any of my beliefs with them, it just wasn't the time. One of them actually said, I kid you not, 'that Kerry did not deserve to win because of his chin, anybody with a chin like that should not be the President'

WTF, it was my friend's new house and her first party in her new neighb. so I could not get froggy with this person like I wanted to.....


However, I am so happy to be back to talk to my fellow believers. I need a fix of 'I believe' 2005 style.

I believe. I am so grateful to have a place to come to, to shut out all the noise and negativity from people who don't understand why or how strongly I believe.

We can make this happen. I believe we will.

'In a democratic society some are guilty, but all are responsible.'

I forget who said that, a famous rabbi I think. If we do not fight for our democracy who will be ultimately responsible if we lose it.

I believe we can get it back. We must save our country from tyranny.

I believe it will be a very Happy New Year!!!1

[seito]

185. Bunny, I hope this lifts your spirits...

No pessimist ever discovered the secrets of the stars, or sailed to an uncharted land, or opened a new heaven to the human spirit.
- Helen Keller




I BELIEVE, and no matter what happens Jan 6th I will STILL BELIEVE

Here's to the Believers :toast:

[bunny planet]

186. Thank you Seito, it does!!!!!!!

[New Earth]

184. TO THE BELIEVERS

DO NOT GIVE UP. do not even reply to the threads that are here telling us to not get our hopes up. This hope cannot die.

[keepthemhonest]

189. Faye

I tried ignoring the threads but "wool sweaters" was hounding TIA so I had to step in. I will do my best to ignoreand not raise up their naysaying threads.


Itttt's so damn hard.
:spank:

[New Earth]

190. yes, trying to keep our mouths shut....

"it's hard work"

[keepthemhonest]

191. true true

Have a great day!

:pals:

[seito]

194. Just be careful, keepthemhonest...

That is all I was trying to say in the other thread. There are some here that will bait you into a confrontation, then "alert" on your posts. They will walk a fine line, just inside the rules, hoping that you might engage in a personal attack. I have seen good people get the boot because they took that bait.

Why would anyone want to dampen our optimism and resolve? Hmmmm...

What Are They Hiding? Who Are They Protecting?

I Believe

[bleever]

192. LOL! And Faye, that is no

EX-AG-GER-A-TION!

What are they hiding?

How long can they hide it?

I believe.

NGU.


:thumbsup:

[seito]

193. I Believe

On edit: Oops.